#tikiwiki 2013-02-26,Tue

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Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03kstingel r44987 10third_party/packages/html/ 10index.html 10packages.json tikiwiki [REF] updated files from last build run tikiwiki 03kstingel r44988 03third_party/packages/tiki-config.json tikiwiki [NEW] this is the satis config file I used	[00:14]
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luciash	ricks99: where it occurs ?	[00:26]
ricks99	i'm on tiki-list_file_gallery.php i click CREATE A FILE GALLERY	[00:27]
luciash	i mean which site may be php settings	[00:27]
ricks99	ah... lemme run tiki-check	[00:27]
luciash	yes good idea	[00:27]
ricks99	ack no tikicheck on 9.4?	[00:27]
luciash	tiki-check.php should be there	[00:28]
ricks99	yup. found it hm... php 5.2.17 but don't see why that would b a problem im running LTS anything i should look at? don't understand why tiiki thinks im logged out :(	[00:28]
	any ideas?	[00:39]
marclaporte	This is not 1st report of issue with "Create a File Gallery"	[00:42]
ricks99	o? any workarounds?	[00:42]
marclaporte	http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2013-02-23,Sat&sel=17#l13 not that I know of but I haven't followed closely	[00:45]
ricks99	:( ricks99 was hoping marc could fix everythhing :)	[00:46]
marclaporte	hahahah	[00:50]
ricks99	definately a permission check issue. if i give perm to anonymous to create, all is well	[00:53]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03kstingel r44989 10third_party/ 10packages/html/index.html 10packages/tiki-config.json tikiwiki [REF] modified tiki-config.json, disabled default packagist repo tikiwiki [REF] index.html was updated after running updated config file	[00:54]
ricks99	or maybe session? if tiki keeps thinking im logged out?	[00:54]
marclaporte	sounds like a regression: http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+figure+out+what+revision+number+causes+a+bug	[00:58]
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marclaporte	www vs non www ?	[01:53]
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ricks99	hm... maybe root vs subdirectory... checking	[02:17]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Done : New modes to manage wiki pages - to be shown and viewed in ui, need probably some help before commit 10.x - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45977	[04:38]
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Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44990 10trunk/tiki-check.php tikiwiki [FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks again marclaporte)	[12:46]
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Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44991 10branches/10.x/tiki-check.php tikiwiki Synchronise tiki-check with trunk as it's a stand-alone script and relevant to Tiki 9, 10 and 11+ - comprising: tikiwiki [bp/r42877][FIX] Time limits of 0 also mean unlimited in php.ini, [KIL] Duplicate code tikiwiki [bp/r42878][ENH] More comprehensible check for how errors are reported by PHP, [ENH] More reliable check for ini_set tikiwiki [bp/r44896][MOD] Just a little design in this world of gross tikiwiki [bp/r44967][FIX] check: Add test for GD Freetype support (required for CAPTCHA image generation) tikiwiki [bp/r44990][FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks marclaporte)	[13:06]
	tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44992 10branches/9.x/tiki-check.php tikiwiki [bp/r44991] Synchronise tiki-check with trunk as it's a stand-alone script and relevant to Tiki 9, 10 and 11+ - comprising: tikiwiki [bp/r42877][FIX] Time limits of 0 also mean unlimited in php.ini, [KIL] Duplicate code tikiwiki [bp/r42878][ENH] More comprehensible check for how errors are reported by PHP, [ENH] More reliable check for ini_set tikiwiki [bp/r44896][MOD] Just a little design in this world of gross tikiwiki [bp/r44967][FIX] check: Add test for GD Freetype support (required for CAPTCHA image generation) tikiwiki [bp/r44990][FIX] check: Test for existence of GD functions before calling as they don't exist if the extension isn't there (thanks marclaporte)	[13:12]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4388 - - Logout script with home redirect problem - http://dev.tiki.org/item4388	[13:35]
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changi	polom	[13:53]
luciash	polom pom pom	[13:59]
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Dedou	joined #tikiwiki Hi everyone, I was asked to install TikiWiki on the server of the company I work for. That part is done. But now, I'm going to have to dev some application or tools. Is there some site or tutorial that can show me how to do? Thanks	[15:36]
changi	Dedou: dev.tiki.org / doc.tiki.org Dedou: profile.tiki.org	[15:47]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Formal proposal to remove legacy MapServer and Google Maps code and converge all via OpenLayers going forward: please vote - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45985	[15:52]
	New Forum Posts: New Facebook Module - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45986	[16:02]
joelCOE	Hi all Again a "little" question... We would like to hide some stuff using the "flipperidFood" to use with the titles, such as !-Text to hide Currently, we are using the CSS to add some text before the little "+" But this is an issue to just have this little sign to contract/expand the text under a heading... Our users might just never see it Is there some possibility to change this ? Like to hack the code somewhere easily so we can put some translatable text ?	[16:11]
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joelCOE	Hacked tiki-js.js Now how to get it displayed first :)	[17:00]
	Doesn't change when using lang/en/custom.php	[17:08]
	Ok, let's report this to tomorrow :)	[17:15]
ricks99	joelCOE: did you clear tiki caches?	[17:16]
joelCOE	@rick99 thanks I forgot this part And now it WORKS	[17:21]
ricks99	:-)	[17:21]
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joelCOE	Argh doesn't work finally - I'll see this tomorrow. But it would be great to have more than just a [+] Bye	[17:31]
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nilsge	joined #tikiwiki help, I'm beeing overrun by spam accounts. My site is new, has little content, 4 visitors per day or so, you could it is inactive. And I already get 5 or 6 new spam users everyday. I have mail activation and recaptcha activated, but still... none of them has activated their accounts yet and subsequently not logged in and I can delete them manually, but still that makes me worry	[18:55]
ricks99	nilsge: what is your tiki version?	[18:57]
nilsge	10.1	[18:57]
ricks99	hm... not sure. maybe someone else knows? you should post to dev list, too	[18:58]
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nilsge	is there a feature to delete all users which are not activated or have never logged in since x days?	[19:00]
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nilsge	probably another captcha. ReCaptcha is so widespread... on the other hand, I doubt these are bots. They may be 1 cent per hour humans	[19:01]
ricks99	i'mnot sure.. i'm mosting using LTS sites you should post to forum and mailing list for wider audience	[19:01]
nilsge	ok	[19:02]
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ricks99	i haven't heard of captcha-specifci issues with 10.x	[19:02]
nilsge	I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the version if these are indeed humans wo just create accounts all day to use them someday for forum spam.. there is nothing I can do but delete them. The bad thing is that they show up in my userlist and pollute it	[19:02]
ricks99	you should check your server log, then use Tiki's banning feature to ban from specfici IPs	[19:03]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Web Hosting Control Panels, 1-click installers, ISPConfig 3.0.5, Packaging Team - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=45989	[21:26]
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danny-orion	joined #tikiwiki Evening, anybody live tonight? I've been trying to enable the banner feature - but any attempt to use the "create" button just hangs. I've been seeing a lot of "Undefined variable: tiki_p_admin" recently. I've got a fairly large db and site (orionrobots.co.uk) so I don't fancy recreating it.	[22:00]
arildb	danny-orion: which version of Tiki are you running?	[22:02]
danny-orion	1.10 I think - let me just double check.	[22:03]
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danny-orion	Yes - 1.10.	[22:04]
arildb	danny-orion: it's been a while since your last upgrade, I believe	[22:04]
danny-orion	The db has been carried through a number of versions - it's been a tiki site for years.	[22:04]
arildb	danny-orion: this goes way back before I first saw Tiki.	[22:05]
danny-orion	I upgraded a few weeks ago.	[22:05]
arildb	to 1.10? or 10.1?	[22:05]
danny-orion	10.0	[22:06]
arildb	ah	[22:06]
danny-orion	Isn't that synonym for 1.10.0? Thats the end of december release.	[22:06]
arildb	not AFAIK	[22:06]
danny-orion	Hmmm...No sorry - it is me - I mean 10.0	[22:07]
arildb	I am also using 10, and occationally visit the banners. I haven't seen any problems. Is upgrading to 10.1 (and hope for a fix) and alternative?	[22:07]
danny-orion	Perhaps so. I am wandering if having upgraded through many has left something in my db in a dodgy state - ie where the tiki_p_admin variable is being taken from.	[22:08]
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danny-orion	What is also odd is that version 9.0 is being offered as a major upgrade to version 10.0...	[22:18]
marclaporte	danny-orion: yes, odd danny-orion: nice to see you back!	[22:21]
danny-orion	This is in a notification bar in the admin page. I've been around, but busy. It took me a while to get orionrobots upgraded - mostly I was worried about some deprecated features - hopefully a script to migrate image galleries to file galleries will be around soon..	[22:21]
marclaporte	danny-orion: yes, Update Notifier was revamped in Tiki10, and was wonky before that and not built to deal with our LTS versions (and now, we have doubled support period for LTS) danny-orion: AFAIK, you should never lose any data.	[22:22]
danny-orion	Ah.I may see about getting regular updates - hopefully it won't mean quite so many css changes to keep the theme up to date. It started off as a modified planetfall..	[22:23]
marclaporte	Your theme will break for sure, thoug Your theme will break for sure, though	[22:24]
danny-orion	I've not lost anything yet- although I'm trying to find ways to incorporate stuff I'd previously built custom plugins for.	[22:24]
marclaporte	Image Galleries are intended to be merged in with File Galleries but this will likely happen after File Gallery Revamp: http://dev.tiki.org/File+Gallery+Revamp custom plugins will need updating to new plugin infra (from like Tiki3 or Tiki4)	[22:25]
danny-orion	Ah. I am trying to get what used to be in my googlebar mod to work in the banners feature... I've pretty much abandoned those plugins - I did intend to get them into tiki svn - but never found time to do it - hence throwing them into that tiki enhance repo...	[22:25]
marclaporte	ok, now is the time!! arildb: FYI, Tiki 1.10 was never released and became 2.0	[22:26]
danny-orion	Possibly - although if the banner is simple as pasting in the google generated code - it could be a perfectly elegant solution.	[22:27]
arildb	marclaporte: ok...way before my time	[22:27]
danny-orion	Same with amazon code. I think I may have started using tiki on a 0.x version - 2004ish.	[22:27]
marclaporte	When branch 1.10 started, it was not thought that it would be a big release but back then, we didn't have a 6-month schedule so 1.10 was developped for something like 3 years, and thus, by the end, it was quite a big change, thus, the name change to 2.0	[22:28]
danny-orion	I can't really remember - only that this database has been upgraded many times - it weighs in at 180Mb when dumped and zipped at the mo - there are a couple of unnecessary files in the gallery though - that may drop that a bit. Ah - I was on 1.9 for a long time - I think I may have leapt from 1.9 to 10.0. brb	[22:29]
marclaporte	Then, we decided to never again have such a long time between releases. 6 months was picked as the magic number That was the single most important / best decision ever made in Tiki (to changed to a fixed release cycle)	[22:30]
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marclaporte	marclaporte has some sites on 1.9.x and wants to record a video of how easy the upgrade is....	[22:31]
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danny-orion	Ah That is a good idea. 6 months - and I take it there are also minor bugfix releases(hence 10.1)?	[22:37]
marclaporte	yup	[22:38]
danny-orion	Mostly the upgrade was easy - just updating the styles and templates took a while... I think the result was better than my original though.	[22:38]
marclaporte	Please see: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle	[22:38]
danny-orion	Glad to see the image->file migration is thinking about URL's - that would be a pain to do manually. I could probably script something myself - but it is all a matter of how much time to put in. So yes - this thing offering major upgrade to 9.0 is odd:"Version 10.0 is no longer supported. A minor upgrade to 10.1 is required. Version 10.1 is still supported. However, a major upgrade to 9.0 is available."	[22:39]
marclaporte	danny-orion: thanks for reporting this issue. It will be fixed shortly	[22:41]
danny-orion	Ah - gotcha.	[22:41]
marclaporte	as for image galleries: just continue using them, they work just as well as before and when the merge happens, you can be beta tester?	[22:42]
danny-orion	The main problem is the banners thing - to which I wander if this is related: "PHP Notice: Undefined variable: tiki_p_admin in /home1/orionrob/public_html/main_site/lib/setup/error_reporting.php on line 12" Ok - I've a test site to try such things...	[22:42]
	So being an old site - there are a few oddities about the way it is set up - my host - currently bluehost is setup in such a way that subdomains are usually subdirs of the main site - which makes upgrading things a nuisance... I've put the main site into a main_site subdir, and then done a bit of .htaccess poking to make it (mostly) work.	[22:48]
	I've also been slowly looking at configs that are different to defaults -and making sure I can jsutify to myself why they are different - if there's no good reason - then generally I suspect the default prefs will lead to fewer problems.	[22:56]
marclaporte	danny-orion: agreed danny-orion: and before, there was no way to know what the default was	[23:03]
danny-orion	Yes - the little green arrows are rather handy to highlight these things. So - any idea what that PHP notice above is? I suspect on my site I probably shouldn't have error reporting enabled - but will that then drop php errors to the log still or just silent fail? By the way -as an alternative to continuing with the googlebar mod - if I can make it work in banners - I'd be happy to write a bit of wiki blurb on how I did it. I've currently got a google site claim thing going in the custom header code too - the upgrades have made these things far easier without needing to write plugins.	[23:04]
marclaporte	dunno about that error, but yes, many things can now be done in the admin panel danny-orion: here is the place to link the new doc to: http://doc.tiki.org/Interoperability what does Googlebar mod do?	[23:19]
danny-orion	There is something here - http://doc.tiki.org/AdSense It was a template which substituted adsense parameters (meaning you had to pull them out of google code by hand) in a template and I think it was used as a module. I turned it off for a while - so there has been no ad's on orionrobots for months...	[23:20]
	Ok - age old debugging method - I am stuffing lots of error_log (ie printf's) into tiki-edit_banner.php - to see where it gets to before hanging/failing...	[23:29]
marclaporte	danny-orion: will this be your first commit?	[23:36]
danny-orion	I'm sure I've made commits before.. Can't remember what it was - ages ago...	[23:37]
marclaporte	you have commit access: http://sourceforge.net/users/orionrobots	[23:37]
danny-orion	Anyway - if I fix it - yes - I'll commit the changes	[23:37]
marclaporte	but http://tiki.org/copyright.txt doesn't have a record nor does https://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki/contributors?query=orion&sort=commits	[23:37]
danny-orion	Ah. Maybe not then. I thought I'd committed some fix - but it would have been many years back if I did. Perhaps it would be my first.	[23:38]
marclaporte	some commit stats could be lost because of abandoned experimental branch anyway, it's a new beginning :-)	[23:39]
danny-orion	hehe :)	[23:39]
	I'd had a big problem with bogus user registrations - which the upgrade and a few tweaks seem to have calmed right down.	[23:45]
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danny-orion	Okay - and related to this (and why I mentioned it) - that script is getting stuck at the following line: $clients = $userlib->get_users(0, -1, 'login_asc', '');	[23:52]
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