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fabricius: hi laurei
laurei: hey fabricius
fabricius: for what you need that?
laurei: basically what I'm trying to do is call a wiki page from an external website
fabricius: maybe with a perspective
subdomain to a perspective and deactivate all module areas in that perspective
laurei: I have a project management system which i would like to be able to reference a wiki page for each project
fabricius: maybe the easiest way
laurei: I can't change domains because its all SSL
i just thought there'd be an api to do that
fabricius: why you cant't change domain?
with ssl
laurei: we are using ssl and only have one certificate
its extended validation and can't have subdomains on it
fabricius: you cannot use the same certificate with a subdomain?
laurei: no
fabricius: in the same installation/database?
hmm
laurei: so there doesn't exist an api for what I'd like
fabricius: do you want to use the same page with modules around at the same time, or only included?
laurei: speaking architecturally, what would i need to create one?
fabricius: not an API if I understand that well, but the should be opportunities
a perspective?
just activate and click on a button or so
laurei: I'm only new to tikiwiki, the only thing i have used extensively is the RBAC / permissions / LDAP logins, and of course editing (w/svg)
fabricius: what is RBAC?
laurei: role based access control
fabricius: ahh :-)
laurei: what is the perspective thing
fabricius: a perspective is kind of a layer of the website
laurei: i could just include it I guess, at the very least i could just wrap CURL into an API
fabricius: you can change most of the preferences for a website
themes modules, etc.
laurei: nice
fabricius: module areas
laurei: but that's based on subdomains etc is it
fabricius: you could in extreme make a different website out of a perspective, but it is more for workgroups
no - is an option to use a subdomain for a perspective
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fabricius: tiki-admin.php?page=features
activate a perspective
tiki-edit_perspective.php
create a perspective
tiki-edit_perspective.php?action=edit&id=1&cookietab=3
edit the perspective
search for a permission and drag it in the field above
laurei: so I've created one called "raw"
fabricius: then chanche it - for ex, tick or untick, change a title, etc.
/s/chanche/change
laurei: ok that sounds pretty powerful
how does a user choose a perspective
or a consumer service in my case
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fabricius: there is a module you can activate
tiki-admin_modules.php
the name of the module is ...
perspective
:-)
another hint of a community collegue right now: use the fullscreen mode
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fabricius: but why referencing INTO the project anagement tool?
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fabricius: or you build something with php -> https://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World
better use Tiki natively
so, have to head on with different stuff
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laurei: fabricius: After all the work put into creating and updating a wiki, I'd just really love to use the information in other websites, and allow others to do the same. Which of these methods would you suggest, or should I just program something up.
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fabricius: program something up, make it optional, commit it to Tiki as deactivated by default
<- laurei
if you want to commit some embedding code creating thing for Tiki
or program something for the other software, if you do not want to make the content public
so kind of a "bridge" that takes the data from the Tiki database and publishes in the project management tool
you could think about XMLRPC, which is used in Tiuki
in Tiki for Intertiki
anyway, i do not really understand the point -> if you love to use the information "in other websites" just provide links to your Tiki website and create an area for each project - either with limited access or open
laurei: fabricius: was thinking JSON would really fit what we are doing
fabricius: cool
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Polom
Kussmaul still around?
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kussmaul ?
Still looking for a "ceremony" master?
kussmaul: xavi-mobile: yes, please!
xavi-mobile: :-)
-: xavi-mobile puts the ceremony hat on
kussmaul: kussmaul hopes I'm dressed appropriately :-)
xavi-mobile: So, you just need to answer a few questions o
Questipn 1, just by curiosity :-): where are you from?
kussmaul: Bethlehem, PA, USA
xavi-mobile: Wohoo, never been there, but nice to see more coders from usa
Question2: have you read and understood the 3 rules?
kussmaul: not far from Philadelphia and NYC
yes, I understand the 3 rules
xavi-mobile: Question 3: what's you sf.net username?
kussmaul: sf username is kussmaul
I try to be consistent :-)
xavi-mobile: :-)
So.... Congratylations, yiu are in!
kussmaul: thank you!
now the real work begins, I suppose
I have a few Qs
xavi-mobile: Ok
Fire...
kussmaul: a. is MultiTiki common and reliable, or experimental?
xavi-mobile: He he, I'm a big fan of multitiki, And using it in production since 2004
So fairly reliable, as you can imagine
Common? It depends
Some of us use it a lot (you save space for many projects)
kussmaul: b. do tiki developers typically use stable releases for production sites, and SVN trunk for dev & testing, or is the trunk stable enough for production?
xavi-mobile: Some other devs prefer trim, for instance
kussmaul: reliable is good - I've used shared code for drupal and moinmoin sites and liked it
xavi-mobile: B1 is the answer to b
Trunk for production??? That's probably a recent rare edge case
kussmaul: c. how often have students or teams in classes contributed to tiki - I may do this later on
xavi-mobile: Imho, not common at all
C:: very seldom, afaik, even if it has happened in the early days, and recently again
kussmaul: stable for production makes sense, but then not many people are actively using the trunk
xavi-mobile: Btw, somewhat related, I guess. Have you seen http://edu.tiki.org ?
kussmaul: no, I haven't, but will check it out
for c, I teach a project based software engineering course and I usually have a few assignments where students study and then propose fixes/enhancements to a FOSS project
xavi-mobile: Not many but important companies in the Tikiverse such as Citadel Rock, in Canada , started doing this recently
And imho, trunk seems much more usable in the last months
Projects with your students: nice! :-)
You'll like the workspaces-ui then!
fabricius: hi kussmund
xavi-mobile: And hopefully your students might even add other tiki objects to it
http://doc.tiki.org/Workspaces-ui
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fabricius: I use SVN_Branch (9 and 11) for nearly every project atm.
Trunk I would only use for testing or early development of a site, when branching is expected earlier than website release
xavi-mobile: Oh well, I'm running out of time for today.. Fabricius or marclaporte will be able to answer other questions of yours
kussmaul: great - thank you very much, xavi
xavi-mobile: So welcome onboard, and see/read yiu around!
Don't miss the next webinars!
Cheers
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