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another week, another polom
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44902 10trunk/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl
tikiwiki [MOD] elFinder: Make elfinder a replacement for browse mode for now - makes it easier to get to existing tiki function, but i suspect "finder" should be an additional new view mode eventually.
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How do allow users to book and appointment from a wiki page?
jonnyb: hi ricardon
ricardon: hi
jonnyb: usually that's done with a "tracker"
ricardon: finding myself not getting anywhere with the docs
jonnyb: http://doc.tiki.org/Trackers
you're not the first!
ricardon: I see the need for a tracker and the calendar but i don not understand how to integrate the two
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44903 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js
tikiwiki [FIX] cluetips: Stop cluetips ending up with zero width for filegal image thumbnails, and fix to an arbitrary min width - should be converted to native cluetips in the smarty popup object
fabricius: polom
jonnyb: the easiest place to start would be with a profile - it will build a tracker for you
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jonnyb: hi fabricius
fabricius: ricardon / jonnyb just popping in a second
there is a different type of calendar
=> use tracker as a calendar
I just look in the docs
jonnyb: ricardon: http://profiles.tiki.org/Bug_Tracker will build a simple one for you, with a wiki page for the form
fabricius: xavi showed us in Barcelona for ressource management
jonnyb: so a tracker's a good place to start?
ricardon: thanks looking now. I think the bit i am missing is how to add the data entry forms for trackers onto wiki pages
jonnyb: it uses a {tracker} plugin
http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTracker
fabricius: must be here ricardon http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerCalendar&structure=Documentation+TOC
jonnyb: I did write you an email, cause I need some help in implementing responsive design in Tiki
I think the mqin task would be to get some new condition into the visibility options of the modules
jonnyb: fabricius: i think if ricardon is just starting out in tiki keeping it simple to start with might be better - tiki easily can swamp you!
fabricius: will try and read it later
ricardon: ok , thanks Jonnyb , bit surprised at myself not finding these pages. I have been looking for an hour! I have been app programming for many years but completely new to tiki
jonnyb: sorry, i _will_ read it later, not just try! :P
fabricius: jonnyb: you are right, but we do not know his pre-knowledge and he seems to have a very specific usecase/problem
ricardon: I want to use it to allow one group of people to offer a service and another to book that service
Thanks Fabricius, Johnnyb
fabricius: jonnyb: thx ... its ok ;-) ...
jonnyb: ricardon: welcome to tiki! app programmers most welcome!
ricardon: great to have such good support
jonnyb: tiki does groups and perms pretty well
ricardon: If I can get my brain around this I should be helpful to the community
fabricius: i have to go ... see ya later
good luck ricardon and welcome to th ecommunity
jonnyb: quite easy to set up one group to have admin and another just to enter data
try and get your head around the profiles - they will simplify lots of complex tasks and show you what's possible...
however, set up a blank default tiki (locally for instance) to play with - profiles can make changes you wouldn't want on a production site (and there's no undo!)
ricardon: ok, what I want is a separate tracker linked with each group. Group A : details their offer Group B: Shows their skills and makes application
I greated the groups and the trackers. But now look to integrate the data entry into nice wiki type pages and format the output.
Group A should see a list of who has applied and group b should get to see a list of their applications.
I should think this has been done a million times in tiki
jonnyb: indeed, of course
ricardon: Is there a repository of scripts that people have used with tiki?
jonnyb: you probably should look at some of ricks99 books and sites - let me find one
ricardon: sort of a library of hacks
ricks99: you rang?
ricardon: lol , that was fast
jonnyb: ah, hi ricks99
ricks99: somone said "ricks99"
;-)
polom y'all
jonnyb: do you have a good recipe to follow for a pretty tracker form system?
some sort of bookings thing i think, for ricardon here
ricks99: yup. There's a "pretty tracker" section in Tiki Essentials
http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com
jonnyb: thought so, thanks!
ricardon: have a look here too: http://tikiforsmarties.com/Books
ricks99: no problem
jonnyb: :)
ricardon: ok think I need to read some of this stuff and come back to you.
Thanks heaps.
ricks99: bbl
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44904 10trunk/ 10lib/jquery_tiki/elfinder/elFinderVolumeTikiFiles.class.php 10lib/core/Services/File/FinderController.php
tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: Apply tiki permissions to elfinder objects, more to be done i'm sure
tikiwiki 03yonixxx r44905 10branches/10.x/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css
tikiwiki [FIX]Fixing tracker tabs and loging box content alignment
luciash: polom polom
jonnyb: moloq moloq
luciash: :)
jonnyb: hi, will backport your {query} fix, don't you mind, do you ?
jonnyb: the clue tip one?
sure - it's a bit hacky but works
(has been like that since tiki 6 i think! ;) )
luciash: the print one
jonnyb: or right - sure, backport whatever works :)
Jyhem: polom
I just got some good suggestion to add class perspective{categnumber} to body when $prefs['feature_perspective'] == 'y'
jonnyb: is the commit path still Tiki10 → backport to trunk → 9.x ?
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03yonixxx r44906 10branches/10.x/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css
tikiwiki [FIX]Better integration with default theme
tikiwiki 03jyhem r44907 10branches/10.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_body_attributes.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Allow CSS styles to know which is the current perspective
luciash: Jyhem: i think it depends what is your primary target to fix
Jyhem: there are no more automerges to trunk if i understood correctly
Jyhem: ok. I did the merge anyway
message should pass promptly
luciash: if you do it it is ok
:)
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jyhem r44908 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_body_attributes.php
tikiwiki [bp/r44907][ENH] Allow CSS styles to know which is the current perspective
Jyhem: rimary target is 9.x
It's risk-free, I'll backport
jonnyb: hi Jyhem (sorry, disasters everywhere) - no one's regularly merging from 10 to trunk so i say go trunk -> 10 -> 9
Jyhem: jonnyb: ok. Understood. Will do that next. I suspected 10 → trunk → 9 would not last forever. This one was 10 → trunk → 9
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jyhem r44909 10branches/9.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_body_attributes.php
tikiwiki [bp/r44907][ENH] Allow CSS styles to know which is the current perspective
jonnyb: just updated http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit#Dashboard
a bit late - merging sort of stopped last year
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Jyhem: thanks jonnyb
Someone asks me if it would be a lot of work to add a new modules "box" on top of all the existing ones. I wonder wht I should answer :-) The purpose would be, put all admin modules there, so it would not show for normal users, and make it show/hide on the left side of the browser screen.
I saw it done using the right "box". works nicely (but uses up the "right box"
luciash: u mean to keep the right column and add an extra one which would show up next or over it ?
maybe you can use shadowlayers feature for it and put the modules there using the {wiki} syntax ?
or you need the drag and drop ?
and the toggle icon ?
Jyhem: luciash: no toggle icon, just drag & drop modules in the box
wait for demo
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Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03yonixxx r44910 10branches/10.x/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css
tikiwiki [FIX]Oupss... thanks jb for poking me
tikiwiki 03luciash r44911 10trunk/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] print (wiki page): keep _all_ URL params - useful when you have e.g. TRACKERLIST plugin on a page and using tr_user=foo or other custom params to print the same content as displayed
jonnyb: luciash: good fix (by the look of it) in r44911 - thanks
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03luciash r44912 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r44877][FIX] print: Add all auto_query_args to print icon link so itemId etc get carried through (thanks eromneg)
luciash: jonnyb: yup, i think it is better now
jonnyb: :)
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03luciash r44913 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r44911][FIX] print (wiki page): keep _all_ URL params - useful when you have e.g. TRACKERLIST plugin on a page and using tr_user=foo or other custom params to print the same content as displayed
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polom
jonnyb: hi lindonb - how goes?
lindonb: jonnyb: doing well, thank you!
and you?
Jyhem: Hmmm Luci, I think the one param you do NOT want to carry over is the highlight param
jonnyb: not bad thanks - enjoying being at home for a change! :)
lindonb: yes, you've been on the go for a while
luciash: Jyhem: why not, i want to highlight what i looked for in print
lindonb: looks like query table sorter forked
http://mottie.github.com/tablesorter/docs/index.html
forked version has nice-looking table filtering and other goodies
jonnyb: might be worth trying an update? (locally first, obviously)
luciash: Jyhem: except it does not highlight in print view anyway :-(
Jyhem: at least with fivealive
lindonb: jonnyb: yes, how does do that?
externals are a mystery to me (along with a lot of other things)
jonnyb: just try replacing the file(s) locally and see if it all still works first
lindonb: got it
jonnyb: it'll automatically commit to third_party if and when you're ready (on that one as it's on our svn inside lib/jquery i think)
Jyhem: luciash: well, that's cool, then :-) When i search words, it is nice that the search words are hihlighted, but for printing the page, not a good idea
luciash: Jyhem: if you do not want the params, just click refresh on the page title ;)
lindonb: jonnyb: cool, thanks
Jyhem: luciash: I know and I do. My users… not quite sure
luciash: Jyhem: if they complain you can tell them ;)
Jyhem: has that ever worked ? :)
luciash: what is &page_ref_id=1 good for ???
jonnyb: i mean it is not passed using {query} if the display page as structure or something like that is used on wiki homepage now, but i do not see any side effect - it still displays the same to me
including the structure navigation box
jonnyb: isn't it used in structures? (don't know so left it alone)
luciash: i mean you removed it and only affected thing is when using tiki-index.php as wiki homepage . it does not get passed to {query}, otherwise it works if referrenced in URL of course
the previous code passed it in $page_ref_id automagically
even when it was not present in the URL as param
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44914 10trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] categs: Only return array of the categIds even if parentId = 0. Doesn't seem to break anything else but look out for side-effects (thanks Trebly)
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luciash: jonnyb: ok, until anybody complains, it can stay - we can add the ref_id check back any time
jonnyb: isn't page_ref_id an auto_query_arg? So should get added if it was there in the first place i think, no?
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03luciash r44915 10branches/9.x/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r44877][FIX] print: Add all auto_query_args to print icon link so itemId etc get carried through (thanks eromneg)
luciash: jonnyb: i don't know how exactly the wiki index page works but i know if it is HomePage it removes the page name part and anything else and it displays just using the tiki-index.php and if there is page_ref_id it was added too even when it was not present in the URL
jonnyb: which is not the case using {query}... i will try now if it is kept when i use the _keepall param
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jonnyb: ok, sorry - can't ceck this stuff now
check
luciash: ok, seems it is not, anyway, not a big deal i think for now. i was just hoping you know more than me ;)
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03luciash r44916 10branches/9.x/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r44911][FIX] print (wiki page): keep _all_ URL params - useful when you have e.g. TRACKERLIST plugin on a page and using tr_user=foo or other custom params to print the same content as displayed
Jyhem: I have a website with one perspective 1 and perspective 0, of course. When I am in perspective 1 and I access /tiki-admin.php I get the CSS of perspective 0. Is that on purpose ?
I seem to remember some conversation, but I forgot the conclusion :-(
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luciash: anybody knows where lib/smarty/ moved in trunk ?
jonnyb: into vendors/smarty
you'll have to run setup.sh and get the new packaging thing working (it's a bit dull)
http://dev.tiki.org/Composer
Jyhem: Hmm, I notice the page http://dev.tiki.org/Composer fails to mention the benefits one expects of Composer :-( I guess I'll understand when i encounter them?
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jonnyb: Jyhem: not necessarily :) svn up is a bit quicker... that's about it i think
-: Jyhem feels we need some concept of evaluating new stuff. Some concept with room for negative evaluations.
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Jyhem: About the admin pages jumping out of the perspective: it seems to be by design :-(
lib/setup/prefs.php, line 395 : if ( ! isset( $section ) || $section != 'admin' ) {
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luciash: what is the best way to get the last portion/of/an/uri?to=smarty ?
after the last /
jonnyb: it's somewhere in the $smarty object - $smarty.server.request_query or something
luciash: $smarty.server.REQUEST_URI returns absolute path from first / (including)
lindonb: can't get past the "you're not completely set up" composer message
luciash: setup.sh fix worked for me, lindon
lindonb: when i run setup.sh, it says my lock file is out of date
luciash: 'setup.sh fix' is the command
lindonb: okay let me try that
luciash: lock file of svn ?
lindonb: i'm assuming the composer.lock file but not sure
jonnyb: no, the lock file is something to do with composer
yup
lindonb: i have a half finished email about what i did to get it working - shall i send it to you? (might have some clues)
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44917 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Profile/InstallHandler/FileGallery.php
tikiwiki [FIX] profiles filegals: Only show the "columns" and "popups" specified in the profile if anything is set (otherwise use the defaults)
lindonb: jonnyb: that would be great :)
i get a runtime exception too
Package could not be downloaded, sh: svn: command not found
jonnyb: actually it's not so much help...
i needed to install the php openssl extension, and on my server i had to add something to php.ini
lindonb: eek!
luciash: svn command not found ? oups
jonnyb: lindonb: sent you the mail anyway
what's the full error you are getting?
lindonb: ok, thanks
luciash: jonnyb: i use the REQUEST_URI - that is why i need to strip all except last / and the rest after
lindonb: full message:
jonnyb: luciash: have a look in phpinfo - there might be one that already has what you want
lindonb: You are using the latest composer version.
Loading composer repositories with package information
Installing dependencies from lock file
Warning: The lock file is not up to date with the latest changes in composer.json. You may be getting outdated dependencies. Run update to update them.
- Installing smarty/smarty (v3.1.13)
Checking out /tags/v3.1.13/@4699
[RuntimeException]
Package could not be downloaded, sh: svn: command not found
install [--prefer-source] [--prefer-dist] [--dry-run] [--dev] [--no-custom-installers] [--no-scripts] [--no-progress] [-v|--verbose] [-o|--optimize-autoloader]
whoa - sorry about that!
jonnyb: :D
is this on mac os?
lindonb: yes
luciash: jonnyb: thanks
jonnyb: and using mamp?
lindonb: no, native php and apache
jonnyb: and you have svn installed?
(you only need to get composer working for svn i think)
lindonb: maybe not - i have it as part of phpstorm
jonnyb: ah, ok - that'll be in a different place (inside phpstorm)
easiest would be to install svn from collabnet
http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion (community downloads)
except those are all only svn 1.6 and phpstorm uses 1.7 which isn't compatible...
unless you told it to use 1.6 when you did the checkout
lindonb: i told it to use 1.7
jonnyb: it'll be on the "Subversion Working Copies Information" tab on the changes panel (in phpstorm)
meh
lindonb: found it - says 1.7
jonnyb: http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download has some 1.7s for mac
no idea who they are tho (looks ok)
lindonb: okay, thanks
i notice I do have a .subversion folder in my user directory
as well as a .subversion_IDEA folder
jonnyb: the IDEA one is phpstorm, the other might be too
lindonb: don't quite get why I need to download svn?
is it to separately update composer?
jonnyb: setup.sh expects it to be there
(apparently)
lindonb: ok
will try it
arildb: Hi, I made a test with a CkEditor 4 integration in Tiki
Seems to work well. Only minor changes needed
Should this go into an experimental branch, or add it to trunk...maybe with an option to CkEditor 4
jonnyb: hi arildb - sounds good
how well (does it seem)?
can you put it somewhere people could try it a bit?
arildb: only locally right now
It's very few changes. Maybe I can add it to trunk?
hard coding the ckeditor4 option for now
jonnyb: hmm, i'd be tempted to not make it optional i think
get the pain over with! :D
arildb: maybe best suited as an experimental for now. Just to look
jonnyb: it depends on if you think we (you maybe) can get it stable before we branch for 11
sorry, i have to go now... i guess we can unoptionlise it later
arildb: it looks like a very smooth transition. Only minor changes. No errors in my tests so far
yes
jonnyb: ok, good luck - looking forward to it (sort of)
arildb: the inline editing is trhe interesting part. I haven't looked at that
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Hello
luciash
Answering intead of jyhem
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tikiwiki [FIX] profiles filegals: Add special handling for filegal names (works in a different way, of course)
joelCOE: Actually, the solution we use currently takes us the right zone in our website
The idea is to use an entire site zone to drop modules within with only admin rights.
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44919 10trunk/ 10admin/include_profiles.php 10templates/admin/include_profiles.tpl
tikiwiki [ENH] profiles: Add dropdown menu for which caches to clear, if any, when using the advanced "test" form
joelCOE: If it is the very first zone to appear, then it can be a a top admin bar, over the top bar
We can as well use the top bar, but actually this makes us mix logo and menus...
end of answer to luciash
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r44920 10trunk/ 10(270 files in 53 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Add CkEditor4
tikiwiki 03arildb r44921 10trunk/lib/ckeditor4/ 10(16 files in 3 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Add kama skin from CkEditor 3.6. Used by Tiki
tikiwiki 03arildb r44922 10trunk/ 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikiplugin/plugin.js 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/_tikilink/plugin.js 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php
tikiwiki [NEW] Integrated CkEditor 4, which is set as the active editor.
tikiwiki Removed BiDi settings, since they caused JS errors.
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hi
i have a few questions if you don't mind ?
mm ok it's on as.elvista.com/index.php
how can i reduce the blank space below the logo?
it's tiki10
luciash: hi g4mm4
lemme have a quick look
g4mm4: thx
luciash: g4mm4: try #top_modules .box-logo {height: 230px} in your CSS
g4mm4: so i really need to edit css manualy ? ok what is the name of the css file?
luciash: joelCOE: ok, you can just put modules in any zone and make them visible only assigned to Admins group
joelCOE: e.g. bottom
g4mm4: you do not need to, you can also put it in Look&Feel > Custom CSS admin panel
joelCOE: @ g4mm4
#header { height: 26em; width: 100%;
g4mm4: mm the profile was great in the end i'd like the logo as abackground
ah ok
i try it right now
joelCOE: darkroom.css
Buggy ;)
Just remove this in firebug and the bizarre height is gone
luciash: joelCOE: and then use position: fixed to position it on any edge of the screen
g4mm4: mm i feel overrolled ;) sorry
luciash: joelCOE: or do you have all the zones occupied ?
g4mm4: shall i try the css code #top_modules ... now?
it's everwhere anonymous, admin
luciash: g4mm4: i tried in firebug and it helped, you can try too, yes :)
joelCOE: luciash : the idea is to have a zone only to put admin stuff in top or left part of the website
luciash: joelCOE: you mean you are too lazy to assign every module to Admins group so you need special admin zone ?
joelCOE: you can have #bottom_modules {position: fixed; left 0; top: 10px}
joelCOE: so they appear on left edge of the viewport
joelCOE: g4mm4 in darkroom.css line 388 #top_modules #sitetitles {margin: 10% 20px;} does the bug. Just remove or override
luciash: gtg
g4mm4: isn't the an option like somewhere title,sub-tiltle is set by background:black .. can't i just change black to an image? but where?
and darkroom.css is where to find please
but i tested other profiles all the same
just for an addition
so // the line would be helpful or how do you comment in css
ok i'll try it
while that how can i set articles_home my default site?
joelCOE: luciash : Actually, I need a "box" (div, or anything) to drop modules within, on top of tiki zones, and yes, then I need to add admin group only to change visibility of it.
If you don't have access to your darkroom.css, you can add some custom css here : tiki-admin.php?page=look&cookietab=2 in Custom CSS part (look and feel, Customization)
It should override
If, not, add a class
Then if you don't already use it, please test firebug ;)
g4mm4: i have ftp access
so commending out line 388 is the solution?
ok so the same is on the ugly dispay of shoutbox on the site?
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g4mm4: hi
lindonb: lphuberdeau: I created a php file with passthru('svn --help');
joelCOE: g4mm4 : sorry but the shoutbox = more work
lindonb: and I got this error: sh: svn: command not found
joelCOE: Uses tables ...
lindonb: lphuberdeau: I ran it in the tikiroot
g4mm4: k it works fine for registered
joelCOE: g4mm4 : you must add .box-data td {display: block; float: left; width: 100%} to your css, but this doesn't work well in old versions of iexplore (8 OK)
g4mm4: @joelCOE can i do this within the tiki admin or do i need to edit files directly?
joelCOE: g4mm4 : you can add some css in look&feel>customization to override
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joelCOE: But if you have access to css, it is better to edit it :) All changes in the same place...
g4mm4: k i used this and pasted :" .box-data td {display: block; float: left; width: 100%} "
didn't change anything
marclaporte: arildb: yay for CK Editor 4!
arildb: marclaporte: thanks.
joelCOE: Changed in your site, try CTRL+refresh
arildb: marclaporte: does CkEditor work ok on your side. I have only tested with Windows
joelCOE: Then you need to add #captcha img {width: auto;}
marclaporte: arildb: testing now
joelCOE: sorry was @ g4mm4
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03luciash r44923 10trunk/templates/tiki-page_bar.tpl
tikiwiki [ENH] Bookmarks (wiki page): keep URL params to bookmark the same content as displayed
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g4mm4: k i guess i get it managed by source one last question: i want to generate a new main munue entry by an article which mainly is an iframe?
joelCOE: g4mm4 : looks tricky. The easiest to add a menu is to set up a structure with some copy/paste of indented text (use on space for level1, two spaces for level2, ... you can use search/replace to do it from some source copied in a good text editor, like geany), then add a menu and put the name of your structure. Then, you have to fill the wiki pages with content or iframes or whatever :)
marclaporte: I am getting: Warning: The lock file is not up to date with the latest changes in composer.json. You may be getting outdated dependencies. Run update to update them.
joelCOE: g4mm4 add this menu in the modules menu
g4mm4: i just want to run an irc web access
hell
i like the features i always used joomla this is why i ask so stupid conversion questions
alone latex or displaying R is neat
joelCOE: No prob. I'm also discovering. R is planned for use as well in our WS...
marclaporte: arildb: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=wysiwyg_sample_page
arildb: checking
seems to work fine, or?
marclaporte: I get the feeling some extra line breaks are added
It works well for such an upgrade
arildb: ok...could be
marclaporte: jCapture is not working so I can't easily show you :-)
arildb: marclaporte: yes, line breaks are added. ...
marclaporte: If a page is converted from wiki to WYSIWYG, the diff is wonky but I guess this is too be expected
arildb: marclaporte: was jCapture working before?
marclaporte: I don't know, but I doubt very much it's related to this commit
arildb: ok
marclaporte: arildb: about articles, which have one wiki box, and one WYSIWYG box, there is a patch floating around by e-mail which should make it to tiki-devel for public evaluation soon
Heading vs body of articles: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-edit_article.php
ck4 feels faster than ck3
arildb: I sure hope other people will join in, if CkEditor 4 is to be stabalized.
yes, it does seem a bit faster
marclaporte: You did the right thing by opening the dance floor!
arildb: he he ... I hope so
g4mm4: <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/menubuilder/menu.js"></script> is it mabybe a jscript option job?
marclaporte: PluginMouseover doesn't work, when trying to input new content
joelCOE: g4mm4 sorry not my level of skill...
marclaporte: ok, none of the plugin tools work
arildb: so, there is a bit of work to get it stable
g4mm4: k all i wanted to know was if it was ok to manipulate the source so it seems to be as find a neat solution i post it here
marclaporte: arildb: editing the plugins works beautifully
arildb: oh good!
joelCOE: Ok, thanks :) Good luck ;)
marclaporte: arildb: where should I log issues?
arildb: not sure. Maybe start a CkEditor4 page on dev?
marclaporte: perfect
http://dev.tiki.org/CKEditor4
arildb: looks good
joelCOE: Bye all