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[12:13] Tiki|bot Info: Nouveau : Découvrez le programme d'affiliation d'hébergement Web Tiki - http://info.tiki.org/article218-Nouveau-Decouvrez-le-programme-d-affiliation-d-hebergement-Web-Tiki [12:15] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: can't make URI links in bibliography work - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=47602 [12:46] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: WikiSym+OpenSym 2013, Hong Kong, August 5-7 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=47603 [13:00] arildb joined #tikiwiki [14:10] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46329 10branches/11.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php [14:10] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] files: If $newName is supplied use it, otherwise add " copy" to the source name [14:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46330 10branches/11.x/lib/jquery_tiki/elfinder/elFinderVolumeTikiFiles.class.php [14:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: Add copy function which now makes paste and duplicate work (thanks Xavi) [16:05] dabright joined #tikiwiki [16:13] arildb Hi, I am trying to auto-fill in a tracker itemLink. It links to a name in a different tracker. However, the itemLink requires the itemId. I only have the name. Is there a way to resolve this? [16:16] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46331 10branches/11.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php [16:16] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] wysiwyg: Add mouseover to plugins not to render (thanks Geoff) [16:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46332 10branches/11.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_carousel.php [16:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] carousel: Set the size of the containing div if displaySize is set to an integer and hide the captions to make the page load tidier. Make a few more params "advanced" and correct some descriptions. [17:05] arildb I need to fill in the itemId in the itemLink value, but I only have the name (it links to). Using a pretty tracker and Tiki9. Tried {$f_itemId} but that doesn't resolve to a value, nor does {$ins_itemId}. Any ideas how I can find the itemId [17:07] arildb also I am using a wiki page for the pretty tracker template [17:53] Telesight Hello, is it possible to create, as admin, a wikipage for a user? [17:57] arildb I found a solution. by enabling the feature wiki_argvariables I can use {{itemId}} ... [18:00] fabricius hi Telesight [18:00] Telesight fabricius: Hello [18:00] fabricius why not? you can create wiki pages ... do you mean ((User:username))? [18:03] fabricius I must try to answer, if you mean that ... what you mean instead? ... hmm yes there would be a feature "login as" / "or change user" which allowed to login as another user for testing purposes - then you could make s.b. being the creator of his/her userpage, even if he/she could not find where to start withthat by him/herself [18:03] Telesight I want a wikipage for a user. So I can attach things to that user. But I want the user itself have only minimal rights. So I have to create the wikipage by a user with more rights. [18:03] fabricius hummm [18:04] fabricius so you want that the user cannot attach things to his own page? ... so more a page about the user than a page for the user [18:05] Telesight I want to "abuse" a systemuser login as Customer. [18:05] fabricius ?? [18:05] fabricius sre you german? [18:05] Telesight Correct. The user itself may do nothing. [18:06] Telesight Tikiwiki has no CRM functionality as far as I see ... [18:06] Telesight So I create a user for every customer. [18:07] fabricius if you want you can explain me in German in a query ... I do not really get the abusing thing ... I would think about personal category/group but I need to understand more, to be able to give a hint [18:07] fabricius ^^ ah getting nearer [18:07] arildb Telesight: you can set permissions directly on the page in question, or link the page to a category and set the permissions there. [18:07] fabricius category, yes [18:07] fabricius one customer = one category [18:08] fabricius not user [18:08] Telesight I have seen that Contacts does not meet my purposes. I can not attach items to a Contact. [18:08] fabricius tracker [18:08] fabricius category + tracker [18:08] Telesight I am not a German :) [18:09] Telesight arildb: ok I have to check that. [18:09] fabricius just thought :-D .. we sometimes have a certain way of using english language, that is not quite exact the same than the way native speakers talk [18:10] Telesight fabricius: With abuse I mean misusing the system ... [18:10] fabricius items apply to categories ... multiple if you like [18:10] fabricius I do not see a missuse, if you want to apply things and organise stuff [18:11] fabricius you just need to find the right features ... use what we have instead of bending around things which have other tasks [18:12] fabricius but still - the better we understand, what you want to do, we can give better hints what features to use and how [18:15] Telesight fabricius: I need to manage customers. For a customer I will create attachements, notes etcetera. [18:16] Telesight But I can not create a Contact as a customer. I can not make any attachements to a Contact. [18:17] Telesight So I thought. Create for every customer/client a systemuser with no rights. [18:17] Telesight Attach a wikipage to that systemuser and you can attach documents to that user/customer. [18:18] Telesight That is in short my goal. [18:20] Telesight So I have to create a catergory first? 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[18:32] fabricius rehi [18:33] fabricius I think you should start with categories [18:34] fabricius base would be a wikipage or a wikistructure of the customers category and / or trackers ... depending on your usecase [18:35] fabricius documents into a filegallery with the customers category or files with the customers category etc. ... all depending on your use case and workflow [18:35] fabricius or you attach files to the tracker items of the customer [18:37] fabricius the user "customerxyz" is only needed, if you want to give this customer some access to the data ... then user+group "customerxyz" and category permissions for the customers usergroup [18:38] fabricius if you do not need any access for the customer, you do not need user and group [18:38] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Problems with Zotero - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=47609 [18:39] Telesight fabricius: I have a customer named "Dummy", maybe I want ot give this user some rights to only view his case. [18:40] Telesight I have created a category "Dummy". [18:41] Telesight What rights do I have to give this category? [18:41] fabricius you can setup user+group+category-permission for each customer optinally at any later time ... for your stuff you need category and the set of feature items [18:41] fabricius moment [18:41] Telesight Ok [18:42] fabricius category permission ... [18:43] Telesight I see the permissions for the groups, not for the category [18:43] fabricius you need the permissions for your staffs group(s) that allow your staff to work with the user data ... for the customer you need the permissions that allow him to view what you want him to view .. if he should be able to edit or to add things the customers group needs edit or adding permissions [18:44] fabricius ahhh [18:44] fabricius confusion about general permissions and category permissions - I see [18:45] fabricius where you create the categories (category administration) there you see a list of categories and besides each there is a yellow key [18:46] fabricius click on that key and find a permission dialogue similar to the general permissions .. there you grant the category specific permissions [18:46] fabricius save that and the key will be green [18:47] fabricius you can setup several sets of categories/subcategories and use the sets for different purposes [18:47] fabricius so one set for permissions, one set for navigation / structuring modules, themes etc., one set for identifying items, ... [18:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46334 10branches/11.x/tiki-view_forum_thread.php [18:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] forums: Check for specific perms on the forum [18:49] fabricius once you add a content item to a category with active category permissions, for that item (for ex wiki page) the general permissions do noit longer apply [18:49] fabricius so you can hide all content from public, but setup a category "public" with view permission to Anonymous [18:50] fabricius apply a wikipage (or else) to the category public and it will be visible for public visitors - just an example [18:51] fabricius you need basic knowledge about general user/role/permission management and some about the permission setup in Tiki [18:52] fabricius object permissions override category permissions - category permissions override general permissions [18:52] Telesight Where to set the permissions? I only see groups on that permission dialogue ... [18:52] fabricius it makes sense to organise most of the permissions via category permissions [18:52] fabricius where did you click to set the permissions - I give you a link, moment [18:54] fabricius see that: example.com/tiki-admin_categories.php [18:54] fabricius not here: example.com/tiki-objectpermissions.php [18:55] fabricius you find the right spot via the general application menu (left hand side in a fresh standart installation) [18:56] fabricius menu item "Categories" and there button "Admin Categories" [18:56] fabricius there see the list of categories in admin mode and see the yellow key left besides the category names [18:56] fabricius click on a yellow key [18:57] fabricius and set the permission for one or sveral groups for this specific category [18:57] fabricius I think I must make up a video on this, as these questions coma up frequently in the last time [18:58] Telesight Aha you set permissions for groups per category ... [18:59] Telesight I see it now ... [18:59] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: PHP version and SegFaults - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=47611 [18:59] fabricius indeed Telesight you are right [18:59] fabricius when you see this on the top of the content area (column1 / middle column) you are wrong: [18:59] fabricius "Assign global permissions Help " [18:59] fabricius you must see this: [18:59] fabricius "Assign permissions to category:" [19:00] Telesight I see what you say. [19:00] fabricius and yes, there you assign PER Category the permission FOR the Groups IN the Category [19:01] fabricius a category has no permission in itself ... a Group has the permission to do things with categorised objects [19:01] Telesight So let me give the admin group the rights belonging to the wiki part. [19:02] fabricius general permissions are for uncategorised objects (uncategorised in the sense of not categised with permission categories) [19:03] fabricius the Group "Admins" has the permission tiki_p_admin and thus all superuserpermissions anyway [19:03] fabricius lets better talk about a group "Staff" [19:03] Telesight Ok I have another name but that does not matter. [19:04] fabricius and a staff member ... give him or her a name [19:04] fabricius Tony, Erica, John ... [19:05] Telesight I have a group with a user (comparable to Staff and John) [19:05] Telesight I have given that group the wiki rights in this category [19:06] fabricius I now assume, that John should have some permission to admin the customer "foodshop" but no permission for the customers "pizzadelivery" and "barbers" [19:07] Telesight Yes I understand what you mean, but that is for later ... [19:07] fabricius then you need to apply John to the Group "Foodshop" which has permissiones in the category "foodshop" [19:08] fabricius ... just one possible setup, depending on the physical office structure and workflow you want to rebuild virtually [19:08] fabricius so you have Roles in your company/department and in your CMS you have Groups, which represent the Roles [19:09] fabricius you have to think about that first, because if not, you have to rebuild the permission/group system in your CMS/Tiki a few times [19:10] fabricius one thing is testing and playing around - the other thing is starting to develop the application without prestructured permission concept [19:10] Telesight The key of the category is green ... [19:11] fabricius you can loose hours, days and weeks, if you missconfigure this - absolutely independantly of which CMS you are using - whilst Tiki is quite flexible to reorganise a site [19:11] fabricius so now the general perms do not apply any longer to a wikipage which you aopply to this category [19:11] fabricius you should try with an obvious permission [19:12] fabricius like view/notview in general and cat [19:13] fabricius two wikipages - one apllied to the cat and one not ... should be obvious then [19:13] fabricius I hope you work on a fresh installation not to get in conflict with different settings [19:13] * fabricius goas afk for a chat with the housemate ... brb [19:20] fabricius rehi [19:20] fabricius Telesight: any mor question? I have to go shopping in a few minutes [19:23] Telesight fabricius: thanks for now I wil try with this information. 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