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[16:41] jonnyb long time no polom
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[16:44] jonnyb hi marclaporte and all
[16:46] marclaporte polom
[16:55] Telesight When parts of the system are translated when are they added, in a new update?
[16:58] lphuberdeau last time I checked, i18n.tiki.org runs trunk, so translations go to the next major release
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[17:56] marclaporte jonnyb: about suite.tiki.org vs tiki.org perspectives / areas
[17:57] marclaporte I am wondering what we should do going forward
[17:57] jonnyb hi marclaporte - yes?
[17:57] marclaporte Well http://dev.tiki.org/Areas+Perspective+Multi-domain+dogfood is supposed to reduce the proliferation of new *.tiki.org sites
[17:58] marclaporte So we are not there yet, and it's bad for SEO
[17:58] marclaporte so I am wondering if I should just spin off suite.tiki.org to a different Tiki
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[18:02] jonnyb the problem i've been having is that when i set up a test locally or on a spare server i seem to be able to get it to work ok, so we need a shared place where you can set something up and i can work out why it's not working, but not this week/month sorry, so if you need this immediately i'm afraid a new tiki would be safest
[18:02] jonnyb apologies - i know you've wanted this for a long time (i have tried ;) )
[18:02] jonnyb hi fabricius1 and fabricius
[18:03] marclaporte shared place: like next.tiki.org (and we add nextsuite.tiki.org to it?)
[18:03] fabricius1 hi jonny
[18:03] fabricius1 I cannot chenge my nick
[18:03] fabricius1 where am I
[18:04] jonnyb :)
[18:04] fabricius1 can s.b. kick fabricius, for that I can change my nick to myself? :-)
[18:04] jonnyb marclaporte: probably not, i would need file access to it ideally - maybe on demo.t.o?
[18:05] jonnyb (i did set one up there once but it's gone now)
[18:05] fabricius1 marc
[18:05] fabricius1 marclaporte: hi
[18:05] marclaporte hi fabricius1
[18:06] fabricius1 coincident, that you are talking about perspectives right at this moment :-D
[18:06] marclaporte hehe
[18:06] marclaporte I'll be back in 15 min
[18:07] fabricius ahh have my name back :-)
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[18:16] marclaporte back
[18:17] fabricius rehi
[18:17] fabricius in the last few days I did think about the perspectives issue a few times
[18:19] fabricius marclaporte and jonny: I am sure, that the major issue is a mass-categorisation of all tiki.org-objects to one commonly shared category
[18:19] fabricius minus the objects for suite.tiki.org
[18:20] fabricius every area which is additionally to the "default area" then gets a new category
[18:20] jonnyb areas don't need everything to be categorised any more - it should deal with uncategorised stuff too
[18:20] fabricius and we create the custom module in the page top, which luci and I figured out in Barcelona
[18:21] jonnyb sorry, running out of day and need to focus - more tomorrow :)
[18:21] fabricius arrgl
[18:21] fabricius marclaporte: what is the last state of the art with the feature?
[18:22] marclaporte It mostly works
[18:22] fabricius marclaporte: I am a bit confused, as my last info from jonny a few month ago was, that we do not continue the development and use the Barcelona workaround/solution
[18:23] marclaporte But when in suite.tiki.org and going back to main perspective, the domain name doesn't change to tiki.org
[18:23] fabricius so there is a hack for using "uncategorised" as default?
[18:23] marclaporte I think if everything was just one domain name, it would mostly work  (but I am not sure(
[18:24] fabricius so you are in the default perspective and still have suite.tiki.org?
[18:25] fabricius but marclaporte the trick IS to have the opportunity to use different domains and using one Tiki for different websites
[18:25] fabricius so it is still workspace and area is still NOT working
[18:26] fabricius Tiki must identify non-suite content and then switch back to default (without subdomain)
[18:26] fabricius HOW Tiki should identify the uncategoriesed object?
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[18:28] fabricius the trick is:
[18:28] fabricius if categoryId=X do this
[18:28] fabricius elseif categoryId=Y do that
[18:28] fabricius endif
[18:28] fabricius uncategorised objects are visible in all perspectives
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[18:42] fabricius in other words marclaporte:
[18:42] fabricius tiki.org/to-content -> always default perspective (0) and tiki.org
[18:42] fabricius suite.tiki.org/suite-content -> always perspective 57 and suite.tiki.org
[18:42] fabricius tiki.org/suite-content -> always switch to suite.tiki/suite-content (persp. 57)
[18:42] fabricius suite.tiki.org/to-content -> always switch to tiki.org/to-content (persp. 0)
[18:42] fabricius perspectiveId = 57 is just an example
[18:44] marclaporte yes
[18:44] fabricius that means, that content objects must be identified, if they are global or area restricted
[18:44] marclaporte Is http://suite.tiki.org/ configured that way at the moment?
[18:44] fabricius object identification = categories
[18:45] fabricius afaik all suite objects have one common category
[18:45] marclaporte Well, if categorized in suite, do the suite.tiki.org perspective
[18:45] marclaporte if not categorized in suite, it should do the tiki.org perpective and theme
[18:45] fabricius but if categorised in default, do the default perspective is not existing
[18:46] fabricius hmmm let me check, how I did it with the other project LLMsomething
[18:46] fabricius on dev.t.o
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[18:51] fabricius marclaporte: I made a custom module: "perspective_autoswitch_LLDev" with the following code:
[18:51] fabricius {if isset($objectCategoryIds) and in_array(257, $objectCategoryIds)}
[18:51] fabricius {wiki}{literal}{REDIRECT(perspective=3) /}{/literal}{/wiki}{/if}
[18:52] fabricius 1) what I do not remember is, why non-LLDec content still switches back to the default perspective
[18:53] fabricius 2) this "solution" is not with domain, but only workspace like with limiting content to a perspective
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[18:56] fabricius marclaporte: I am sure, that the Barcelona solution technically works perfectly - I am only concerned about loading times (performance), but without trying, we might never know
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[19:19] marclaporte fabricius:  what do we do with http://demo.tiki.org/tiki_org_revamp/tiki-index.php ?  Keep or delete?
[19:25] fabricius demo.tiki.org should be resetted after every certain period
[19:25] fabricius it is a place for demoinstration and testing, but not for information
[19:26] fabricius -i
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[19:28] fabricius we should have a cronjob to reset most of the database every so often.
[19:30] fabricius marclaporte: I see no point to keep or delete single objects in demo.tiki.org ... just the usertables and apart from that reset to default database tables every week or so
[19:34] Lauwenmark Hello. I've tried to install tiki on a server behind an apache reverse proxy, but it doesn't properly build the base URL for the website: it uses "http://<internal-hostname>/..." instead of "http://<external-hostname>/...". How do I explicitely tell tiki the proper base URL to use?
[19:35] marclaporte Lauwenmark: which version of Tiki?
[19:35] Lauwenmark marclaporte: This is tiki 9.6.
[19:37] marclaporte Lauwenmark: there has been work in Tiki 11 and 12 in this area, which makes les common servers work seamlessly
[19:38] marclaporte Lauwenmark: I would suggest to do a test upgrade to latest 11.x and see it makes a difference. Then, evaluate if it's better to try to figure what the change is or just upgrade
[19:38] marclaporte see it ->  see if it
[19:39] fabricius if the internal hostname points to a directory tree in which Tiki is installed, you need this:
[19:39] fabricius http://internal-hostname/path-to-tiki-document-root
[19:39] fabricius tiki-document-root is the unpacked folder of Tiki, in which you find the htaccess, the folders like /db, /styles, /templates, /lib, etc.
[19:41] Lauwenmark marclaporte: Ok. I see that my browser directed me to the French version of the tiki.org main page by default, and that one was way out of date, suggesting 9.6 as the latest stable. I'll install the 11.x one and see if it has the required option.
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[19:47] marclaporte Lauwenmark: translation is too slow for Tiki release cycle ;-)
[19:49] Lauwenmark marclaporte: If I get enough time at "work" this week, maybe I'll translate the current English front page :)
[20:06] Lauwenmark marclaporte: Ok, the 11 version still shows the same issue - attempting to login (for example) from http://<external>/tiki-index.php redirects me to http://<internal>/tiki-login.php . Any idea of where I could try to tweak things?
[20:29] marclaporte Lauwenmark:  I would try trunk next: https://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build
[20:29] marclaporte I will try to find the commit
[20:30] marclaporte Lauwenmark:  Is this related? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/29274/focus=29275
[20:33] Lauwenmark marclaporte: This is indeed a similar setup. In my case, the HTTP server and reverse proxy is apache, not nginx. But otherwise yes, it is a similar configuration from what I can tell.
[20:34] Lauwenmark marclaporte: And as with "Gour" in the conversation, I can only set the backend server configurations - the reverse proxy configuration itself cannot be modified.
[20:42] marclaporte lphuberdeau is the wizard for this
[20:42] marclaporte (even if he says he is not) :-)
[20:42] Lauwenmark :)
[20:45] Lauwenmark Well, either there exists a parameter to explicitely set the website base URL (in that case, I'm saved), or there is none (in that case, I have to rule out Tiki). I don't think there is a possibility for Tiki to automagically determine the base URL in such situations.
[20:59] marclaporte Here is a third possibility: someone adds it to Tiki :-)
[21:00] Lauwenmark Indeed, though it would be too late to get it deployed in my specific case :)
[21:03] Lauwenmark (damn, already time to go to "work"... I'll be back in one hour or so)
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[22:09] Telesight Is it also possible to get the translated parts of tikiwiki earlier than the next release?
[22:10] Lauwenmark (re)
[22:11] marclaporte Telesight: yes
[22:11] * marclaporte wishes Olaf, the Translation Team coordinator was there to answer
[22:12] marclaporte Lauwenmark: what is your timeline for this project?
[22:12] Telesight Marclaporte: Is there an export or something?
[22:14] marclaporte So you can get latest translation from trunk http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/lang/ and just download the file and replace the one for your version
[22:15] Telesight Marclaporte: I am translating now, and offcourse I can not wait till a new release ;-)
[22:16] Lauwenmark marclaporte: "As Soon As Possible" :) But realistically, there should be the basic website up for the end of this week (Sunday)
[22:21] Telesight marclaporte: Are the translations from http://i18n.tiki.org the ones you gave in your link?
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