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PenguinMan98: ok
fabricius: fin
<br> fine
<br> so you have some good basics now, not only for Tiki ... some basic idea of user and rights management with categories
<br> good to have such basic info when you start - saves time when you do not need to reconfigure so much before launch or at least you know how and where
<br> and good to categorise the content from start
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PenguinMan98: Yes. This has been an immense help
<br> I just hope I don't have to go through this much training for each different module
<br> hehe
fabricius1: on the other hand, you might play thoughful and maybe you can use the playground for further development, if you do not missconfigure too havily
<br> <u>PenguinMan98</u>: in my point of view, Tiki is very consistent compared to other systems
<br> due to the all-in-one model, every where things work similar
<br> OK, very special poweful features like Trackers need decent learning (and help of the community ;-) )
<br> but if you want to categorise a wikipage, an article or a forum ... the principles are the same all over the place
<br> and where you applied the category permissions for the wikipages, you aplly also the category permissions for all features
PenguinMan98: very very cool
<br> does the groups plugin work in the fourms/articles?
fabricius: <u>PenguinMan98</u>: once you know one feature or functionality, the next one is easier to learn ... and soon you start to be able to help othes or to do documentation or translation ... start from the right place and go forward step by step ... the most difficult is not the software, but it is the general idea how a CMS in general, a website in general should be structured ... Tiki is quite easy, but VERY VERY big
PenguinMan98: or just the wiki pages?
fabricius: mainly all wiki plugins work everywhere, where wikisyntax is working, so yes (well, in articles it makes no sense and in forums mayb in announcements
<br> so in theory it should even work in messages, but I am not sure
PenguinMan98: right right.
<br> Do you have time to field another question"
<br> ?
fabricius: allways specific things can have specific concept related fallbacks ...
<br> Ok, another question
PenguinMan98: I have a homebrew php ajax chat program. I want to integrate this into the tikiwiki. At first, only as far as logging into one logs you into both but eventually I do want to be able to invoke text from the wiki in the chat.
fabricius: <u>btw</u>: for forums and messages you'd like the quote plugin and for articles the fancy table ... everywhere the images or mediaplayer etc.
PenguinMan98: Right now though, I just need to know if there is a built in way to handle the integrated login
fabricius: hmmmm
<br> so really integrate instead of connect
<br> connect could be via http login
PenguinMan98: I want to allow guests to see the chat without forcing them to log in
fabricius: here are the possible configs: tiki-admin.php?page=login
<br> so anonymous see chat, but reggies can participate?
PenguinMan98: Guests can create a temporary chat name and participate but they don't get advanced features
<br> like muting/highlighting/character profiles, etc
fabricius: hmm
PenguinMan98: the website is www.mlpnwrp.org. It runs now with a PHPBB
<br> I'm replacing the PHPBB with the wiki
fabricius: ok
<br> you have a "long" message "you ar not logged in"
<br> nearly clicked back
<br> but anyway
<br> you want to keep the guest login, but make the Tiki user a chat user
PenguinMan98: Yeah. I need to fix that
fabricius: ??
PenguinMan98: Pretty much
<br> If I log in in the chat, I want to log them into the tiki
fabricius: does the chat software use a mysql database?
PenguinMan98: yes
<br> It integrates right now with the PHPBB
<br> When I log into the chat, it logs them into the PHPBB
fabricius: hmmm sounds like to make the chat a custom feature for the Tiki
<br> we have something similar but the other way round for bigbluebutton
PenguinMan98: I was thinking that sounded like a lot more work than just building an authentication script that logs them into the tiki
fabricius: BBB is a classroom software
PenguinMan98: ok
fabricius: when you login into Tiki, you can login to the BBB session by just pushing a button and you are then moderator instead of guest
<br> similar would be: login to Tiki and push "join chat"
<br> see here: http://tiki.org/live
<br> you could review the code and see how this integration is made from Tiki
<br> and you could share the usetable of the Tiki database (I think that should work)
<br> usertable
<br> maybe you just add the chat mysql tables to the Tiki database, which should not be affected on upgrades - must be tested, but should work afaik
<br> then you share the database and the uses table
<br> something like that
<br> hummm BBB is integrated less tight
<br> you should start to review the code and later ask marclaporte, who made the BBB integration for further questions
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PenguinMan98: Heh
fabricius: hi marclaporte
PenguinMan98: Speak his name and here he is
marclaporte: polom
fabricius: just mentioned your name
<br> wolod
<br> wuhhh you just have a huge bunch of work with the bugtracker-wishlist
PenguinMan98: See, then we've forced the players to register with the wiki to view the chat. I don't want that
astroo-: hello
PenguinMan98: I just need a script that can send post variables to a routine inside TIKI that will log the user in and return an array or object containing that users permissions level and id#
<br> PHPBB comes with that already written
<br> It was very easy to write the integration script
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fabricius: hummm
<br> you mean, that Tiki uses the user table of the chat AND does a real single sign on?
<br> look, we have alright Intertiki to share the user management of one master Tiki between this one and a number of clients/slaves
<br> uses xmlrpc
<br> but not a real single sign on
<br> afaik still not sign in across subdomains and sessions
<br> need to sign in individually per page
<br> marclaporte, did I read something about some single sign on according Intertiki across domains/subdomains/sessions?
<br> I mean, is there something further developed yet?
PenguinMan98: I don't need Tiki to use a different user table. It can keep its own table. I just want to send it a username and password, have it verify the login, and return the id and permissions info
fabricius: hmmm you surely realise, that this is not my field of special experience ... but there are two different aspects: login against Tiki (maybe with an added optional authentication type) and being logged in in Tiki and chat the same time
<br> with only one action
<br> (did I say this right in English?)
PenguinMan98: I don't see it that way. They are either logged in, or they aren't.
<br> I want to send a username/password to Tiki and have it return an id from its internal user table. If it does return one, then I have a valid login. If it doesn't then it's a bad un/pw combination
<br> If I can get that much, I can work with it.
<br> But I'd eventually want a way to ask Tiki what that users' permissions level is. Though if I know the id, I'm sure I can query that from the mysql
<br> Otherwise I'll have to spend the time and work out how to integrate the chat into a page inside the wiki and that sounds like a headache
<br> bbl
luciash: polom
<br> any idea if there is a way to avoid realname use in tracker user selector field when the feature is on ?
astroo-: ola
<br> hello
luciash: mainly need this for pretty templates to compose links to Foo?tr_user={$f_XX} where XX is the user selector field id
<br> hi astroo-
<br> obviously the link does not work when user has a real name set in preferences
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luciash: my questions are always unanswerable :-p
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astroo-: bye people
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PenguinMan98: wb fabricius
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PenguinMan98: wow. I need to get to bed
<br> anybody know really quick, If I can't assign permissions to individual users, can I assign users into defined categories?
<br> Nooo.... I see now. Objects are grouped by 'category' but users are grouped by 'groups'
<br> hmmmm...
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PenguinMan98: damn, I'm gonna need to start drawing diagrams to get this damn permission stuff right
<br> adios for the night dudes
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<br> polom y'all
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<br> tikiwiki Thanks marclaporte
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<br> tikiwiki Also use any domain to be assigned to the default perspective 0 in order to leave areas with "share common" turned off (thanks marclaporte)
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PenguinMan98: hehe.
<br> I'm psyched because last night I totally slam dunked the permissions system
<br> I'll have to write up a doc on how I did it and post it up on doc.tiki
<br> The documentation there and on tiki for smarties is pretty good, but I think I can explain it more clearly with better examples. Many thanks go to fabricius for helping me get my categories set up
<br> oh hey rick99, no disrespect intended of course
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PenguinMan98: But hey, as long as you're here, is your tiki for smarties open to be updated by newbies like myself who are finding difficulty understanding the current docs?
<br> Just because we eat our own dog food doesn't mean we can't sweeten it up a bit for outsiders
lphuberdeau: feel free to improve doc.tiki.org as much as you want
xavi: +1
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xavi: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: commit coming. I hope I didn't forget anything (it works for me)
ricks99: go for it. tiki for smarites is CC... please improve as you can
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PenguinMan98: @ ricks99 http://screencast.com/t/4goCU98102rP
<br> Using Chrome in Win 8
<br> Using FF: http://screencast.com/t/CCDLlZpqIN
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ricks99: <u>PenguinMan98</u>: sorry for issues. i'll take a look. in meantime use http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Contact+Us and I'll create account for you
<br> bbl
changi|back: polom
PenguinMan98: wolod
<br> form submitted ricks99|away
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<br> hello people
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PenguinMan98: hey astroo-
astroo-: hello
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