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[14:32] Bsfez Next release meeting is 30mn from now on BBB
[14:33] ricks99 enuf time for me to get another cup of coffee
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[14:36] Bsfez go go go… and for me to throw 10 kids out of my office !!!! :D
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[14:41] jonnyb polom
[14:42] ricks99 Anyone know if it is possible to do a mailmerge with TikiSheet + Newsletter ?
[14:42] ricks99 polom jonnyb
[14:42] jonnyb hi ricks99
[14:43] jonnyb you can do a mail-merge with pretty trackers into newsletters, so maybe
[14:43] jonnyb if you can get the sheet to list out in a "plain-text" sort of way
[14:43] ricks99 hmm... export specific column in tikisheet then import into tracker?
[14:44] ricks99 ill look into it. thanks
[14:44] jonnyb no, maybe you can get the sheet plugin to list why you need, then use that page as the data source
[14:44] ricks99 ah... even cleaner
[14:45] jonnyb it was something i added for Geoff ages ago, not sure if it still works
[14:45] ricks99 but for your interface, was using tracker as source?
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[14:45] ricks99 okeefe
[14:45] ricks99 oops
[14:45] jonnyb no, wiki page
[14:46] jonnyb "Import emails from wiki page"
[14:46] ricks99 is there something on dev or doc?
[14:46] jonnyb probably, Geoff's quite good with that sort of thing (unlike me)
[14:46] ricks99 o. that i've seen. but i want to send via newsletter (with personalization)
[14:46] ricks99 i'll look. thanks
[14:47] jonnyb that bit just gets an email list from a page, only half the story i guess
[14:47] Bsfez newsletter exploration is interesting me
[14:47] ricks99 yeah, what i really want is a way to send mass, customzied emails
[14:48] ricks99 was thinking of some sort of newsletter template...
[14:48] ricks99 that uses cell refs...
[14:48] ricks99 Dear {%name cell from tiki sheet%}
[14:48] ricks99 something like a real mailmerge ^^^
[14:49] jonnyb think that's what he was doing but from a tracker - not sure, sorry
[14:49] ricks99 thanks
[14:49] Bsfez {module} in newsletter do a lot !
[14:49] Bsfez i recall seen something working about having username included
[14:49] Bsfez (very very long time ago)
[14:50] jonnyb hi Bsfez - meeting soon in BBB?
[14:50] Bsfez yeap yeap !
[14:50] * ricks99 wants a real mailmerge solution w/ tikisheets + newsletters
[14:50] Bsfez 10 mn
[14:50] * ricks99 hoping to sneak it in 10.2 without bsfez noticing ;-)
[14:50] jonnyb :D
[14:50] Bsfez i'm very cool in that matter...
[14:51] ricks99 :)
[14:51] Bsfez what will you send if i may know… i mean what purpose ? tikisheet ?
[14:51] Bsfez trade ? :D
[14:52] ricks99 project has an old xls spreadsheet for contacts. have imported to tikisheet and now using that
[14:52] ricks99 want to be able to send targeted mails (via newsletter) to specific contacts
[14:53] ricks99 with personalizaton
[14:53] ricks99 "stanard" mailmerge stuff, really
[14:54] Bsfez Mmm ok, wasn't it better to include the list as users so you will have username, email, real name and may be later we can have a lot more ! (like country, language, etc)
[14:54] Bsfez ?
[14:54] ricks99 list is not tiki users
[14:54] Bsfez 5mn countdown
[14:54] Bsfez yes but list can be imported
[14:55] ricks99 the list of contacts dont have/need tiki accounts. they're not the users
[14:55] Bsfez k
[14:56] Bsfez and having a way to import list => newsletter subscribers (including some fields)...
[14:57] Bsfez best would be having a "contact feature"… address book (base on sheet or tracker)
[14:57] Bsfez 3mn
[14:57] Bsfez we'll talk at the tikifeast ! :D
[14:57] ricks99 y, but really more than simply contacts. was using XLS for full back-end accounting, billing, etc. with complex multisheet forumulas
[14:58] ricks99 +1 tikifest. i'm nowat 75% :)
[14:58] Bsfez GOOD !
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[14:58] Bsfez agree
[14:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Next release meeting is on BBB (of course) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46276
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[14:58] jonnyb yay, just booked my flights so am 100%
[14:58] Bsfez great !
[14:58] ricks99 woo hoo!
[14:58] ricks99 bbb server is SSSSLLLLLOOOOWWWW
[14:59] Bsfez being in the same flight with u and luci is really cool !
[14:59] Bsfez bbb is on !
[15:00] jonnyb i'm in
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[15:48] Telesight For a secure connection (https) which settings do I have to select beside the ones on the Log in general tab?
[15:50] ricks99 do you have your ssl certificate configured on the server?
[15:53] Telesight rick99: Yes, an untrusted one ofcourse ...
[15:54] ricks99 untrusted? then your site visitors will receive a warning each time
[15:54] Telesight Rick99: Yes I no, but they will be coworkers ...
[15:55] Telesight know
[15:55] ricks99 ok. as long as they dont mind clicking "ignore" each time, u should be good to go
[15:56] Telesight You can add it ...
[15:57] Telesight I have set "Use HTTPS login:" on the Log in general tab
[15:58] ricks99 did u set the https-specific port?
[15:58] Telesight No I use 443, the standaard one ...
[16:07] Telesight rick99: I have set "HTTP Basic Authentication:" to SSL Only
[16:40] Telesight rick99: other settings?
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[18:50] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Experimental feature use for test : how to check which ones have been activated, consequences, case :\{GOOGLEANALYTICS(account=xxxxxxxxx-x)/\} - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46279
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[19:17] budanzel hello there. I'm trying to open/edit an odf document (odt), but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I've clicked 'edit' and the page shows "loading tiki-download_file.php?fileId=5" forever
[19:17] budanzel anyone confirms that webodf is working?
[19:17] budanzel I installed tiki mostly because of this feature.
[19:24] jonnyb hi budanzel - edit only edits in svg-edit, so just drawings
[19:24] jonnyb noticed that label the other day - should be clearer
[19:24] budanzel jonnyb: i'm talking about webodf
[19:25] budanzel i've installed it, uploaded a odt file, and it just refuses to work
[19:25] budanzel activated*
[19:25] budanzel firebug debugger doesn't show any error
[19:25] jonnyb not used that i'm afraid - looks like they both might have the same label (save dev did them i think)
[19:25] jonnyb brb
[19:31] jonnyb b
[19:34] budanzel also, it doesn't even show the view action for ods files, even if webodt supports it (odt, odp, ods).
[19:41] budanzel I think this feature is broken.
[19:42] jonnyb sorry budanzel, never tried it
[19:42] budanzel jonnyb: no problem.
[19:45] budanzel however, tiki lacks quality. No offense, it's awesome and I don't want to disrespect anyone, after all it's opensource and free. But on a 'constructive critic' side, i must say that the webmail feature is not usable at all (no imap+encryption, no 'sent' folder, no folders in fact, can't open/donwload attachment, can't forward attachments) and there are a lot of nonfunctional stuff.
[19:46] budanzel teh google doc plugin doesn't work also
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[19:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Still TODO better and refactor (or add a 3rd party plugin)
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[20:08] budanzel any info on webodf?
[20:09] marclaporte budanzel: yes
[20:09] marclaporte budanzel: what is on your mind?
[20:10] budanzel marclaporte: does it support ods atm?
[20:10] budanzel the file listings doesn't display the view action for ods files
[20:11] budanzel in fact not even odt are working atm, but at least the actions are there (view/edit)
[20:12] marclaporte budanzel: WebDOF integration is very very basic
[20:12] marclaporte but promising for the future
[20:12] marclaporte which version are you on?
[20:13] budanzel marclaporte: 10.1
[20:13] budanzel i thought this feature were stable already
[20:17] budanzel marclaporte: also, i've read the dev page on webmail (the actual one really sucks :D ) and i've noticed you can't integrate gpl licensed stuff, why?
[20:17] budanzel the current one*
[20:18] marclaporte because we are LGPL
[20:19] marclaporte WebODF integration was "state of the art" (sorta) when we first integrated but WebODF evolve quite a bit but nobody has upgraded in Tiki
[20:19] marclaporte I refreshed http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php  -> Can we try your file here?
[20:19] budanzel the ods?
[20:21] marclaporte yes
[20:22] budanzel it seems there's another ods file there already, and it doesn't show the view action, i'm going to upload mine in any case
[20:22] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast and http://doc.tiki.org/Draw are more robust integrations than WebMail and WebODF
[20:23] budanzel strangely, my file is shown as zip.
[20:23] marclaporte WebODF: we just need a dev to do a bit more work.  1- get latest code from WebODF project and 2- add some buttons to make the UI more obvious (save, edit, download)
[20:23] marclaporte budanzel: try a .odt
[20:24] budanzel it works :)
[20:25] budanzel also, the google doc plugin is very easy to fix, it uses an iframe and the problem is just the address is wrong.
[20:25] budanzel i'm much more interested in this webodf though :)
[20:26] marclaporte hehe
[20:26] budanzel I hope it gets usable soon.
[20:26] budanzel marclaporte: thank you for your time
[20:26] marclaporte ok, well, start with the easy fix :-)
[20:26] budanzel :)
[20:26] marclaporte what is your SourceForge username?
[20:26] budanzel marclaporte: none :)
[20:26] marclaporte So WebODF should work on odt, odf and ods, but Tiki only detects odt   Needs a little tweak to detect format and launch WebODF in all three cases
[20:26] marclaporte ok, this is a good time to get one
[20:27] budanzel sure it is.
[20:27] marclaporte and if you can find a jQuery webmail front-end that could replace what we have, that would be awesome. Last time I looked, I didn't find anything
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[20:28] changi budanzel: if you have the correct url i can fix it
[20:28] marclaporte On the back-end, we have http://framework.zend.com/manual/1.12/en/zend.mail.html so we should be OK
[20:29] marclaporte Here are examples of front-ends:   https://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/  https://code.google.com/p/jquerysheet/   http://arshaw.com/fullcalendar/  http://elfinder.org/
[20:29] budanzel changi: i've quickly fixed it with firebug, but i've already closed the tab. just a moment please.
[20:29] changi budanzel: ok
[20:35] marclaporte budanzel: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=5 works
[20:36] budanzel marclaporte: yes, that's an odt file. odts seems to be working flaslessly, they aren't working in my local install though
[20:37] marclaporte budanzel: what is your OS?
[20:37] budanzel marclaporte: linux CentOS
[20:39] budanzel hehe, i've tried to load tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=1 (id1 is an ods file) but it refuses to work :). I knew it woudn't be that easy
[20:39] marclaporte ahhahaha
[20:39] marclaporte ok, visit tiki-check.php on your instance
[20:39] marclaporte let's see if there are tips
[20:42] budanzel ok. just a moment please.
[20:42] marclaporte I suspect you don't have fileinfo.
[20:42] budanzel nope, it's loaded in fact.
[20:42] marclaporte "strangely, my file is shown as zip."  I have a vague recollection about this
[20:43] marclaporte ok, do you see any warnings?
[20:43] budanzel nope, the only 'unknown' on upload_tmp_dir
[20:43] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4397 - - LdaP External Groups Being Flagged as Internal  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4397
[20:43] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4398 - - LdaP External Groups Being Flagged as Internal  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4398
[20:43] budanzel everything else, is good/safe
[20:44] marclaporte can you turn off fileinfo just to see?
[20:45] budanzel marclaporte: sure.
[20:51] budanzel it seems the extension is enabled globally, can i disable it in the local php.ini?
[20:52] budanzel anyway, I don't think that's the problem, because it shows the display/edit actions, it seems to fail to load it somehow.
[20:52] budanzel even though in firebug the webodt script seems to load the data properly
[20:57] budanzel is http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-edit_docs.php?fileId=5 working? It's not working for me any longer. both firefox and chrome
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[21:05] changi budanzel: working for me with chrome
[21:05] budanzel changi: yes, it's working here also, it just took a lot of time to load.
[21:06] budanzel changi: in fact, the googledoc plugin is working, the problem wasn't the url but the bad parameters generated from the gui button (spreadsheet instead of sheet, etc.)
[21:07] budanzel what isn't working is the 'edit' button
[21:07] budanzel in this case the url is wrong.
[21:09] budanzel it points to 'http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=XYZ' instead of 'https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=XYZ'
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[21:14] budanzel changi
[21:14] changi budanzel: yes !
[21:14] changi changi: fixing your url problem :)
[21:15] budanzel lil' test :D http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php?page=googledoc+test
[21:15] budanzel changi: awesome news :D
[21:18] changi budanzel: in fact the old url is working for me
[21:19] budanzel changi: to edit?
[21:19] budanzel the published version url is like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=, the editable is like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=
[21:19] changi budanzel: no the link on googledoc is working for me
[21:20] budanzel yes, the old url seems to work fine. the problem is the GUI button.
[21:21] budanzel but the url to edit the document isn't working
[21:21] changi budanzel: ok find where it was, (sorry i'm a little slow tonight)
[21:21] budanzel in this case the url is /ccc and not /pub (/pub is just an html version of the document)
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[21:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] use a more recente URL + edit url is with ccc and not pub, thx budanzel
[21:29] budanzel changi: hey :D thank you
[21:29] changi budanzel: you're welcome
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[21:30] changi it's easy to commit.
[21:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45136][FIX] use a more recente URL + edit url is with ccc and not pub, thx budanzel
[21:33] marclaporte budanzel: ok, but next time, you commit directly stuff like this :-)  (which is why we need your SourceForge.net username)
[21:33] budanzel marclaporte: yes, sure I will. :)
[21:33] budanzel changi: also, i've added you to the doc permissions.
[21:34] budanzel another problem easy to fix is the google docs GUI button.
[21:35] changi budanzel: what do you mean ?
[21:36] budanzel changi: you've requested permission to use the spreadsheet.
[21:36] changi budanzel: about the GUI button !
[21:37] budanzel changi: the gui button for google doc plugin generates wrong code
[21:38] changi could you be more precise ?
[21:38] budanzel here: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php?page=googledoc+test the bottom one is the one generated by the gui button, the parameter type is "spreadsheet", it doesn't work, the proper one is only "sheet"
[21:40] budanzel by "gui button" i mean that button on the editor toolbar
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[21:41] changi budanzel: i don't see it
[21:41] budanzel changi: don't see what?
[21:41] changi the gui button
[21:42] budanzel http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-editpage.php?page=googledoc+test, on the first row.
[21:42] budanzel you have to be logged of course
[21:43] changi ok now i see it :)
[21:43] budanzel in fact, the code reads "speadsheet" :)
[21:44] budanzel lemme see if "spReadsheet" works
[21:44] budanzel yes, it works, in this case it's only a simple typo
[21:45] budanzel the button generated code has a typo - "speadsheet", not "spReadsheet"
[21:46] changi budanzel: fixed
[21:47] budanzel nice. it's a pity tiki wiki can't integrate gpl'ed stuff. it would be awesome to have something like roundcube :(
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[21:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Typo, thx budanzel
[21:49] changi budanzel: do you have another quick fix to do ?
[21:50] budanzel changi: nope :)
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[21:50] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45139][FIX] Typo, thx budanzel
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[21:50] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [BP/trunk@45139][FIX] Typo, thx budanzel
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[21:51] marclaporte budanzel: well, RoundCube license is not simple
[21:52] budanzel marclaporte: I see. they have mixed licenses
[21:54] marclaporte http://roundcube.net/license
[21:54] marclaporte yeah
[21:55] marclaporte I don't want people to make bad design choices to respect licenses
[21:56] budanzel anyway, there are plenty of alternatives, they are all gpl'ed though :)
[21:57] marclaporte well, if something fits, we can ask the authors about the license
[21:58] marclaporte for example, IMP webmail did a lot of work on v5: http://www.horde.org/apps/imp/roadmap
[22:02] marclaporte They are moving to jQuery Mobile: http://www.horde.org/papers/MergingHordeJQM.pdf
[22:05] marclaporte We are using jQuery Mobile since Tiki7
[22:06] budanzel horde is another good groupware
[22:06] budanzel in fact, I was trying to install it instead tiki :).
[22:06] budanzel it's impossible to install though
[22:06] budanzel so I gave up
[22:10] budanzel I'm using roundcube at the moment however, because the tiki webmail is unusable.
[22:17] changi marclaporte: i've just tested the jquery-migrate tool, we have a lot to do :(
[22:19] budanzel changi: good gee. are you an aircraft pilot? :)
[22:23] changi budanzel: no, why ?
[22:24] budanzel you look like an aviator in the picture of your google account :)
[22:28] changi budanzel: yep you're right, it was a gift. It's pretty cool
[22:29] budanzel awesome
[22:46] marclaporte changi: oh!
[22:47] marclaporte budanzel: yeah, webmail needs some TLC...
[22:47] * marclaporte wonders if we should merge webmail and messages
[22:48] budanzel what do you mean by 'merge'?
[22:49] budanzel like, use the messages interface for email stuff?
[22:52] marclaporte use common code for both
[22:52] marclaporte so interface is similar
[22:53] marclaporte and it's presumably less work to maintain
[22:53] marclaporte And depending on permissions, a user could be allowed to use one, the other, or both
[22:53] marclaporte changi: how many things to change?
[22:54] changi attr => prop, upgrade most of our jquery plugin to be compatible
[22:54] changi like colorbox / superfish
[22:57] changi the most problematic is attr('checked') and live which are used all arround the code
[23:00] changi marclaporte: i can start doing it in trunk if you want. but tomorrow.
[23:00] changi need to sleep
[23:00] changi see ya
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[23:32] JoshEaton new to tikiwiki. Is a tikiwiki installation tied to a specific domain name, or just relative paths? What do I need to change in the db or config to move an installation from one domain name to another?