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[00:43] fabricius PenguinMan98: an interesting idea
[00:43] fabricius PenguinMan98: and interesting problem
[00:43] astroo- hello
[00:55] PenguinMan98 I'm glad you agree
[00:56] PenguinMan98 It seems like enabling that feature would automatically put that link somewhere
[01:00] PenguinMan98 sup astroo
[01:00] astroo- hello yes and you?
[01:05] PenguinMan98 fantastic.
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[01:22] fabricius PenguinMan98: maybe some different smarty necessary?
[01:22] PenguinMan98 You tell me. I haven't really cracked open any of Tiki's code except for the tiki-login.php
[01:23] PenguinMan98 can you even use smarty in the url like that?
[01:24] fabricius I do not think so .. let me think about that for some moments
[01:24] PenguinMan98 yeah, http://screencast.com/t/gBaP0WpOtFy
[01:24] PenguinMan98 didn't work
[01:28] luciash PenguinMan98: so you have the arg variables enabled ?
[01:29] PenguinMan98 should be
[01:29] PenguinMan98 I turned em on today
[01:30] luciash PenguinMan98: and also Admin > General > Navigation > Allow HTML in menu option names and URLs ?
[01:30] PenguinMan98 hmm, let me check on that
[01:32] PenguinMan98 erm...
[01:32] luciash PenguinMan98: and yes, you can REALLY allow THAT, unless you give admin permissions to edit the menu to someone you do not trust
[01:32] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/mlttAfik
[01:32] PenguinMan98 ok
[01:32] PenguinMan98 I'll REALLY allow that
[01:33] * luciash knew that question will come next
[01:33] PenguinMan98 heh
[01:33] luciash now lets see if the {{user}} is stil being escaped
[01:33] luciash *still
[01:35] luciash i recommend to use only User:{{user}} if you have SEFURLs enabled site
[01:35] luciash without wiki link syntax
[01:36] PenguinMan98 still escaped
[01:36] luciash PenguinMan98: btw, if it is just single item menu it really makes no sense to put it as a menu but you could do that directly in custom module using smarty syntax
[01:37] luciash as i read more carefully now what you did
[01:37] PenguinMan98 thanks. I'll try that
[01:38] luciash PenguinMan98: so you can scratch that idea, remove that menu and just put this into your custom module: My Page
[01:39] fabricius ah yes .. that
[01:39] PenguinMan98 kk. In trying to delete that menu, I deleted my main left hand menu
[01:39] * PenguinMan98 headdesks
[01:40] fabricius ouch
[01:40] PenguinMan98 dammit
[01:40] luciash oh man :) hope you have some recent backup
[01:41] PenguinMan98 not of the database
[01:41] fabricius luciash PenguinMan98 .. I recon he means the main application menu
[01:42] PenguinMan98 anyone know the id of the main application menu?
[01:42] luciash nope, i think he means his custom left hand menu ;)
[01:42] PenguinMan98 default
[01:42] fabricius and I recon, he just deleted the module
[01:42] PenguinMan98 I did both
[01:42] fabricius arrrghhh
[01:42] luciash ah, you just unassigned the module of app menu ? easy to put it back then
[01:42] fabricius deleted both???
[01:42] PenguinMan98 kk
[01:43] luciash main menu is 42
[01:43] luciash default application menu
[01:43] fabricius module: "menu" -> param menuId=42
[01:43] PenguinMan98 I deleted both modules. The menus are still there
[01:43] PenguinMan98 42
[01:43] PenguinMan98 gooood number
[01:43] fabricius yesss
[01:43] luciash yep, just do not delete the menus please ;)
[01:43] fabricius especiaslly not this one
[01:43] luciash modules can be easily assigned back
[01:43] luciash you lost just some params if you had them there
[01:43] PenguinMan98 yay, my menu is back
[01:44] fabricius is it possible to delete 42? I do not think so
[01:44] luciash (it is not possible to delete app menu actually)
[01:44] luciash fabricius: not anymore, right
[01:44] PenguinMan98 I eventually intend to hide it after I get my own navigation working
[01:44] luciash in some older versions it was possible
[01:45] PenguinMan98 I hadn't modified it so I'm good
[01:45] luciash PenguinMan98: btw, did you know you can design your own menu in a wiki page and use that wiki page as your menu using the page menu module ?
[01:46] luciash PenguinMan98: it is not even possible to modify it ;)
[01:46] luciash PenguinMan98: menu 42
[01:46] PenguinMan98 I know. I wanted to but it told me I needed to clone it first
[01:46] PenguinMan98 I decided to put that off for later
[01:46] PenguinMan98 smart features
[01:47] PenguinMan98 @luciash pagemenu sounds awesome! I'll look into that
[01:47] luciash so hopefully now you are back on track :)
[01:47] PenguinMan98 yes
[01:47] PenguinMan98 thanks
[01:48] luciash see the docs, use force
[01:48] luciash bbl :)
[01:52] PenguinMan98 link doesn't work
[01:52] * PenguinMan98 chuckles
[01:53] luciash wiki syntax must be off if you use HTML and smarty syntax in custom module
[01:58] PenguinMan98 ((User:{$user}))
[01:58] PenguinMan98 that worked for the link after I turned the wiki parsing on for the module
[01:58] PenguinMan98 thanks for the tip
[02:00] PenguinMan98 So if I wanted to do a custom php, I just do that in a plugin?
[02:00] PenguinMan98 And then use that plugin in a custom module
[02:01] PenguinMan98 What if I wanted to access the db in a plugin? Is there already hookups for that? Or do I need to add a connection string to the plugin?
[02:01] PenguinMan98 Maybe I'll take a few modules apart and see what's inside
[02:02] PenguinMan98 I gotta go
[02:02] PenguinMan98 See you guys later on
[02:02] PenguinMan98 thanks again!
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[02:47] kstingel I'm trying to set up some trackers, but initial data is in a seperate SQL DB ...
[02:48] astroo- hello
[02:49] kstingel when adding the individual internal trackers, is "item_id" consecutive accross all trackers, or can each tracker commence numbering from "1"?
[02:54] fabricius hi kstingel afaik consecutive
[02:55] kstingel thanks fabricius, np ... I can add the consec ids to original DB once I've set data
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[03:40] luciash kstingel: i think you can choose if it should be auto-assigned by item id or start at defined value
[03:41] kstingel luciash: I vaguely recall an option to keep original item IDs, but wasn't sure how that worked
[03:42] kstingel will tinker a bit once I finish compiling src data and figure out best option ...
[03:43] kstingel may be easier to just use customised SQL queries to interact with data
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[05:14] PenguinMan98 Back
[05:19] PenguinMan98 ok. So I ran into an issue today
[05:19] PenguinMan98 I had a module that showed the most visited forum posts
[05:20] PenguinMan98 It let my registered users see guide-only material
[05:20] PenguinMan98 lucky this wasn't a huge problem this time.
[05:20] PenguinMan98 maybe I configured the module wrong?
[05:21] PenguinMan98 If I don't set the category on the module, it should honor the category of the material it's asking for right?
[05:23] PenguinMan98 On a totally unrelated note, does tikiwiki support content tagging?
[05:24] PenguinMan98 I realize I could mimic this with categories but it'd be clunky
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[05:50] * PenguinMan98 flicks the switch on and off on arildb's router
[05:50] PenguinMan98 *trollface*
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[06:21] chibaguy polom
[06:24] chibaguy Happy to be here and hoping to be more in touch. New pc should make it easier. :-)
[06:48] PenguinMan98 woot
[06:52] PenguinMan98 I had a module that showed the most visited forum posts
[06:52] PenguinMan98 It let my registered users see material that I'd restricted with a permissions category
[06:53] PenguinMan98 maybe I configured the module wrong?
[06:53] PenguinMan98 If I don't set the category on the module, it should honor the category of the material it's asking for right?
[06:53] PenguinMan98 I know the most recent forum posts module works this way
[07:13] chibaguy hi PenguinMan98 -
[07:14] PenguinMan98 sup chibaguy
[07:14] chibaguy Sorry I can't help much on that. ;-)
[07:14] chibaguy The module should respect the forum perms, I'd expect.
[07:16] chibaguy What Tiki version are you using?
[07:21] chibaguy If it's a version that's actively being worked on (9LTS or 11), then you could make a bug report at dev.tiki.org.
[07:22] PenguinMan98 10
[07:22] PenguinMan98 right in between
[07:22] PenguinMan98 Here's a question,
[07:22] PenguinMan98 Say I wanted a module for the most recent forum threads posted in.
[07:23] PenguinMan98 Do you think I should go ahead and create my own in the tikilib.php?
[07:23] PenguinMan98 Or is it wiser to stay out of the core and add it perhaps as a plugin?
[07:25] chibaguy Hmm, good question. Maybe you could post that on the dev mailing list. (I'm a font of information here. ;-) )
[07:25] PenguinMan98 fount*
[07:28] chibaguy heh
[07:28] PenguinMan98 hehe
[07:29] PenguinMan98 And say I did add it as a module, you all would desire that I push said module to the repo?
[07:33] PenguinMan98 I know I have such little experience in the code base compared to you all but it seems to me from what I've seen so far that the forums are not quite added in the same manner as the other features
[07:38] PenguinMan98 I just want to make sure my changes don't blow things up for future upgrades
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[07:59] chibaguy PenguinMan98, normally new features etc are added in svn trunk for testing and then ported to the branch that'll be the next release (so trunk and then tiki 11). It'd be best to ask on the dev list about adding the module, I'd say. And thanks for taking the initiative on that.
[07:59] chibaguy (if you want to do it)
[07:59] * PenguinMan98 shrugs
[07:59] PenguinMan98 As long as I'm doing the coding, I may as well share
[08:00] chibaguy Yes, that'd be nice.
[08:00] PenguinMan98 As it says on the doc.tiki, no two sites have the same needs and indeed it seems that the one or two things I really want are two it just doesn't do out of the box
[08:02] chibaguy About the module, if an existing module could be given another parameter to show what you want it to show, that'd be a good route to go, rather than making a new module from scratch.
[08:03] PenguinMan98 I can't believe there is a module for most viewed forum topics and one for most recent forum posts, but not one for most recent forum topics posted in.
[08:03] chibaguy I don't know about the code, though, and what'd be the best way.
[08:03] chibaguy Yeah, that seems like an obvious thing to be able to show.
[08:03] PenguinMan98 And the one for most viewed forum topics seems to have issues displaying the wrong content. That or my site was configured wrong.
[08:04] chibaguy hmm, well, some things haven't seen much love for a while, so could be acting strange.
[08:05] PenguinMan98 I created a category that restricts viewing a certain forum topic. However I don't think the forum post in that forum was tagged with the same category the forum topic itself was
[08:05] PenguinMan98 I'm not sure if this could be the issue. I assumed if you post in a restricted forum, then it inherits that restriction
[08:09] chibaguy That'd be logical.
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[08:19] PenguinMan98 I find that logic very much 'usually' applies around here
[08:19] PenguinMan98 hehe
[08:28] chibaguy :-)
[09:22] Emenems Allo allo. Is there someone here that could give me information about cartograf ? I don't understand how to create a map. Is it linked to trackers ?
[09:39] Emenems Jyhem_, salut :)
[10:10] Jyhem_ Emenems: not much time (on the ove). What is it you want to do? Reproduce the cartograf website or just understand how maps are used?
[10:10] Jyhem_ s/on the ove/on the move/
[10:11] Emenems Jyhem_, both :) firt, understand the architecture behind cartograpf, and how to create a map
[10:15] Jyhem_ I think that's the wrong way around :-)
[10:15] Jyhem_ Cartograf is so much more complicated and customized than "how to create a map"
[10:17] Emenems ok, any suggestion to better understand the cartograf project ?
[10:18] Jyhem_ To create a map, you put the MAPS plugin in a page. Then the plugin will magically look for geotagged links in the middle column of the page
[10:18] Jyhem_ So you need to put some there with some other plugin which lists geotagged objects (like articles)
[10:19] Jyhem_ or like the user in the bottom of the page ("last mofied by user").
[10:19] Jyhem_ Then you get more control with the ''scope'' param
[10:20] Jyhem_ so it only shows what you want
[10:21] Emenems Jyhem_, if i'm not wrong, trackers are also geotagged items, aren't they ?
[10:22] Jyhem_ they can when you give them a geolocate field, yes
[10:24] Emenems ok ok ... merci :) i'll take a look deeper in the documentation and i'll try
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[10:50] Jyhem_ Emenems: you might experiment on demo.tiki.org and come back with concrete questions :-)
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[18:47] PenguinMan98 So, I finally found the docs that tell me the correct way to add modules
[18:48] PenguinMan98 I started work on my first custom module. I got it all set up the way I thought it should have been but it seems the template file in templates/modules is loading without calling the php function file in (modules/)
[18:49] PenguinMan98 so it's trying to load without data
[18:49] PenguinMan98 unfortunately I won't have access to those files again until tonight
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[19:30] PenguinMan98 Hey guys,
[19:30] PenguinMan98 back on the question of custom user pages...
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[19:31] PenguinMan98 It does something really weird when you try to edit it
[19:31] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/LnYnoSYghegr
[19:35] PenguinMan98 Fixed it by changing ((User:{$user}|{$user}))
[19:36] PenguinMan98 to [/tiki-editpage.php?page=User:{$user}|{$user}'s page]
[19:39] luciash PenguinMan98: why you did not use the User's page ?
[19:39] luciash saves some parsing time
[19:39] PenguinMan98 because it didn't work
[19:40] luciash it must work
[19:40] PenguinMan98 I musta done something wrong yesterday then cuz it works today
[19:41] luciash it should just tell you the page does not exist if it does not and ask if you want to create it
[19:41] luciash in worst case
[19:41] luciash yep
[19:41] luciash might be
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[19:42] PenguinMan98 Nope, still doesn't work
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[19:43] PenguinMan98 It makes a pretty looking link but when you click on it, nothing happens
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[19:50] luciash PenguinMan98: nothing ?
[19:50] PenguinMan98 nothing
[19:51] luciash ah, i see, it is because of the :
[19:51] luciash it thinks User: is a protocol simmilar to http:
[19:51] luciash you need to put ./ in front of it
[19:51] luciash PenguinMan98: why you did not use the User's page ?
[19:51] luciash like thsi
[19:51] luciash *this
[19:52] luciash PenguinMan98: User's page
[19:52] luciash s/it/browser/
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[19:52] luciash in "it thinks" ;)
[19:53] PenguinMan98 ...
[19:53] PenguinMan98 Now I don't have permission to access it?
[19:53] * PenguinMan98 headdesks over the silliness of a single link
[19:53] luciash did you put "./" or "/" ?
[19:54] luciash the dot is mandatory
[19:54] PenguinMan98 [/tiki-index.php?page=User:{$user}|{$user}'s page] Works. If you click on it and the page isn't there, it asks you to create it
[19:54] PenguinMan98 I copied your example exactly
[19:55] luciash ok, maybe you do not have .htaccess enabled site for SEFURLs
[19:55] luciash that is why you need to put the tiki-index.php?... there
[19:56] * PenguinMan98 shrugs. Alls I know is: this works
[19:56] PenguinMan98 It's the syntax used to link to forums / etc
[19:58] arildb PenguinMan98: You can check if SEFURL is activated in the admin panel: tiki-admin.php?page=sefurl
[19:58] PenguinMan98 what is a SEFURL?
[19:59] arildb Search Engine Frriendly URLs, which enables you to use the url: "MyPage"m, instead of "tiki-index.php?page=MyPage"
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[19:59] PenguinMan98 brilliant!
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[20:00] Bsfez Hello Lu, all
[20:01] PenguinMan98 yo
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[20:09] luciash hey Bsfez
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[20:41] PenguinMan98 even the link I'm using fails if the username has a space in it
[20:42] PenguinMan98 Who even wrote this thing?
[20:42] PenguinMan98 How were they intending the feature be accessed?
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[20:46] PenguinMan98 gonna try this: [/tiki-index.php?page=User:{$user|replace:' ':''}|{$user}'s page]
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[20:48] PenguinMan98 aaaaand that makes the module explode
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[22:35] rinnan Howdy
[22:37] astroo- hello
[22:38] rinnan Does anyone know if there is a way to script renaming of users? We are moving to a new domain and I need to rename most users from @old_domain to @new_domain. I am able to do this manually using the Admin - Users - Adit Account Settings menu but I would love to be able to automate this procedure to enable a swift (and hopefully error free) migration. Any pointers would be most appreciated :)
[22:39] rinnan We're using LDAP for user authentication, hence the need to rename to keep user history
[22:42] PenguinMan98 Well..I'm pretty new around here but I'll take a stab
[22:43] PenguinMan98 You could create a custom module to do this. load it anywhere and turn off all the display elements so it just quietly runs.
[22:43] PenguinMan98 $query = "somequery to rename stuff"
[22:43] PenguinMan98 $tikilib->query($query)
[22:44] PenguinMan98 when you don't need it anymore, you just remove the module
[22:47] rinnan PenguinMan98: Thanks, I'll look into that approach. Just need to figure out the query itself. I'll dive into the code once I get som time on my hands
[22:48] arildb rinnan: beware of the many references by name (username in this case).
[22:48] PenguinMan98 SHould be the email field in the users_users table right?
[22:48] rinnan arildb: I know, thats why I'm reluctant to take any chances
[22:49] arildb rinnan: see userslib.php function change_login. Maybe it does what you want (for 1 user)
[22:50] rinnan arilldb: It seemed to do the job properly when executed via that adminmenu
[22:50] rinnan havent gotten around to examining exactly what that menu executes yet
[22:51] arildb rinnan: You could create your own PHP script to load all affected users and calling change_login
[22:52] PenguinMan98 and put it in a custom module?
[22:52] arildb a regular PHP script should do
[22:53] arildb place the script in the tiki root, and include require_once ('tiki-setup.php');
[22:53] arildb at the top. Then you should have access to tiki functionality
[22:54] PenguinMan98 global $tikilib;
[22:55] arildb yes, you may have to create instances of diffent libs
[22:55] arildb use TikiLib::lib('tiki'); instead of global $tikilib
[22:57] rinnan excellent suggestion
[23:01] rinnan will try it
[23:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46461 10trunk/tiki-mailin-code.php
[23:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Add logging to mail-in module
[23:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46462 10trunk/lib/logs/logslib.php
[23:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [SEC] Always use parameters in queries to prevent XSS
[23:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46463 10branches/11.x/lib/logs/logslib.php
[23:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [bp/r46462][SEC] Always use parameters in queries to prevent XSS
[23:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46464 10branches/9.x/lib/logs/logslib.php
[23:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [bp/r46462][SEC] Always use parameters in queries to prevent XSS
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