#tikiwiki 2013-03-15,Fri

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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Problem with thumbnails since upgrading to Tiki 10.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=46267	[00:34]
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	Next release meeting is 30mn from now on BBB	[14:32]
ricks99	enuf time for me to get another cup of coffee	[14:33]
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Bsfez	go go go… and for me to throw 10 kids out of my office !!!! :D	[14:36]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03gaxweb r45130 10trunk/ 10lib/smarty_tiki/function.object_link.php 10lib/objectlib.php 10lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.sefurl.php tikiwiki [FIX] article search result topic links were broken	[14:38]
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ricks99	Anyone know if it is possible to do a mailmerge with TikiSheet + Newsletter ? polom jonnyb	[14:42]
jonnyb	hi ricks99 you can do a mail-merge with pretty trackers into newsletters, so maybe if you can get the sheet to list out in a "plain-text" sort of way	[14:42]
ricks99	hmm... export specific column in tikisheet then import into tracker? ill look into it. thanks	[14:43]
jonnyb	no, maybe you can get the sheet plugin to list why you need, then use that page as the data source	[14:44]
ricks99	ah... even cleaner	[14:44]
jonnyb	it was something i added for Geoff ages ago, not sure if it still works	[14:45]
ricks99	but for your interface, was using tracker as source?	[14:45]
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ricks99	okeefe oops	[14:45]
jonnyb	no, wiki page "Import emails from wiki page"	[14:45]
ricks99	is there something on dev or doc?	[14:46]
jonnyb	probably, Geoff's quite good with that sort of thing (unlike me)	[14:46]
ricks99	o. that i've seen. but i want to send via newsletter (with personalization) i'll look. thanks	[14:46]
jonnyb	that bit just gets an email list from a page, only half the story i guess	[14:47]
Bsfez	newsletter exploration is interesting me	[14:47]
ricks99	yeah, what i really want is a way to send mass, customzied emails was thinking of some sort of newsletter template... that uses cell refs... Dear {%name cell from tiki sheet%} something like a real mailmerge ^^^	[14:47]
jonnyb	think that's what he was doing but from a tracker - not sure, sorry	[14:49]
ricks99	thanks	[14:49]
Bsfez	{module} in newsletter do a lot ! i recall seen something working about having username included (very very long time ago)	[14:49]
jonnyb	hi Bsfez - meeting soon in BBB?	[14:50]
Bsfez	yeap yeap !	[14:50]
ricks99	ricks99 wants a real mailmerge solution w/ tikisheets + newsletters	[14:50]
Bsfez	10 mn	[14:50]
ricks99	ricks99 hoping to sneak it in 10.2 without bsfez noticing ;-)	[14:50]
jonnyb	:D	[14:50]
Bsfez	i'm very cool in that matter...	[14:50]
ricks99	:)	[14:51]
Bsfez	what will you send if i may know… i mean what purpose ? tikisheet ? trade ? :D	[14:51]
ricks99	project has an old xls spreadsheet for contacts. have imported to tikisheet and now using that want to be able to send targeted mails (via newsletter) to specific contacts with personalizaton "stanard" mailmerge stuff, really	[14:52]
Bsfez	Mmm ok, wasn't it better to include the list as users so you will have username, email, real name and may be later we can have a lot more ! (like country, language, etc) ?	[14:54]
ricks99	list is not tiki users	[14:54]
Bsfez	5mn countdown yes but list can be imported	[14:54]
ricks99	the list of contacts dont have/need tiki accounts. they're not the users	[14:55]
Bsfez	k and having a way to import list => newsletter subscribers (including some fields)... best would be having a "contact feature"… address book (base on sheet or tracker) 3mn we'll talk at the tikifeast ! :D	[14:55]
ricks99	y, but really more than simply contacts. was using XLS for full back-end accounting, billing, etc. with complex multisheet forumulas +1 tikifest. i'm nowat 75% :)	[14:57]
Bsfez	GOOD !	[14:58]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Next release meeting is 14H00 UTC (30mn for now) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46277	[14:58]
Bsfez	agree	[14:58]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Next release meeting is on BBB (of course) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46276 New Forum Posts: Next Release - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46275	[14:58]
jonnyb	yay, just booked my flights so am 100%	[14:58]
Bsfez	great !	[14:58]
ricks99	woo hoo! bbb server is SSSSLLLLLOOOOWWWW	[14:58]
Bsfez	being in the same flight with u and luci is really cool ! bbb is on !	[14:59]
jonnyb	i'm in	[15:00]
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Telesight	For a secure connection (https) which settings do I have to select beside the ones on the Log in general tab?	[15:48]
ricks99	do you have your ssl certificate configured on the server?	[15:50]
Telesight	rick99: Yes, an untrusted one ofcourse ...	[15:53]
ricks99	untrusted? then your site visitors will receive a warning each time	[15:54]
Telesight	Rick99: Yes I no, but they will be coworkers ... know	[15:54]
ricks99	ok. as long as they dont mind clicking "ignore" each time, u should be good to go	[15:55]
Telesight	You can add it ... I have set "Use HTTPS login:" on the Log in general tab	[15:56]
ricks99	did u set the https-specific port?	[15:58]
Telesight	No I use 443, the standaard one ...	[15:58]
	rick99: I have set "HTTP Basic Authentication:" to SSL Only	[16:07]
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	rick99: other settings?	[16:40]
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Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r45131 10trunk/tiki-sefurl.php tikiwiki [FIX] sefurl/route: Seems that filter_out_sefurl didn't add ? or & at the end of the filtered url (so you can add more params afterwards), that only happened in smarty_modifier_sefurl, so adding it in here too. tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r45132 10trunk/modules/mod-func-categories.php tikiwiki [FIX] route: Correction for categories module using the with_next param in filter_out_sefurl (now it works - thanks Changi) tikiwiki 03tikii18nbot r45133 10trunk/lang/ko/language.php tikiwiki Korean translations done on i18n.tiki.org	[17:32]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Experimental feature use for test : how to check which ones have been activated, consequences, case :{GOOGLEANALYTICS(account=xxxxxxxxx-x)/} - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46279	[18:50]
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budanzel	joined #tikiwiki hello there. I'm trying to open/edit an odf document (odt), but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I've clicked 'edit' and the page shows "loading tiki-download_file.php?fileId=5" forever anyone confirms that webodf is working? I installed tiki mostly because of this feature.	[19:16]
jonnyb	hi budanzel - edit only edits in svg-edit, so just drawings noticed that label the other day - should be clearer	[19:24]
budanzel	jonnyb: i'm talking about webodf i've installed it, uploaded a odt file, and it just refuses to work activated* firebug debugger doesn't show any error	[19:24]
jonnyb	not used that i'm afraid - looks like they both might have the same label (save dev did them i think) brb	[19:25]
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budanzel	also, it doesn't even show the view action for ods files, even if webodt supports it (odt, odp, ods).	[19:34]
	I think this feature is broken.	[19:41]
jonnyb	sorry budanzel, never tried it	[19:42]
budanzel	jonnyb: no problem. however, tiki lacks quality. No offense, it's awesome and I don't want to disrespect anyone, after all it's opensource and free. But on a 'constructive critic' side, i must say that the webmail feature is not usable at all (no imap+encryption, no 'sent' folder, no folders in fact, can't open/donwload attachment, can't forward attachments) and there are a lot of nonfunctional stuff. teh google doc plugin doesn't work also	[19:42]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03changi67 r45134 10trunk/ 10(8 files in 7 dirs) tikiwiki no change - http://qa.tiki.org	[19:48]
	tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r45135 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tikiwiki [FIX] route/services: Use tiki_decodeURIComponent instead of decodeURI in loadService as map locations in tracker_input (for instance) weren't getting decoded properly - thanks LPH tikiwiki Still TODO better and refactor (or add a 3rd party plugin)	[19:54]
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budanzel	any info on webodf?	[20:08]
marclaporte	budanzel: yes budanzel: what is on your mind?	[20:09]
budanzel	marclaporte: does it support ods atm? the file listings doesn't display the view action for ods files in fact not even odt are working atm, but at least the actions are there (view/edit)	[20:10]
marclaporte	budanzel: WebDOF integration is very very basic but promising for the future which version are you on?	[20:12]
budanzel	marclaporte: 10.1 i thought this feature were stable already marclaporte: also, i've read the dev page on webmail (the actual one really sucks :D ) and i've noticed you can't integrate gpl licensed stuff, why? the current one*	[20:13]
marclaporte	because we are LGPL WebODF integration was "state of the art" (sorta) when we first integrated but WebODF evolve quite a bit but nobody has upgraded in Tiki I refreshed http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php -> Can we try your file here?	[20:18]
budanzel	the ods?	[20:19]
marclaporte	yes	[20:21]
budanzel	it seems there's another ods file there already, and it doesn't show the view action, i'm going to upload mine in any case	[20:22]
marclaporte	http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast and http://doc.tiki.org/Draw are more robust integrations than WebMail and WebODF	[20:22]
budanzel	strangely, my file is shown as zip.	[20:23]
marclaporte	WebODF: we just need a dev to do a bit more work. 1- get latest code from WebODF project and 2- add some buttons to make the UI more obvious (save, edit, download) budanzel: try a .odt	[20:23]
budanzel	it works :) also, the google doc plugin is very easy to fix, it uses an iframe and the problem is just the address is wrong. i'm much more interested in this webodf though :)	[20:24]
marclaporte	hehe	[20:26]
budanzel	I hope it gets usable soon. marclaporte: thank you for your time	[20:26]
marclaporte	ok, well, start with the easy fix :-)	[20:26]
budanzel	:)	[20:26]
marclaporte	what is your SourceForge username?	[20:26]
budanzel	marclaporte: none :)	[20:26]
marclaporte	So WebODF should work on odt, odf and ods, but Tiki only detects odt Needs a little tweak to detect format and launch WebODF in all three cases ok, this is a good time to get one	[20:26]
budanzel	sure it is.	[20:27]
marclaporte	and if you can find a jQuery webmail front-end that could replace what we have, that would be awesome. Last time I looked, I didn't find anything	[20:27]
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changi	budanzel: if you have the correct url i can fix it	[20:28]
marclaporte	On the back-end, we have http://framework.zend.com/manual/1.12/en/zend.mail.html so we should be OK Here are examples of front-ends: https://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/ https://code.google.com/p/jquerysheet/ http://arshaw.com/fullcalendar/ http://elfinder.org/	[20:28]
budanzel	changi: i've quickly fixed it with firebug, but i've already closed the tab. just a moment please.	[20:29]
changi	budanzel: ok	[20:29]
marclaporte	budanzel: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=5 works	[20:35]
budanzel	marclaporte: yes, that's an odt file. odts seems to be working flaslessly, they aren't working in my local install though	[20:36]
marclaporte	budanzel: what is your OS?	[20:37]
budanzel	marclaporte: linux CentOS hehe, i've tried to load tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=1 (id1 is an ods file) but it refuses to work :). I knew it woudn't be that easy	[20:37]
marclaporte	ahhahaha ok, visit tiki-check.php on your instance let's see if there are tips	[20:39]
budanzel	ok. just a moment please.	[20:42]
marclaporte	I suspect you don't have fileinfo.	[20:42]
budanzel	nope, it's loaded in fact.	[20:42]
marclaporte	"strangely, my file is shown as zip." I have a vague recollection about this ok, do you see any warnings?	[20:42]
budanzel	nope, the only 'unknown' on upload_tmp_dir	[20:43]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4397 - - LdaP External Groups Being Flagged as Internal - http://dev.tiki.org/item4397 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4398 - - LdaP External Groups Being Flagged as Internal - http://dev.tiki.org/item4398	[20:43]
budanzel	everything else, is good/safe	[20:43]
marclaporte	can you turn off fileinfo just to see?	[20:44]
budanzel	marclaporte: sure.	[20:45]
	it seems the extension is enabled globally, can i disable it in the local php.ini? anyway, I don't think that's the problem, because it shows the display/edit actions, it seems to fail to load it somehow. even though in firebug the webodt script seems to load the data properly	[20:51]
	is http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=5 working? It's not working for me any longer. both firefox and chrome	[20:57]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Unable to post comments in blog - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=46280	[21:00]
changi	budanzel: working for me with chrome	[21:05]
budanzel	changi: yes, it's working here also, it just took a lot of time to load. changi: in fact, the googledoc plugin is working, the problem wasn't the url but the bad parameters generated from the gui button (spreadsheet instead of sheet, etc.) what isn't working is the 'edit' button in this case the url is wrong. it points to 'http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=XYZ' instead of 'https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=XYZ'	[21:05]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: doc.tiki.org feature list (which is populated from tracckers) is not appearing - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46281	[21:10]
budanzel	changi	[21:14]
changi	budanzel: yes ! changi: fixing your url problem :)	[21:14]
budanzel	lil' test :D http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php?page=googledoc+test changi: awesome news :D	[21:15]
changi	budanzel: in fact the old url is working for me	[21:18]
budanzel	changi: to edit? the published version url is like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=, the editable is like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=	[21:19]
changi	budanzel: no the link on googledoc is working for me	[21:19]
budanzel	yes, the old url seems to work fine. the problem is the GUI button. but the url to edit the document isn't working	[21:20]
changi	budanzel: ok find where it was, (sorry i'm a little slow tonight)	[21:21]
budanzel	in this case the url is /ccc and not /pub (/pub is just an html version of the document)	[21:21]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03changi67 r45136 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php tikiwiki [FIX] use a more recente URL + edit url is with ccc and not pub, thx budanzel	[21:28]
budanzel	changi: hey :D thank you	[21:29]
changi	budanzel: you're welcome	[21:29]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03changi67 r45137 10branches/10.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45136][FIX] use a more recente URL + edit url is with ccc and not pub, thx budanzel tikiwiki 03changi67 r45138 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php	[21:30]
changi	it's easy to commit.	[21:30]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45136][FIX] use a more recente URL + edit url is with ccc and not pub, thx budanzel	[21:30]
marclaporte	budanzel: ok, but next time, you commit directly stuff like this :-) (which is why we need your SourceForge.net username)	[21:33]
budanzel	marclaporte: yes, sure I will. :) changi: also, i've added you to the doc permissions. another problem easy to fix is the google docs GUI button.	[21:33]
changi	budanzel: what do you mean ?	[21:35]
budanzel	changi: you've requested permission to use the spreadsheet.	[21:36]
changi	budanzel: about the GUI button !	[21:36]
budanzel	changi: the gui button for google doc plugin generates wrong code	[21:37]
changi	could you be more precise ?	[21:38]
budanzel	here: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php?page=googledoc+test the bottom one is the one generated by the gui button, the parameter type is "spreadsheet", it doesn't work, the proper one is only "sheet" by "gui button" i mean that button on the editor toolbar	[21:38]
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changi	budanzel: i don't see it	[21:41]
budanzel	changi: don't see what?	[21:41]
changi	the gui button	[21:41]
budanzel	http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-editpage.php?page=googledoc+test, on the first row. you have to be logged of course	[21:42]
changi	ok now i see it :)	[21:43]
budanzel	in fact, the code reads "speadsheet" :) lemme see if "spReadsheet" works yes, it works, in this case it's only a simple typo the button generated code has a typo - "speadsheet", not "spReadsheet"	[21:43]
changi	budanzel: fixed	[21:46]
budanzel	nice. it's a pity tiki wiki can't integrate gpl'ed stuff. it would be awesome to have something like roundcube :(	[21:47]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03changi67 r45139 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php tikiwiki [FIX] Typo, thx budanzel	[21:48]
changi	budanzel: do you have another quick fix to do ?	[21:49]
budanzel	changi: nope :)	[21:50]
Tiki-KGB	tikiwiki 03changi67 r45140 10branches/10.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45139][FIX] Typo, thx budanzel tikiwiki 03changi67 r45141 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googledoc.php tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45139][FIX] Typo, thx budanzel	[21:50]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Next Release meeting summary - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46282	[21:50]
marclaporte	budanzel: well, RoundCube license is not simple	[21:51]
budanzel	marclaporte: I see. they have mixed licenses	[21:52]
marclaporte	http://roundcube.net/license yeah I don't want people to make bad design choices to respect licenses	[21:54]
budanzel	anyway, there are plenty of alternatives, they are all gpl'ed though :)	[21:56]
marclaporte	well, if something fits, we can ask the authors about the license for example, IMP webmail did a lot of work on v5: http://www.horde.org/apps/imp/roadmap They are moving to jQuery Mobile: http://www.horde.org/papers/MergingHordeJQM.pdf We are using jQuery Mobile since Tiki7	[21:57]
budanzel	horde is another good groupware in fact, I was trying to install it instead tiki :). it's impossible to install though so I gave up I'm using roundcube at the moment however, because the tiki webmail is unusable.	[22:06]
changi	marclaporte: i've just tested the jquery-migrate tool, we have a lot to do :(	[22:17]
budanzel	changi: good gee. are you an aircraft pilot? :)	[22:19]
changi	budanzel: no, why ?	[22:23]
budanzel	you look like an aviator in the picture of your google account :)	[22:24]
changi	budanzel: yep you're right, it was a gift. It's pretty cool	[22:28]
budanzel	awesome	[22:29]
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marclaporte	changi: oh! budanzel: yeah, webmail needs some TLC... marclaporte wonders if we should merge webmail and messages	[22:46]
budanzel	what do you mean by 'merge'? like, use the messages interface for email stuff?	[22:48]
marclaporte	use common code for both so interface is similar and it's presumably less work to maintain And depending on permissions, a user could be allowed to use one, the other, or both changi: how many things to change?	[22:52]
changi	attr => prop, upgrade most of our jquery plugin to be compatible like colorbox / superfish the most problematic is attr('checked') and live which are used all arround the code marclaporte: i can start doing it in trunk if you want. but tomorrow. need to sleep see ya	[22:54]
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	new to tikiwiki. Is a tikiwiki installation tied to a specific domain name, or just relative paths? What do I need to change in the db or config to move an installation from one domain name to another?	[23:32]

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