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marclaporteAbout activity level: Since early 2011 (For Tiki7), we have been on a very ambitious phase of development and revamps. The code base has been modernized in many places and we made several important/structural changes for the long-term. ex.: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle and of course, a large number of new features.
For example, one of the most advanced and important features in Tiki is called Trackers: http://doc.tiki.org/Trackers
They were revamped in Tiki7 and Tiki8 and it took a lot of energy
And in Tiki9 and Tiki10, it's paying off as development is now easier
A lot of the features have reached the good-enough stage so there is no longer any work on them
and since Tiki is the http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features, we are running out of completely new features to add
I feel that it will more & more be about refining features and increasing integration of existing features
So, the software side is going well, but we are lagging on the Dogfood side
We have features in Tiki that we would need for the Tiki community and we aren't yet using them
Ultimately, this is what I'd like to see: http://tiki.org/Evolution+of+participation 		[00:01]
manmi: I don't see anything at http://test.glassdoc.org/
what is project about? 		[00:13]
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back to activity level: Tiki is not only the http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features but no other major CMS / Web app has released more major versions in the last 4 years
2009-05: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki3 LTS
2009-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki4
2010-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki5
2010-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki6 LTS
2011-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki7
2011-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki8
2012-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki9 LTS
2012-12: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki10 (just before the holidays)
To be fair, WordPress also had 8 major releases during the same approximative time frame http://wordpress.org/about/roadmap/ 		[00:33]
Some apps like Typo3 and Joomla! have now moved to a 6-month release cycle, but we have been doing for a longer period. But in all these cases, with their extension-based model, not all features are ready at the same time. And sometimes, extensions are never ported to the next version. Thanks to the Tiki model, we have inherent synchronized releases http://tiki.org/Model#Inherent_synchronized_releases [00:42]
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DrDubDrDub founds this explanation most informative :)
marclaporte: I'm calling it a scotch night, I'll be at 22hs at Ile Noir (in St. Denis) if you care to join... 		[01:11]
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marclaporteDrDub: great! I'll be there [01:51]
I think some are OK with a slow (2-3 years cycle) because of the focus on building nice looking public websites (with lots of work on design but with quite basic functionality), and it's more normal to upgrade / change the look of your web site every few years. And we have extended our LTS period to make it better for this type of project, with 3.5 years of support for an LTS version: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle [01:59]
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Tiki issues I have all seem to be OS related -- after having to do a fresh co on Ubuntu box (because of Subversion upgrade to 1.7), my initial 'blank page' problems over there were caused by Zend closing connection during checkout ...
this was overcome by running svn uo on my lib/core/Zend folders individually
* ^ svn up
for the Ubuntu box, I now have individual checkouts for each Tiki branch I'm using due to the way Subversion 1.7 saves checkouts
Windon't continues to have problems with the look as well as with data apparently missing in Tiki ... I will continue to debug this today 		[02:48]
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manmimarclaporte: Well, you see there a basic installation, do you? Apart from that I barely installed it and figure out what I need and what not.
Once it's set up properly it will be moved from the subdomain to glassdoc.org 		[11:48]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44506 10trunk/lib/core/Services/Tracker/Controller.php
tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Missing var in function for export 		[15:50]
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44507 10trunk/lib/core/Services/Tracker/Controller.php
tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Pass item info to get_field_handler in export so data gets populated properly (required for ItemsList fields fix to come, but may fix other export problems)
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44508 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ItemsList.php
tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Export ItemsList fields (thanks Xavi) 		[16:02]
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polom
manmi: yesterday, you mentioned bug reports and patches. If you feel sure about your patch, just please commit 		[17:28]
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manmi:-) I will once I'm familiar enough with tiki. [17:48]
marclaporte:-) [17:49]
manmiFor now I'm really just trying to figure out what I need and what I don't want for that site I'm setting up
I don't really have more than 30 to 60 minutes per day for that but thanks for the encouragement 		[17:49]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03marclaporte r44509 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
tikiwiki Better French translations 		[17:56]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03marclaporte r44510 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
tikiwiki Some translations to French for maps 		[18:18]
tikiwiki 03marclaporte r44511 10branches/10.x/lang/fr/language.php
tikiwiki [bp/r44510] Some translations to French for maps 		[18:24]
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polom… can't update anymore my tiki10 using svn… "svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly" i had that once deleted the file where it stopped and it could complete… not this time. I'm alone in that case ? 		[18:50]
marclaportetry asking in #sourceforge [19:03]
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hi, is it possible to extend task funcionality to include more options like status, context, project? like a gtd software? or it must be done throught a tracker 		[20:16]
I'm looking at tracker and there's one item about gtd. And after looking tracker it seems it can be done trhough a tracker, but I have no ideia how [20:33]
marclaportepedor: trackers is better if you need it to be extendable [20:44]
pedornice
I'm testing and it's quite easy to do a very, very simple, gtd system 		[20:54]
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marclaporteSuper! [21:16]
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pedor: it would make a nice profile: http://profiles.tiki.org [21:47]
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hi 		[21:47]
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pedormarclaporte: ok. [22:09]
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