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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r46977 10trunk/ 10templates/remarksbox.tpl 10tiki-setup_base.php 10templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl 10lib/smarty_tiki/block.remarksbox.php [ENH] remarksbox: Remember which rboxes have been closed by the user and keep them closed (reset button in user preferences) Thanks for the idea luciash, sorry it took so long! :)	[01:08]
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	03pascalstjean r46978 03trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_webdocviewer.php [NEW] New plugin to allow over 20 file types to be viewed inline using Google Document Viewer	[01:52]
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Anzhe	usability question for Tiki Wiki 11 - the Pages section has two tabs, List Wiki Pages & Create a Wiki Page... I find that it "saves state" - the last tab you looked at is the one you'll see next time regardless of your intended action. In other words, if I List Wiki Pages, and then via the left menu select "Create a Wiki Page", it will take me to Pages and show me the List Wiki Pages screen instead. This is clearly incorrect. How do either stop saving state, or override the tab display so that you get the one you intended?	[03:47]
marclaporte	joined #tikiwiki polom Tiki 11.x rocks	[03:52]
Anzhe	polom!	[03:53]
marclaporte	:-)	[03:54]
Anzhe	marclaporte: if you have a minute, please check the log to see the question I just posted here	[03:54]
marclaporte	sure Anzhe: yes, that tab memory is annoying Expect for turning off tabs, I don't know of a solution or workaround I vaguely remember when it was introduced It was to solve the problem of always having to select tab2 or tab3 when you came back	[03:54]
Anzhe	it makes sense in all context except when you select a link to a specific tab then it's a complete UI failure	[03:59]
	in there a way to get rid of the "Titles" button on the Search module? I can post a photo if that's not a clear question	[04:06]
marclaporte	Anzhe: about tabs memory, can you http://dev.tiki.org/Make+a+wish ? I suggest you record a short screencast: http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast#Demo_of_screencast_and_editing_the_video and then, we'll have a community discussion about to resolve "Titles" button on the Search module -> Yes, there a bunch of module options. http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-admin_modules.php?edit_assign=18&cookietab=2 check the tabs here try show_go_button=n titles used to be go I think :-)	[04:09]
Anzhe	there is Titles and Go :-) but only the Go button has a appearance config option wait what that worked ok hold on! someone oughta file a bug report "Show Go Button" toggles the "Titles" button? that's how you give new users headaches! ;-) marclaporte: do you know how often the Lucene index is updated?	[04:15]
marclaporte	On your Tiki site or in general?	[04:23]
Anzhe	the default setting I just turned the search on for our site and forced an index update but I'm curious how/when it updates itself for example, a cron queue that is tapped with each page edit...	[04:25]
marclaporte	So not all operations are handled by incremental updates. Thus, you need to have a daily cron for a full rebuild. ex.: when you rename a page, the old page stays in the index and when you click on it, you get an error "Show Go Button" toggles the "Titles" button -> instead of a bug report, what do you say that I teach you to commit a fix for this? basically, learning to commit and changing a text label This will be useful as well when you want to commit translations	[04:27]
Anzhe	that would be very kind of you. if you've got time now I've got time, or we can schedule a mentoring session for another date/time?	[04:31]
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Anzhe	did you not receive my last message? marclaporte: that would be very kind of you. if you've got time now I've got time, or we can schedule a mentoring session for another date/time?	[04:51]
marclaporte	Let's start now and see how far we get :-)	[04:52]
Anzhe	ok	[04:52]
marclaporte	1st thing, you fix locally	[04:52]
Anzhe	log it all here or switch to direct messaging?	[04:52]
marclaporte	then, after, you learn to commit log all here, for others to learn as well So, there is inconsistent label. Which one to keep, which one to change?	[04:52]
Anzhe	clearly we keep the button, because the functionality is a Title search Go means nothing in particular	[04:53]
marclaporte	So what exact text do you want to change, and from what to what?	[04:55]
Anzhe	ok, on the Search module preferences (having already added it to a page region), under the Module tab, there is an option called "Show Go Button" below the input also has the text "Show go to page button. Default: "y" (do show go button)"	[04:56]
marclaporte	ok, perfect	[04:56]
Anzhe	all instances of "go" should be changed to "Titles" (I'm being exceedingly loquacious for posterity's sake)	[04:56]
marclaporte	So, now, you need to grep (search through all) the code to see if it's a unique use So you don't break something else by making this better. Seems unlikely, but just to be sure	[04:57]
Anzhe	one moment, my IDE is still indexing the Tiki11 local install	[04:57]
marclaporte	So most text strings are in the templates directory	[04:58]
Anzhe	I assume you do active development, just out of curiousity which IDE do you use?	[04:58]
marclaporte	I usually commit from the server, no IDE I just SSH to Linux server, change code, and commit from there	[04:59]
Anzhe	you write PHP without an IDE? are you a wizard?	[04:59]
marclaporte	A lot of people here like PHP Storm	[05:00]
Anzhe	that's what I've used for a couple of years as well	[05:00]
marclaporte	I don't do tricky stuff	[05:00]
Anzhe	started with NetBeans but it just ran like... a non-runner ok, I found 9 instances of "do show go button" in my T11 vanilla install one is in the modules folder, the rest are localization strings in the lang folders mod-func-search.php line 58 has it	[05:00]
marclaporte	ok, so there is where you need to modify it	[05:02]
Anzhe	yep	[05:02]
marclaporte	It will break all the translations, and then you need to decide if that is a good thing or bad thing Should translations be invalidated? If Yes, you have nothing else to do (but commit)	[05:03]
Anzhe	I guess that depends if the translations are obsolete as well the UK Eng and FR are obviously wrong so I think they should be invalidated question the array itself is misnamed line 56 'show_go_button' this array has 6 usages in mod-func-search.php and one in mod-search.tpl it should be renamed to 'show_titles_button' shall I go ahead and update all instances in the single commit?	[05:04]
marclaporte	For the record, if they should not be invlidated, then, there should be a search & replace to change the original string -> http://dev.tiki.org/mass+spelling+correction yes, you should commit all this in one commit since it's all related	[05:07]
Anzhe	lemme go ahead and make those edits then, one moment	[05:08]
marclaporte	But if you change the variable name, it could get more tricky So you can be lazy/safe and keep variable name and just change labels	[05:08]
Anzhe	it's a key within the 'params' array rather than an independent variable, so I think changing it fully is low-risk	[05:08]
marclaporte	What about existing sites that are using it under that name?	[05:09]
Anzhe	I don't follow the commit would not impact existing sites	[05:09]
marclaporte	If someone has a wiki page in which he calls that module with show_go_button=n as a param, what will happen?	[05:10]
Anzhe	nothing, or it'll throw an error for array key not found	[05:11]
marclaporte	So they could have a change of behavior, no?	[05:11]
Anzhe	indeed, but clearly calling an apple "potato" for legacy's sake is also not ideal so I would defer to the developer guidelines which are...? :-)	[05:11]
marclaporte	hehe	[05:12]
Anzhe	actually no first I would find the person who changed "Go" to "Titles" and slap them with a trout THEN I could consult the developer guidelines	[05:12]
marclaporte	hahahahhahaha The general guideline is to do what you think is best for Tiki	[05:12]
Anzhe	it was you, wasn't it? and now you're making me clean up your mess under the guise of a learning exercise! Anzhe looks askance at marc	[05:13]
marclaporte	:-) :-) :-) Next lesson will be on svn blame :-)	[05:13]
Anzhe	commit comment rage? ;-)	[05:13]
marclaporte	I suggest you commit to trunk since there could be a change in behavior and it will be your first commit	[05:14]
Anzhe	where is TW's code hosted? I haven't read up on the dev side of things at all my apologies	[05:14]
marclaporte	and gives others the chance to give feedback. And, if all good, you can backport to 11.x https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/ See http://dev.tiki.org/Commit+Code What is your SourceForge username?	[05:15]
Anzhe	ok if we're gonna be using soureforge I need to drop offline for a moment and turn on my VPN SF is blocked in China >_>	[05:15]
marclaporte	ok	[05:15]
Anzhe	and I'll also make a new SF username back in 5 minutes I guess joined #tikiwiki Anzhe waves at marc ok, I'm VPN'd and registered	[05:15]
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marclaporte	I need your username	[05:29]
Anzhe	anzhe	[05:29]
marclaporte	while you read: http://dev.tiki.org/3+Rules	[05:29]
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Anzhe	Anzhe has finished reading the 3 Rules and 3 Rules Extended Edition	[05:32]
marclaporte	You can commit access: https://sourceforge.net/users/anzhe	[05:32]
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Anzhe	marclaporte: one moment please, subordinate just came in marclaporte: ok, I'm back. All of my pet projets are on BitBucket, so I have TortoiseHg installed. Do you recommend I add TortoiseSVN or use PHPStorm's internal SVN tools?	[05:33]
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marclaporte	I guess try first with PHPStorm	[05:39]
Anzhe	for anyone reading this log post facto, we're taking a break from the exercise while I get my SVN integration in PHPStorm sorted	[05:53]
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TomJarvis	joined #tikiwiki polom I have been following the mentoring session while I wait for a scan to complete. The scan ended so I am shutting down for the night. I will have to see how it ends tomorrow.	[06:26]
marclaporte	TomJarvis: you will do your 1st commit as well?	[06:33]
TomJarvis	I am interested in the possibility, but I am stuck on tiki 9 (php level problem) so I probably can't participate until I get that fixed. Someone asked about showing titles in the file galleries slide show. The support for it is in the tpl file, has that been added in Tiki's above 9?	[06:35]
marclaporte	I don't know use demo.tiki.org to check quickly do you have your commit access yet?	[06:37]
TomJarvis	I do not have commit access.	[06:43]
marclaporte	ok, let's get that part solved and you can commit later, when you are ready	[06:44]
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marclaporte	I just need your SourceForge username hi Bert_	[06:44]
Bert_	I'm trying to add a link to an image, but when I do, it opens the link on a different window, how do i get it to open in the same window?	[06:45]
marclaporte	is the link on same domain?	[06:46]
Bert_	yes	[06:46]
marclaporte	are you using relative or absolute link?	[06:46]
Bert_	absolute	[06:47]
marclaporte	try relative	[06:47]
Bert_	will do, will report back in a few Great! It's working Marc	[06:47]
marclaporte	super!	[06:50]
TomJarvis	My SourceForge username is tomjrvs, at least that is what I put in the "Community members information". I am away from home and I don't find it in my laptop's passwordsafe.	[06:50]
marclaporte	Bert_: and it's better if ever you change your domain name in the future	[06:50]
Bert_	Another question, I'm trying to add google authorship for differnt users. What's the easiest way to do so. Right now I'm creating a category for each users, and then adding the code through a module and parsing the module by categories. This way is kinda annoying, what's a better solution? To sum it up, I need a way to add items to a page base on the creator of that page.	[06:51]
TomJarvis	Bert: Write a plugin.	[06:53]
marclaporte	TomJarvis: you have commit access: https://sourceforge.net/u/tomjrvs/profile/	[06:53]
TomJarvis	I tested file galleries slide show in demo tiki 11. There is no option to request the description in the settings, and it does not display.	[06:54]
Bert_	Write a plugin? I wouldn't know where to start lol	[06:54]
marclaporte	Bert_: what is "google authorship" ?	[06:55]
TomJarvis	I tried the slideshow URL appending caption=d and it does a brief list of the description before the start of the slideshow, but it didn't change the slideshow.	[06:55]
Bert_	It shows a pic of the author of the page on google search results https://plus.google.com/authorship	[06:55]
marclaporte	So like a more from this author type of thing?	[06:56]
TomJarvis	Thank you for the commit access.	[06:57]
Bert_	Marc for the picture to show, I need to add a link of that user's 'google' profile for every article they create, i'm not sure how to do that.	[06:58]
marclaporte	Bert_: 1st thing, Tiki would need a mapping of Tiki usernames and corresponding Google IDs	[07:01]
Bert_	How would I go about doing that? I'm new to tikiwiki	[07:01]
marclaporte	Not sure but It reminds me a bot of http://doc.tiki.org/Interoperability#Gravatar bot -> bit	[07:02]
Bert_	cool, will look into that, thanks for your help, i'm out, have a nice night/morning lol	[07:04]
Anzhe	marclaporte: regarding the impact of changes to the English UI text on other lang files, what is the responsibility of the person changing the UI? should they update the root lang string in every lang file and let localizers update the result straing *string	[07:05]
TomJarvis	Good night	[07:06]
Anzhe	or should they leave the root string as is and there is some sort of auto update tool that handles that? how does it work	[07:06]
marclaporte	Anzhe: there is a script for that (get_strings.php), run at each release. So you can run anytime and commit if you want, or do nothing and it will happen automagically	[07:07]
Anzhe	ok	[07:08]
marclaporte	so those now broken translations will fade away	[07:08]
Anzhe	interesting	[07:08]
marclaporte	And the new one will be added in comments in SVN, so translators know it's there (but these commented out string are deleted at packaging time to save disk space)	[07:14]
Anzhe	marclaporte: I'm actually in the office today :-) so I need to focus on some non-Tiki projects for the remainder of the day, thank you for all your help, we'll resume in a day or two	[07:24]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: - Not possible to save page - http://dev.tiki.org/item4612	[20:28]
Tiki-KGB	03lphuberdeau r46982 10trunk/lib/ 10(46 files in 11 dirs) * [ENH] Move Lucene implementation to be more symetric to elastic and mysql	[20:30]
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luciash	polom polom	[21:16]
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RobertR	Take care all	[23:34]

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