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[01:34] hrsms Unless I misunderstand their purpose, the changes I make on the "gallery listings" and "admin gallery listings" tabs in the "Select which items to display when listing galleries" section are not having any effect.  For instance, I checked the box to show the file ID and unchecked the box to show the last-modified date, but I do not see the ID and I still see the last-modified date.  I tried clearing the cache.  I'm running 9.2.  Ca
[01:45] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Gallery listings - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=47832
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[03:07] luciash polom
[03:14] fabricius polom
[03:14] fabricius how are you luciash ?
[03:17] luciash hey fabricius
[03:18] luciash fine, you too i hope
[03:19] fabricius yeah ... doing the best out of the worse
[03:20] fabricius actually I am working on responsifying Tiki ... and I am checking out different software like etherpadlike stuff, personal cloud stuff, collaborative coding stuff tc. ... testing different apps which are installable on shared hosting
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[03:31] fabricius one cool thing I did try today is a collaborative code edito, which I added on top of a running svn based Tiki installation
[03:31] fabricius editor
[03:33] fabricius imagine: a group of coders doing teamcoding at the same time and date ... via any network ... and can test the app instantly, svn up and down straight away and commit the code out of the editor via git
[03:33] fabricius or code teaching or css teaching or doing
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[03:53] luciash fabricius: this is cool old concept nobody seems to actually use :) i mean collaborative real time editing
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[03:56] luciash fabricius: some years ago i tried gobby but nobody seemed to be interested to test it with me here ;)
[03:57] fabricius luciash: my son (the older one) and me have planned, that I show him this and that to make him capable of doing websites, theme/css customisation, server and Tiki administration etc.
[03:57] fabricius he needs a crashcourse in html and css first
[03:58] fabricius and therefore I have been looking for the collaborative editing tool
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[03:59] fabricius finding out that it would be possible to collaboratively edit a running website and instantly test and commit was just more like a coincident, when I digged deeper and deeper
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[04:00] fabricius polom refizul
[04:00] fabricius and refizul_
[04:01] fabricius hah .. you did not ask me luciash ... probably you did not
[04:01] fabricius that is kind of thingi I always am keen on testing and playing with
[04:01] fabricius gobby luciash
[04:03] fabricius luciash: gobby:  It runs on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and other Unix-like platforms.
[04:03] fabricius luciash: that is not on shared hosting
[04:06] luciash fabricius: yes, i mean the concept
[04:06] fabricius see: http://codiad.com/ (it's MIT and easy to install on a shared lamp server)
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[04:07] luciash fabricius: marc wants that in tiki for years too iirc
[04:07] fabricius luciash: yes, me too - I think in general the necessarity of installing a software on groupmembers local pc's draws many people away and thus the group maintainers / webmasters / ... aswell
[04:07] luciash that == collaborative real time code editor
[04:07] fabricius iirc?
[04:07] luciash iirc == if i remember correctly
[04:08] fabricius I did write him on skype, but I need more testing before I write into the list
[04:08] fabricius maybe by end of the week
[04:08] fabricius need to write about responsifying aswell
[04:08] fabricius but some private tasks first
[04:09] fabricius collaborative Wiki editing would be awesome
[04:09] fabricius and autosave
[04:09] fabricius we need the calendar sync ... more and more urgently
[04:10] fabricius I am testing several things around Tiki for groupware tasks, where we are not good enough or lacking completely
[04:11] * chibaguy collaboratively edits irc conversation ;-)
[04:11] fabricius some we should be fine to leave them the features, but some stuff like calendar sync we need, if we want to be recognised as serious groupware
[04:11] luciash hey chibaguy :)
[04:12] fabricius polom gary chibaguy
[04:12] chibaguy hi luciash and fabricius
[04:12] fabricius heio tonight a bit more social than in usual nights .. cool
[04:13] fabricius refizul is so silent sadly ... am sure he is awaik, or maibe autobotly jumping in and out
[04:13] fabricius /s/maibe/maybe
[04:14] * fabricius is afk for a sec and brb
[04:21] * fabricius is back ;-)
[04:21] luciash :)
[04:21] * luciash needs another coffee
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[04:33] * fabricius1 has another coffee
[04:38] * luciash is back
[04:38] luciash but needs some gtd :)
[04:39] * fabricius is wondering, what gtd could mean
[04:39] luciash bbl
[04:40] luciash get things done ;)
[04:40] fabricius c ya
[04:40] fabricius ahhhh
[04:40] * fabricius is wondering, why he sometimes does not remember the obvious things
[05:16] chibaguy Hmm, I need to find out the solution for when this error running composer install:   [RuntimeException]
[05:17] chibaguy (on Windows 8, in phpStorm)
[05:17] chibaguy Seems familiar but I don't remember the solution.
[05:22] * chibaguy wonders how much Composer raises the bar or erects a wall for people who want to contribute to Tiki. I don't know about other platforms, but it isn't easy to get a smoothly functioning Tiki trunk or branch 11 dev setup with Windows.
[05:28] chibaguy Or are problems like the error I posted even due to my dev setup, or are they problems with the externals. Ok, clearly user ignorance here, so maybe docs, etc. are the solution.
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[08:54] luciash any reason why feature_search is off on dev.tiki.org now ?
[08:57] luciash there is error notice on top of http://dev.tiki.org/tracker5
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[09:24] pengy98-away sure.  the one day I step away is the day everyone gets social
[09:24] * pengy98-away waves at all
[09:26] luciash hi PenguinMan98
[09:26] PenguinMan98 what's up luciash ?
[09:26] luciash see up :)
[09:27] luciash how it goes there in the US ?
[09:28] PenguinMan98 I know. The very concept of collaborative coding fills me with all kinds of warm gooey feels
[09:28] PenguinMan98 Independence day! Woo!
[09:28] PenguinMan98 My poor dog, he's so frightened of fireworks
[09:32] luciash *g*, yeah, poor dogs
[09:32] luciash it is pretty late night there for you, right ? june 4th is over
[09:32] luciash err, july
[09:32] PenguinMan98 July?
[09:33] luciash :D
[09:33] PenguinMan98 lol
[09:33] PenguinMan98 Speaking of late? tired?
[09:33] luciash yep
[09:33] luciash i am over-late
[09:33] PenguinMan98 and yeah, it's 1:32 AM here
[09:33] PenguinMan98 I just finished a really good book and I wanted to code a bit
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[10:56] PenguinMan98 Shit
[10:56] PenguinMan98 OK, I need some help
[10:57] PenguinMan98 I was making some changes to the GIT repository I store my code base in.  I screwed up a command or two and got confused.
[10:57] PenguinMan98 So, naturally, I reverted back to my last stable revision
[10:58] PenguinMan98 First issue: Now my live code is exhibiting the same error as the testing server with wonky EOL's ruining the unserialization
[10:58] PenguinMan98 So, I fixed that like I did on testing
[10:58] PenguinMan98 Site came online.  Sweet
[10:59] PenguinMan98 I went to edit a page though and even though the page edited fine, it gave me an error:
[10:59] PenguinMan98 Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator. File 'temp/unified-index/segments_ls' is not readable.
[10:59] PenguinMan98 I checked my codebase and sure enough, the file was not there.
[11:00] PenguinMan98 I realize that tikiwiki generates files like that one during use and my reverting the repo wiped that file out inadvertantly.
[11:00] PenguinMan98 a) this is going to change how I approach keeping a repo for this bastard
[11:01] PenguinMan98 (suggestions welcomed)
[11:01] PenguinMan98 b) Now I have errors whenever I change something.  If I'd done a real 'revert' I would have file history, but I didn't.  I did a reset --hard HEAD so I cannot undo it.
[11:02] PenguinMan98 B) What do I do about the missing file(s)?
[11:03] fabricius when you change things, please mind that some people are running Tikis right from SVN and so some specific files should not be existing in the core, cause they will be customised by default and would be deleted whenever svn-up
[11:03] fabricius B) hummm maybe use the one from the dev site ... once it is not a customised config file
[11:05] PenguinMan98 true, I did copy things there.  I'll try to copy back but since it is a temp/ file, I'm nervous about it
[11:06] PenguinMan98 The temp install doesn't have the file it's looking for
[11:06] PenguinMan98 Is Tiki smart enough to regenerate the search index if the file goes missing?
[11:07] PenguinMan98 And as far as which files to exclude from the svn, I was excluding: /db/local.php , /temp , and /templates_c
[11:12] PenguinMan98 so, now with every save, I get the error that the file is missing
[11:14] PenguinMan98 Ok, I gave it an empty file with the name it was looking for. It doesn't seem to mind the file was empty and after saving one page, filled it up with stuff
[11:14] PenguinMan98 Seems to have worked
[11:33] fabricius oh
[11:33] fabricius temp
[11:33] fabricius afaik all in temp can be deleted
[11:33] fabricius same as caches
[11:33] fabricius I delete stuff there frequently without issues
[11:34] PenguinMan98 my git is so screwed up I think I'm going to wipe it and start over
[11:35] fabricius Tiki normally is running via SVN on Linux ... might there be some differences when using Git and Windows?
[11:35] fabricius I do not think so ... but maybe?
[11:38] PenguinMan98 pfft.  Hell if I know
[11:38] PenguinMan98 Git > SVN
[11:46] PenguinMan98 I used git rm -r public/temp etc to fix it all
[11:46] PenguinMan98 So far as I can tell, all is as it should be again
[11:47] PenguinMan98 are there any other directories I should exclude from my repo?
[11:47] PenguinMan98 besides public/temp and public/templates_c?
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[12:14] fabricius hmmm with public you mean the tikiroot?
[12:15] fabricius and I see no reaso to exclude caches or temp
[12:15] fabricius reason
[12:16] fabricius I do not know how git does, but with svn it is that all non repo files will not be changed or deleted
[12:17] fabricius so for ex, if you rename _htaccess into .htaccess at 'svn up' the server loads a new _htaccess, but .htaccess remains untouched
[12:17] fabricius same with 'lang/custom.php' or any customly added file
[12:18] fabricius only default files which have been customised will be renewed
[12:18] fabricius that means: copy the theme/stylesheet and rename, before you customise
[12:19] fabricius or copy a .tpl into templates/styles/mytheme and customise there, but not the original one
[12:19] fabricius etc.
[12:19] fabricius I assume with git that should be pretty much the same?
[12:19] * zaki is away: هذه رسالة تلقائية: أنا آسف جدا، اليوم طلعت من البيت وسأرجع في المساء.
[12:20] fabricius bye Taki c u tonight ... why you are sad?
[12:21] fabricius sorry zaki  not Taki .. misstyped
[12:21] fabricius sad because you have to leave us? ;-)
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[16:12] fabricius 5moloq ynnu5
[16:14] jonnyb hi fabricius
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[16:45] PenguinMan98 mornin
[17:25] PenguinMan98 Yes, Git works much the same. It's all in how you set it up.
[17:25] PenguinMan98 My problem was that I added the /temp and /templates_c folders in the repo at the beginning and changed my mind later.
[17:26] PenguinMan98 Getting files out of the repo is a lot more crazy than getting them in
[17:27] PenguinMan98 I figured it out
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[22:52] PenguinMan98 So, what's the word on version 11?
[22:58] fabricius whats the problem?
[22:58] fabricius I think its branched as beta, but not released
[22:59] fabricius I work with 11 by now
[22:59] fabricius cartograf with pre12
[22:59] fabricius but had it on all previous versions aswell
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