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laureidoes anyone know if there is an API to call a rendered tikiwiki page without the headers and footers, etc? [02:03]
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fabriciushi laurei [02:32]
laureihey fabricius [02:32]
fabriciusfor what you need that? [02:32]
laureibasically what I'm trying to do is call a wiki page from an external website [02:32]
fabriciusmaybe with a perspective
subdomain to a perspective and deactivate all module areas in that perspective
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laureiI have a project management system which i would like to be able to reference a wiki page for each project [02:33]
fabriciusmaybe the easiest way [02:33]
laureiI can't change domains because its all SSL
i just thought there'd be an api to do that
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fabriciuswhy you cant't change domain?
with ssl
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laureiwe are using ssl and only have one certificate
its extended validation and can't have subdomains on it
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fabriciusyou cannot use the same certificate with a subdomain? [02:34]
laureino [02:34]
fabriciusin the same installation/database?
hmm
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laureiso there doesn't exist an api for what I'd like [02:35]
fabriciusdo you want to use the same page with modules around at the same time, or only included? [02:35]
laureispeaking architecturally, what would i need to create one? [02:35]
fabriciusnot an API if I understand that well, but the should be opportunities
a perspective?
just activate and click on a button or so
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laureiI'm only new to tikiwiki, the only thing i have used extensively is the RBAC / permissions / LDAP logins, and of course editing (w/svg) [02:36]
fabriciuswhat is RBAC? [02:37]
laureirole based access control [02:37]
fabriciusahh :-) [02:37]
laureiwhat is the perspective thing [02:39]
fabriciusa perspective is kind of a layer of the website [02:40]
laureii could just include it I guess, at the very least i could just wrap CURL into an API [02:40]
fabriciusyou can change most of the preferences for a website
themes modules, etc.
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laureinice [02:41]
fabriciusmodule areas [02:41]
laureibut that's based on subdomains etc is it [02:41]
fabriciusyou could in extreme make a different website out of a perspective, but it is more for workgroups
no - is an option to use a subdomain for a perspective
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fabriciustiki-admin.php?page=features
activate a perspective
tiki-edit_perspective.php
create a perspective
tiki-edit_perspective.php?action=edit&id=1&cookietab=3
edit the perspective
search for a permission and drag it in the field above
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laureiso I've created one called "raw" [02:44]
fabriciusthen chanche it - for ex, tick or untick, change a title, etc.
/s/chanche/change
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laureiok that sounds pretty powerful
how does a user choose a perspective
or a consumer service in my case
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fabriciusthere is a module you can activate
tiki-admin_modules.php
the name of the module is ...
perspective
:-)
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another hint of a community collegue right now: use the fullscreen mode [02:57]
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fabriciusbut why referencing INTO the project anagement tool? [03:00]
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fabriciusor you build something with php -> https://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World
better use Tiki natively
so, have to head on with different stuff
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laureifabricius: After all the work put into creating and updating a wiki, I'd just really love to use the information in other websites, and allow others to do the same. Which of these methods would you suggest, or should I just program something up. [04:13]
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fabriciusprogram something up, make it optional, commit it to Tiki as deactivated by default
<- laurei
if you want to commit some embedding code creating thing for Tiki
or program something for the other software, if you do not want to make the content public
so kind of a "bridge" that takes the data from the Tiki database and publishes in the project management tool
you could think about XMLRPC, which is used in Tiuki
in Tiki for Intertiki
anyway, i do not really understand the point -> if you love to use the information "in other websites" just provide links to your Tiki website and create an area for each project - either with limited access or open
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laureifabricius: was thinking JSON would really fit what we are doing [05:19]
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fabriciuscool [05:47]
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Polom
Kussmaul still around?
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kussmaul ?
Still looking for a "ceremony" master?
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kussmaulxavi-mobile: yes, please! [20:47]
xavi-mobile:-)
xavi-mobile puts the ceremony hat on
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kussmaulkussmaul hopes I'm dressed appropriately :-) [20:49]
xavi-mobileSo, you just need to answer a few questions o
Questipn 1, just by curiosity :-): where are you from?
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kussmaulBethlehem, PA, USA [20:50]
xavi-mobileWohoo, never been there, but nice to see more coders from usa
Question2: have you read and understood the 3 rules?
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kussmaulnot far from Philadelphia and NYC
yes, I understand the 3 rules
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xavi-mobileQuestion 3: what's you sf.net username? [20:53]
kussmaulsf username is kussmaul
I try to be consistent :-)
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xavi-mobile:-)
So.... Congratylations, yiu are in!
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kussmaulthank you!
now the real work begins, I suppose
I have a few Qs
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xavi-mobileOk
Fire...
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kussmaula. is MultiTiki common and reliable, or experimental? [20:58]
xavi-mobileHe he, I'm a big fan of multitiki, And using it in production since 2004
So fairly reliable, as you can imagine
Common? It depends
Some of us use it a lot (you save space for many projects)
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kussmaulb. do tiki developers typically use stable releases for production sites, and SVN trunk for dev & testing, or is the trunk stable enough for production? [21:01]
xavi-mobileSome other devs prefer trim, for instance [21:02]
kussmaulreliable is good - I've used shared code for drupal and moinmoin sites and liked it [21:02]
xavi-mobileB1 is the answer to b
Trunk for production??? That's probably a recent rare edge case
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kussmaulc. how often have students or teams in classes contributed to tiki - I may do this later on [21:04]
xavi-mobileImho, not common at all
C:: very seldom, afaik, even if it has happened in the early days, and recently again
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kussmaulstable for production makes sense, but then not many people are actively using the trunk [21:06]
xavi-mobileBtw, somewhat related, I guess. Have you seen http://edu.tiki.org ? [21:07]
kussmaulno, I haven't, but will check it out
for c, I teach a project based software engineering course and I usually have a few assignments where students study and then propose fixes/enhancements to a FOSS project
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xavi-mobileNot many but important companies in the Tikiverse such as Citadel Rock, in Canada , started doing this recently
And imho, trunk seems much more usable in the last months
Projects with your students: nice! :-)
You'll like the workspaces-ui then!
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fabriciushi kussmund [21:12]
xavi-mobileAnd hopefully your students might even add other tiki objects to it
http://doc.tiki.org/Workspaces-ui
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fabriciusI use SVN_Branch (9 and 11) for nearly every project atm.
Trunk I would only use for testing or early development of a site, when branching is expected earlier than website release
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xavi-mobileOh well, I'm running out of time for today.. Fabricius or marclaporte will be able to answer other questions of yours [21:15]
kussmaulgreat - thank you very much, xavi [21:15]
xavi-mobileSo welcome onboard, and see/read yiu around!
Don't miss the next webinars!
Cheers
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