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fabricius | polom | [00:53] |
refizul | polom & hello fabricius | [00:54] |
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fabricius | anything going on? | [01:39] |
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refizul | it's running - yeah. | [02:33] |
fabricius | cool
refizul: congratulations mail or the Tiki or all 3? ahh mail was Penguin so the Tiki | [02:34] |
refizul | and just in time - tomorrow is an important day for the project | [02:34] |
fabricius | ah | [02:35] |
refizul | Tiki connected to a mailinglist | [02:35] |
fabricius | customer or association?
ah yes good are you familiar with git? | [02:35] |
refizul | atm association, but maybe a customer later, if they can afford employees | [02:35] |
fabricius | PenguinMan98 did explain me some of it yesterday
I did setup the Codiad editor and besides 4 demo and 1 training Tiki 15 coding Tikis | [02:36] |
refizul | I don't now the details, because I almost don't use it, but basically it's svn with branching and decentralisation | [02:36] |
fabricius | now I am thinking to try to connect the editor to Git ... there is an Admin panel and I think it is possible on a per user base | [02:37] |
refizul | now: party! | [02:37] |
fabricius | you go out? | [02:37] |
refizul | no, too late now for that | [02:38] |
fabricius | are you interested to have a look at the editor?
I needed some review, if that is a useful tool for Tiki coders - at least for training sessions - I am not a coder and thus my personal expertise on this is limited | [02:38] |
refizul | I've been working >10 hours and this is not much compared to the days before | [02:39] |
fabricius | no need to work ... just an offer to view if you'd be interested. you can at any time | [02:40] |
refizul | I'm not capable of deep thinking, looking, or straight walking anymore | [02:40] |
fabricius | no problem - yesterday night I was faling from the chair as well (literally in the german meaning ;-) )
falling | [02:41] |
refizul | unfortunately there is no champaign around | [02:41] |
fabricius | you know: falling down the chair from tiredness *gg*
I could lookup the internet how to wrote one in chat ... but still would stay virtual I guess you need physical champaign ?? | [02:41] |
refizul | or champagne | [02:42] |
fabricius | btw, I could go to the balcony and get my last fag .. arrg already did an hour ago
ahh gosh yes champagne .. I did not get it | [02:43] |
refizul | however, still some beer | [02:43] |
fabricius | so cheers then
hope it is cold | [02:43] |
refizul | no | [02:43] |
fabricius | arrrgs | [02:43] |
refizul | worked too long | [02:43] |
fabricius | warm plastic bottle from Aldi?
would not be a fest I think | [02:44] |
refizul | glass bottle | [02:44] |
fabricius | at least | [02:44] |
refizul | I'm not satisfied with this installation, but at least it seems to work | [02:45] |
fabricius | whats the problem?
structure? | [02:45] |
refizul | it's a Tiki9 | [02:45] |
fabricius | LTS
can eb upgraded lateron /s/eb/be | [02:45] |
refizul | I wanted Tiki11 and then Tiki12 LTS, but there is too much trouble yet | [02:46] |
PenguinMan98 | GIT is a LOT different from SVN | [02:47] |
refizul | forum mailout does not work in Tiki11, Zend problem
and forum/mailinglist merge is the main reason for that Tiki | [02:47] |
PenguinMan98 | GIT was not built for repository control. It just turns out that's everyone's favorite use for it | [02:47] |
fabricius | hehe | [02:48] |
refizul | as HTML was not developed for email, but... | [02:48] |
fabricius | often things get popular for things they haven't been intentionally developped | [02:48] |
refizul | that's called hacking | [02:49] |
PenguinMan98 | Creative utilization | [02:49] |
refizul | hacking as in making hot soup with a coffee machine | [02:49] |
PenguinMan98 | I used to do that all the time, only it was cup-o-noodles | [02:53] |
fabricius | YEAHHH I made with similar than cup noodles alright
PenguinMan98: I would like to get one test positively running with Git - lets say setting up the Giut master repo for developer 15 and maybe then a push pull thingi with a Git account ... I think to setup one on github | [02:56] |
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PenguinMan98 | ok
First off, git is the repo, master is just a branch. | [03:23] |
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fabricius | aaaaargh | [03:24] |
PenguinMan98 | heh | [03:24] |
fabricius | I wil neeeeeeever get it | [03:24] |
PenguinMan98 | Naw, it's really simple
Treating master like just any other branch is beautiful and simple | [03:24] |
fabricius | I do not clearly get the words .. the meanings
humm I will ask you some question in a few minutes ... | [03:26] |
PenguinMan98 | OK. Git manages the repository for you and gives you a default branch to work with called 'master' | [03:26] |
fabricius | must finish s.th. quickly | [03:26] |
PenguinMan98 | You can make as many other branches as you like and jump from branch to branch as you please.
Any code changes that you make are made outside of any git branches. Thus, if you make a change and then switch branches, the change goes with you. It's not until you commit the change to a branch that it's fixed there and when you change branches then, it stays in the branch you want it in. | [03:27] |
fabricius | let me finish first and the I concntrate on the git, OK? only minutes | [03:29] |
PenguinMan98 | no sweat | [03:29] |
fabricius | so finish
rehi you know the setup of the wiki4.me server? account root -> codiad / info.wiki4.me / some more directories and no domain on it I recon, it would make sense to create a directory "git" on that level and into that create the directories for the git master(s) am I right PenguinMan98 ? how can I check, if Git is installed on the server? my idea is, that anybody, who has ssh access to that server can push/pull with git (only trusted developers, or temporary for trainees) am I on the right track, gitwise? | [03:42] |
PenguinMan98 | try opening command line and typing 'git' and see what it says
And yes, the newbies are going to be committing most likely but not much else Maybe pull if you want them to pull changes from a central repo Since each instance is individual, I wouldn't recommend having them push | [03:51] |
fabricius | one question will be, how to "clean" the developer spaces, once they are finished ... with not much timeconsuming workflow
latest shortly before a new lesson Since each instance is individual, I wouldn't recommend having them pushan with: "Since each instance is individual, I wouldn't recommend having them push"? btw PenguinMan98 - tyoping git in the terminal brings back a lot of commands and explanations ... Git is installed on the server next step? | [03:53] |
PenguinMan98 | OK
Go to the development code folder for one of the 15 tikis And as for reverting? It's ridiculously simple. I'll show you in a minute | [04:00] |
fabricius | I go there in the terminal?
ok, I am in dev15 | [04:04] |
PenguinMan98 | OK. Git init | [04:05] |
fabricius | .git/ | [04:05] |
PenguinMan98 | great!
now you can use: git add _____ to add files to the repo or: git add -A | [04:05] |
fabricius | where is the repo? | [04:06] |
PenguinMan98 | to add them all
There isn't one yet, but it will be stored in the .git folder | [04:06] |
fabricius | where is the .git folder? this .git/ what came back? it is actually IN the codebase of dev15? | [04:07] |
PenguinMan98 | It sits in the folder with the code, yes | [04:07] |
fabricius | ahhh | [04:08] |
PenguinMan98 | but git should auto-exclude it | [04:08] |
fabricius | we need to develop a workflow and document this
ok, go on pls | [04:08] |
PenguinMan98 | once you've added all the files to the repo, (use 'git status' to double check) , then you use git commit to commit it. There are two variations. | [04:09] |
fabricius | so I use git add -A?
running | [04:09] |
PenguinMan98 | For a first time, yes. We can talk about excluding files later
the only file you really want to exclude is db/local.php | [04:10] |
fabricius | it is a fresh install anyway and no customised files in it .. assuming you did not start to code or alter yesterday | [04:10] |
PenguinMan98 | but if you aren't pushing the repo to a public place, there is nothing wrong with leaving it in | [04:10] |
fabricius | ah yeah local.phop MUST be excluded, but I can even take it back out later, isn.t it?
ahh and I have several .SVN files in it aswell and .htaccess | [04:11] |
PenguinMan98 | yes. We can take it out later if you feel it's important | [04:12] |
fabricius | best would be to exclude all directories starting with a "." plus local.php
for now it is just a test anyway in case we would crash dev15, we could delete the content of ahhhh of dev15/Tiki12 ... already fu**** it up | [04:12] |
PenguinMan98 | k. once you've added the files with git add -A or however you do it, then either 'git commit' which will take you to a screen showing your changes and prompt you with a VI interface to enter a commit message, or 'Git commit -m "Some commit message" | [04:13] |
fabricius | one directory too high | [04:13] |
PenguinMan98 | ok. | [04:14] |
fabricius | we should delete the whole .git/ and move one level deeper and do it again | [04:14] |
PenguinMan98 | This is very easy to undo. Yes. Delete the .git/ and that's it. | [04:14] |
fabricius | ok
there is no .git inside ???? the terminal must recognise .files by default, isn't it? strange I try again | [04:14] |
PenguinMan98 | try cd .git
see if it works you might need to sudo to delete it | [04:16] |
fabricius | nope .. just had to ls -a instead of ls
it is there | [04:18] |
PenguinMan98 | kk
I almost always use ls -lah | [04:18] |
fabricius | -lah?
means? ah .. have it huge amounts of info ;-) | [04:21] |
PenguinMan98 | looovely info | [04:23] |
fabricius | what is h? -l clear -a clear, but -h?
PenguinMan98: no Tiki inside .git | [04:24] |
PenguinMan98 | There shouldn't be. We didn't commit | [04:27] |
fabricius | after git add -A | [04:27] |
PenguinMan98 | commit | [04:28] |
fabricius | how? | [04:28] |
PenguinMan98 | git commit | [04:28] |
fabricius | dumb wuestion
dumb question | [04:28] |
PenguinMan98 | PenguinMan98 pat pats | [04:28] |
fabricius | hehe | [04:28] |
PenguinMan98 | ^^ | [04:28] |
fabricius | works
fabricius thinks about he will ever understand this fabricius thinks if and how and when fabricius but is delghted by the guidance of PenguinMan98 fabricius even forgot the basic grammar, as he is sooo concentrated on this in the early morning ... even forgot he is tired and should sleep before breakfast | [04:31] |
PenguinMan98 | PenguinMan98 is glad to be able to give back a little | [04:36] |
fabricius | that's the reason most of us start to get committed to the community
family like PenguinMan98: why my terminal stays in the git commit mode now? | [04:37] |
PenguinMan98 | save it | [04:39] |
fabricius | not coming back to shell mode | [04:39] |
PenguinMan98 | :q | [04:39] |
fabricius | ah save
ah | [04:39] |
PenguinMan98 | or exc + zz | [04:39] |
fabricius | not working | [04:41] |
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thx .. vi ... escape (esc) + ZZ => save thx PenguinMan98 for expl. in query (just if s.b. reads the log one day)
so what I do with the repo now? | [04:56] | |
PenguinMan98 | ok
now that you've committed, type git log it should show you the last few commits. In this case, only one The name of a commit is a long-ass hexidecimal string | [04:57] |
fabricius | commit author date
next? | [04:58] |
PenguinMan98 | Thankfully, it's random enough after 6+ characters that GIT can usually get the right one so most people reference commits by just the first 6 characters of the name.
write them down now. Make sure you know what the initial commit name is Then, whenever you need to change the repository back to this initial state, all you have to do is type: 'Git checkout __commit_name__' And now you know how to revert | [04:59] |
fabricius | what is the initial commit name? | [05:00] |
PenguinMan98 | a long-ass hexidecimal string | [05:00] |
fabricius | ahhhhh
dumb question again lol | [05:00] |
PenguinMan98 | You only need the first six characters | [05:00] |
fabricius | shure? | [05:00] |
PenguinMan98 | it's cool | [05:00] |
fabricius | sure? | [05:00] |
PenguinMan98 | yes
<PenguinMan98> Thankfully, it's random enough after 6+ characters that GIT can usually get the right one so most people reference commits by just the first 6 characters of the name. | [05:00] |
fabricius | you said "most people"
and "Git can usually get the right one" so most and usually enough *gg* | [05:01] |
PenguinMan98 | use 8 characters then
PenguinMan98 shrugs | [05:02] |
fabricius | hehe ok understand ... I can use all, but after 6 it gets very very unlikely to go wrong | [05:03] |
PenguinMan98 | yep | [05:04] |
fabricius | and if, then repeat and then use more
?? | [05:04] |
PenguinMan98 | yes | [05:04] |
fabricius | ok
got it | [05:04] |
PenguinMan98 | they can make a billion commits to the repository
it makes no difference. git checkout __hex__ restores it to its initial state You can do this with any commit too So if you want to upgrade the tikis, you revert them to the initial configuration, then upgrade them and commit. Then take note of the new commit name Then revert back to that one instead use git log to see the commit history | [05:04] |
fabricius | hummm
I start to understand does it delete new files swell? and what is with the content of dev15/Tiki12 .. I mean the SVN Tiki installation ... is that chenged aswell? I mean, we code in dev15/Tiki12 and not in dev15/Tiki12/.git understand what I mean? /s/chenged/changed is it one way or two ways?? still not understood? I think, I am nearly there .. brain still tries to stay in reluctance mode, but cannot keep the counter pressure .. I'd say I am shortly before understanding hummm is it, that the actual code is not stored in .git? just kind of necessary metainformation and stuff like that .. encrypted pieces .. ?? and from here - can I commit from here to another directory on a server and finaly to sourceforge? | [05:07] |
PenguinMan98 | Yes, if you add new files, the git checkout will remove them
And yes, it can go two ways. If you remember the most recent commit name, you can go back to it with git checkout too Git starts by making a copy of everything you currently have. Then, every time you make a change, it stores only the changes. the 'deltas' is what they say When you go forward or backward, it just applies or removes these deltas (changes) to go from one state to the next | [05:25] |
fabricius | aha
seem to undestand it if I wanted to commit to sf ... not from the testing environment here, but in general ... how to do that? lets say I would use codiad on my local machine or on my personal server account | [05:36] |
PenguinMan98 | commit to 'sf' ? | [05:39] |
fabricius | I assume, I simply must commit from Tiki12 and exclude local.php and .git
to sourceforge | [05:39] |
PenguinMan98 | oh
Yes. first things first, remove local.php git rm --cached db/local.php That command should clear out the file and any cached copy of it for the history of the repo. adjust the path as needed of course then commit the change | [05:39] |
fabricius | adjust the path?
arrrgl ... wouldn't local.php be deleted in Tiki12 aswell? no good, cause then no database and not connected to subdomain anymore | [05:41] |
PenguinMan98 | No. Only in the repo you run the command in. | [05:42] |
fabricius | I meant dev15/Tiki12
I did set up things, that this is connected to a database and thus accessable via subdomain as running site to check whats the result of changes no local.php in dev15/Tiki12 -> no database -> no running website | [05:42] |
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fabricius | afaik in SVN you commit single files mainly ... so no problem with local.php in the repo - from that point | [05:48] |
PenguinMan98 | And no, that command will only delete git's copy
not the actual file If you want git to ignore that file from now on, you go to the directory the file is in and create a new file named .gitignore Inside the .gitignore file, you add the line local.php/ save it Then add the .gitignore to the repository and commit it | [05:49] |
fabricius | ahhhh
nice!!! | [05:56] |
PenguinMan98 | yep!
Add more files to the .gitignore file by appending them to the first line. Don't use newlines. | [05:56] |
fabricius | all in one line | [05:57] |
PenguinMan98 | (( Truthfully, I'm not sure if newlines are fine or not. I've just only ever seen it all on one line.
Here's my .gitignore http://screencast.com/t/tRG3yOE43 | [05:57] |
fabricius | hummm will I have to add local.php or db/local.php into the file .gitignore? | [06:03] |
PenguinMan98 | put the .gitignore in the /db directory and just add local.php
http://screencast.com/t/YehvSsoZ I tend to ignore the .gitignores. I've been told this is a bad idea | [06:04] |
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fabricius | errrr
PenguinMan98: what is a bad idea? r u joking? | [06:15] |
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PenguinMan98 | Nope. If you ignore the .gitignore file too, then everyone who pulls your code has to ignore the file too
After you give them a copy that doesn't have your passwords in it | [06:21] |
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fabricius | do not understand now
ahh the others gits ignore them by default, if you ignore your ignore? | [06:33] |
PenguinMan98 | no. you have to commit your .gitignore to the repository otherwise the people who pull your repository will have to create their own
It's more a nuisance than anything | [06:36] |
fabricius | ah
I have now a file .gitignor in Tiki12/db sry .gitignore content: local.php/.svn/.gitignore humm is ther a difference to be made between files and folders? .svn is a folder | [06:39] |
PenguinMan98 | I dont think that's an issue
It should ignore the whole folder I say should, but I've had issues with it in the past When new files are added inside the directory, Git likes to try and add them to the repository anyway It's something I haven't quite figured out yet | [06:41] |
fabricius | ok
I thank you very much it is nearly 7 now ... verrry tired | [06:43] |
PenguinMan98 | no sweat | [06:44] |
fabricius | I have to slep fast and deep now ... I appreciate all your help
thank you a lot I hope we will use that in the one or the other way, anyway I learned a lot I say good bye now | [06:44] |
PenguinMan98 | ok!
Good night! | [06:46] |
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tikiwiki [REL] Closing release of 6.12 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46663 10branches/9.x/ 04db/tiki-secdb_9.5_mysql.sql 10lib/setup/twversion.class.php tikiwiki [REL] Preparing 9.6 release tikiwiki 03changi67 r46664 10branches/9.x/README tikiwiki [REL] Update README file for 9.6 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46665 10branches/9.x/ 10(49 files in 49 dirs) tikiwiki [REL] Update language.php files for 9.6 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46666 10branches/9.x/changelog.txt tikiwiki [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.6 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46667 10branches/9.x/copyright.txt tikiwiki [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.6 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46668 03branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.6_mysql.sql tikiwiki [REL] SecDB for 9.6 tikiwiki 03changi67 r46669 03tags/9.6 tikiwiki [REL] Tagging release | [21:08] | |
changi | Tiki 10 and tiki 11 will be done tomorrow | [21:24] |
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Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03changi67 r46670 10branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
tikiwiki [REL] Closing release of 9.6 | [21:28] |
tikiwiki 03ccardinal r46671 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
tikiwiki translated add a table of contents to a page. Thank you Marc Laporte for my first commit tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r46672 10trunk/templates/comment/list.tpl tikiwiki [FIX] Display comments form by default - had already been implemented but broken later on tikiwiki 03lindonb r46673 10trunk/lib/core/Table/Plugin.php tikiwiki Notices - tablesorter: property shouldn't be static | [21:38] | |
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tikiwiki French translation added | [21:52] | |
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tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r46676 10branches/11.x/templates/comment/list.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] Backport r46672 Display comment form by default broken | [22:38] | |
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Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03syracine r46677 10trunk/lib/logs/logslib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Bug 4509 - Fix troncate of comment in Action Log when multi-bytes caracteres are used | [23:40] |
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