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[00:26] luciash ricks99: where it occurs ?
[00:27] ricks99 i'm on tiki-list_file_gallery.php
[00:27] ricks99 i click CREATE A FILE GALLERY
[00:27] luciash i mean which site
[00:27] luciash may be php settings
[00:27] ricks99 ah...
[00:27] ricks99 lemme run tiki-check
[00:27] luciash yes
[00:27] luciash good idea
[00:27] ricks99 ack no tikicheck on 9.4?
[00:28] luciash tiki-check.php should be there
[00:28] ricks99 yup. found it
[00:28] ricks99 hm... php 5.2.17
[00:30] ricks99 but don't see why that would b a problem
[00:30] ricks99 im running LTS
[00:30] ricks99 anything i should look at?
[00:33] ricks99 don't understand why tiiki thinks im logged out :(
[00:39] ricks99 any ideas?
[00:42] marclaporte This is not 1st report of issue with "Create a File Gallery"
[00:42] ricks99 o?
[00:44] ricks99 any workarounds?
[00:45] marclaporte http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2013-02-23,Sat&sel=17#l13
[00:45] marclaporte not that I know of but I haven't followed closely
[00:46] ricks99 :(
[00:46] * ricks99 was hoping marc could fix everythhing :)
[00:50] marclaporte hahahah
[00:53] ricks99 definately a permission check issue. if i give perm to anonymous to create, all is well
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[00:54] ricks99 or maybe session? if tiki keeps thinking im logged out?
[00:58] marclaporte sounds like a regression: http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+figure+out+what+revision+number+causes+a+bug
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[01:53] marclaporte www vs non www ?
[02:17] ricks99 hm... maybe root vs subdirectory... checking
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[04:38] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Done : New modes to manage wiki pages - to be shown and viewed in ui, need probably some help before commit 10.x - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45977
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[12:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks again marclaporte)
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[12:47] jonnyb pom pom polom
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[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Synchronise tiki-check with trunk as it's a stand-alone script and relevant to Tiki 9, 10 and 11+ - comprising:
[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki   [bp/r42877][FIX] Time limits of 0 also mean unlimited in php.ini, [KIL] Duplicate code
[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki   [bp/r42878][ENH] More comprehensible check for how errors are reported by PHP, [ENH] More reliable check for ini_set
[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki   [bp/r44896][MOD] Just a little design in this world of gross
[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki   [bp/r44967][FIX] check: Add test for GD Freetype support (required for CAPTCHA image generation)
[13:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki   [bp/r44990][FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks marclaporte)
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[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [bp/r44991] Synchronise tiki-check with trunk as it's a stand-alone script and relevant to Tiki 9, 10 and 11+ - comprising:
[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki       [bp/r42877][FIX] Time limits of 0 also mean unlimited in php.ini, [KIL] Duplicate code
[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki       [bp/r42878][ENH] More comprehensible check for how errors are reported by PHP, [ENH] More reliable check for ini_set
[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki       [bp/r44896][MOD] Just a little design in this world of gross
[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki       [bp/r44967][FIX] check: Add test for GD Freetype support (required for CAPTCHA image generation)
[13:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki       [bp/r44990][FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks marclaporte)
[13:35] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4388 - - Logout script with home redirect problem  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4388
[13:53] changi polom
[13:59] luciash polom pom pom
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[15:39] Dedou Hi everyone, I was asked to install TikiWiki on the server of the company I work for. That part is done. But now, I'm going to have to dev some application or tools. Is there some site or tutorial that can show me how to do? Thanks
[15:47] changi Dedou: dev.tiki.org / doc.tiki.org
[15:47] changi Dedou: profile.tiki.org
[15:52] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Formal proposal to remove legacy MapServer and Google Maps code and converge all via OpenLayers going forward: please vote - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45985
[16:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: New Facebook Module - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45986
[16:11] joelCOE Hi all
[16:12] joelCOE Again a "little" question...
[16:13] joelCOE We would like to hide some stuff using the "flipperidFood" to use with the titles, such as !-Text to hide
[16:14] joelCOE Currently, we are using the CSS to add some text before the little "+"
[16:15] joelCOE But this is an issue to just have this little sign to contract/expand the text under a heading...
[16:15] joelCOE Our users might just never see it
[16:16] joelCOE Is there some possibility to change this ? Like to hack the code somewhere easily so we can put some translatable text ?
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[17:00] joelCOE Hacked tiki-js.js
[17:01] joelCOE Now how to get it displayed first :)
[17:08] joelCOE Doesn't change when using lang/en/custom.php
[17:15] joelCOE Ok, let's report this to tomorrow :)
[17:16] ricks99 joelCOE: did you clear tiki caches?
[17:21] joelCOE @rick99
[17:21] joelCOE thanks I forgot this part
[17:21] joelCOE And now it WORKS
[17:21] ricks99 :-)
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[17:31] joelCOE Argh doesn't work finally - I'll see this tomorrow. But it would be great to have more than just a [+]
[17:31] joelCOE Bye
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[18:57] nilsge help, I'm beeing overrun by spam accounts. My site is new, has little content, 4 visitors per day or so, you could it is inactive. And I already get 5 or 6 new spam users everyday. I have mail activation and recaptcha activated, but still...
[18:57] nilsge none of them has activated their accounts yet and subsequently not logged in and I can delete them manually, but still that makes me worry
[18:57] ricks99 nilsge: what is your tiki version?
[18:57] nilsge 10.1
[18:58] ricks99 hm... not sure. maybe someone else knows? you should post to dev list, too
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[19:00] nilsge is there a feature to delete all users which are not activated or have never logged in since x days?
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[19:01] nilsge probably another captcha. ReCaptcha is so widespread... on the other hand, I doubt these are bots. They may be 1 cent per hour humans
[19:01] ricks99 i'mnot sure.. i'm mosting using LTS sites
[19:02] ricks99 you should post to forum and mailing list for wider audience
[19:02] nilsge ok
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[19:02] ricks99 i haven't heard of captcha-specifci issues with 10.x
[19:02] nilsge I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the version
[19:02] nilsge if these are indeed humans wo just create accounts all day to use them someday for forum spam..
[19:02] nilsge there is nothing I can do but delete them. The bad thing is that they show up in my userlist and pollute it
[19:03] ricks99 you should check your server log, then use Tiki's banning feature to ban from specfici IPs
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[21:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Web Hosting Control Panels, 1-click installers, ISPConfig 3.0.5, Packaging Team - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45989
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[22:00] danny-orion Evening, anybody live tonight?
[22:01] danny-orion I've been trying to enable the banner feature - but any attempt to use the "create" button just hangs. I've been seeing a lot of "Undefined variable: tiki_p_admin" recently.
[22:01] danny-orion I've got a fairly large db and site (orionrobots.co.uk) so I don't fancy recreating it.
[22:02] arildb danny-orion: which version of Tiki are you running?
[22:03] danny-orion 1.10 I think - let me just double check.
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[22:04] danny-orion Yes - 1.10.
[22:04] arildb danny-orion: it's been a while since your last upgrade, I believe
[22:04] danny-orion The db has been carried through a number of versions - it's been a tiki site for years.
[22:05] arildb danny-orion: this goes way back before I first saw Tiki.
[22:05] danny-orion I upgraded a few weeks ago.
[22:05] arildb to 1.10?
[22:05] arildb or 10.1?
[22:06] danny-orion 10.0
[22:06] arildb ah
[22:06] danny-orion Isn't that synonym for 1.10.0?
[22:06] danny-orion Thats the end of december release.
[22:06] arildb not AFAIK
[22:07] danny-orion Hmmm...No sorry - it is me - I mean 10.0
[22:07] arildb I am also using 10, and occationally visit the banners. I haven't seen any problems. Is upgrading to 10.1 (and hope for a fix) and alternative?
[22:08] danny-orion Perhaps so. I am wandering if having upgraded through many has left something in my db in a dodgy state - ie where the tiki_p_admin variable is being taken from.
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[22:18] danny-orion What is also odd is that version 9.0 is being offered as a major upgrade to version 10.0...
[22:21] marclaporte danny-orion: yes, odd
[22:21] marclaporte danny-orion: nice to see you back!
[22:21] danny-orion This is in a notification bar in the admin page.
[22:21] danny-orion I've been around, but busy.
[22:22] danny-orion It took me a while to get orionrobots upgraded - mostly I was worried about some deprecated features - hopefully a script to migrate image galleries to file galleries will be around soon..
[22:22] marclaporte danny-orion: yes, Update Notifier was revamped in Tiki10, and was wonky before that and not built to deal with our LTS versions (and now, we have doubled support period for LTS)
[22:23] marclaporte danny-orion: AFAIK, you should never lose any data.
[22:23] danny-orion Ah.I may see about getting regular updates - hopefully it won't mean quite so many css changes to keep the theme up to date. It started off as a modified planetfall..
[22:24] marclaporte Your theme will break for sure, thoug
[22:24] marclaporte Your theme will break for sure, though
[22:24] danny-orion I've not lost anything yet- although I'm trying to find ways to incorporate stuff I'd previously built custom plugins for.
[22:25] marclaporte Image Galleries are intended to be merged in with File Galleries but this will likely happen after File Gallery Revamp: http://dev.tiki.org/File+Gallery+Revamp
[22:25] marclaporte custom plugins will need updating to new plugin infra (from like Tiki3 or Tiki4)
[22:25] danny-orion Ah. I am trying to get what used to be in my googlebar mod to work in the banners feature...
[22:26] danny-orion I've pretty much abandoned those plugins - I did intend to get them into tiki svn - but never found time to do it - hence throwing them into that tiki enhance repo...
[22:26] marclaporte ok, now is the time!!
[22:27] marclaporte arildb:  FYI, Tiki 1.10 was never released and became 2.0
[22:27] danny-orion Possibly - although if the banner is simple as pasting in the google generated code - it could be a perfectly elegant solution.
[22:27] arildb marclaporte: ok...way before my time
[22:27] danny-orion Same with amazon code.
[22:28] danny-orion I think I may have started using tiki on a 0.x version - 2004ish.
[22:28] marclaporte When branch 1.10 started, it was not thought that it would be a big release but back then, we didn't have a 6-month schedule so 1.10 was developped for something like 3 years, and thus, by the end, it was quite a big change, thus, the name change to 2.0
[22:29] danny-orion I can't really remember - only that this database has been upgraded many times - it weighs in at 180Mb when dumped and zipped at the mo - there are a couple of unnecessary files in the gallery though - that may drop that a bit.
[22:29] danny-orion Ah - I was on 1.9 for a long time - I think I may have leapt from 1.9 to 10.0.
[22:30] danny-orion brb
[22:30] marclaporte Then, we decided to never again have such a long time between releases. 6 months was picked as the magic number
[22:30] marclaporte That was the single most important / best decision ever made in Tiki (to changed to a fixed release cycle)
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[22:31] * marclaporte has some sites on 1.9.x and wants to record a video of how easy the upgrade is....
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[22:37] danny-orion Ah
[22:37] danny-orion That is a good idea. 6 months - and I take it there are also minor bugfix releases(hence 10.1)?
[22:38] marclaporte yup
[22:38] danny-orion Mostly the upgrade was easy - just updating the styles and templates took a while... I think the result was better than my original though.
[22:38] marclaporte Please see: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle
[22:39] danny-orion Glad to see the image->file migration is thinking about URL's - that would be a pain to do manually.
[22:39] danny-orion I could probably script something myself - but it is all a matter of how much time to put in.
[22:40] danny-orion So yes - this thing offering major upgrade to 9.0 is odd:"Version 10.0 is no longer supported. A minor upgrade to 10.1 is required. Version 10.1 is still supported. However, a major upgrade to 9.0 is available."
[22:41] marclaporte danny-orion: thanks for reporting this issue. It will be fixed shortly
[22:41] danny-orion Ah - gotcha.
[22:42] marclaporte as for image galleries: just continue using them, they work just as well as before
[22:42] marclaporte and when the merge happens, you can be beta tester?
[22:42] danny-orion The main problem is the banners thing - to which I wander if this is related: "PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: tiki_p_admin in /home1/orionrob/public_html/main_site/lib/setup/error_reporting.php on line 12"
[22:43] danny-orion Ok - I've a test site to try such things...
[22:48] danny-orion So being an old site - there are a few oddities about the way it is set up - my host - currently bluehost is setup in such a way that subdomains are usually subdirs of the main site - which makes upgrading things a nuisance...
[22:48] danny-orion I've put the main site into a main_site subdir, and then done a bit of .htaccess poking to make it (mostly) work.
[22:56] danny-orion I've also been slowly looking at configs that are different to defaults -and making sure I can jsutify to myself why they are different - if there's no good reason - then generally I suspect the default prefs will lead to fewer problems.
[23:03] marclaporte danny-orion: agreed
[23:03] marclaporte danny-orion:  and before, there was no way to know what the default was
[23:04] danny-orion Yes - the little green arrows are rather handy to highlight these things.
[23:04] danny-orion So - any idea what that PHP notice above is? I suspect on my site I probably shouldn't have error reporting enabled - but will that then drop php errors to the log still or just silent fail?
[23:07] danny-orion By the way -as an alternative to continuing with the googlebar mod - if I can make it work in banners - I'd be happy to write a bit of wiki blurb on how I did it. I've currently got a google site claim thing going in the custom header code too - the upgrades have made these things far easier without needing to write plugins.
[23:19] marclaporte dunno about that error, but yes, many things can now be done in the admin panel
[23:20] marclaporte danny-orion: here is the place to link the new doc to: http://doc.tiki.org/Interoperability
[23:20] marclaporte what does Googlebar mod do?
[23:20] danny-orion There is something here - http://doc.tiki.org/AdSense
[23:21] danny-orion It was a template which substituted adsense parameters (meaning you had to pull them out of google code by hand) in a template and I think it was used as a module.
[23:22] danny-orion I turned it off for a while - so there has been no ad's on orionrobots for months...
[23:29] danny-orion Ok - age old debugging method - I am stuffing lots of error_log (ie printf's) into tiki-edit_banner.php - to see where it gets to before hanging/failing...
[23:36] marclaporte danny-orion: will this be your first commit?
[23:37] danny-orion I'm sure I've made commits before..
[23:37] danny-orion Can't remember what it was - ages ago...
[23:37] marclaporte you have commit access: http://sourceforge.net/users/orionrobots
[23:37] danny-orion Anyway - if I fix it - yes - I'll commit the changes
[23:37] marclaporte but http://tiki.org/copyright.txt doesn't have a record
[23:38] marclaporte nor does https://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki/contributors?query=orion&sort=commits
[23:38] danny-orion Ah. Maybe not then.
[23:39] danny-orion I thought I'd committed some fix - but it would have been many years back if I did.
[23:39] danny-orion Perhaps it would be my first.
[23:39] marclaporte some commit stats could be lost because of abandoned experimental branch
[23:39] marclaporte anyway, it's a new beginning :-)
[23:39] danny-orion hehe :)
[23:45] danny-orion I'd had a big problem with bogus user registrations - which the upgrade and a few tweaks seem to have calmed right down.
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[23:52] danny-orion Okay - and related to this (and why I mentioned it) - that script is getting stuck at the following line: $clients = $userlib->get_users(0, -1, 'login_asc', '');
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