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[13:26] xavi polom
[13:27] jonnyb hi xavi
[13:27] xavi hi jonnyb
[13:27] xavi I'm doing a profile, and at some point, it doesn't load in the admin panel for profiles
[13:27] xavi http://profiles.tiki.org/Dynamic+items+list
[13:27] xavi I need some help from some profile (yaml) guru
[13:28] xavi Tiki 12.x doesn't provide any more info at this point about why it doesn't load
[13:32] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r48388 10trunk/styles/ 04960_gs 04960_gs.css * [KIL] With Bootstrap added, 960.gs grid framework is redundant.
[13:35] jonnyb ok, having a quick look xavi
[13:35] xavi thks jonnyb
[13:36] jonnyb the first object block looks like it's indented 2 spaces - should be one no?
[13:36] jonnyb (stupid yaml)
[13:36] xavi mmmmm (looking)
[13:37] jonnyb same in the "Service Tracker" section
[13:37] * jonnyb thinks xavi is brave for trying this
[13:37] xavi mmm, I mean, everything was working fine, Until I added the sections about "Objects" (Sample data)
[13:38] xavi by Objects I mean "Objects in Products Tracker" and "Objects in Service Tracker"
[13:39] * xavi is not "so" brave, but took the oportunity to clone the dynamic items list example created by a user in a show.t.o instance :-)
[13:40] xavi mmmm, maybe lphuberdeau , when he is around, can have a look, if it's not too obvious for you?
[13:41] xavi it's not an obvious error for me, at least, and I don't know how to get more info in some magic js console or something about the source of the issue
[13:43] jonnyb hi chibaguy
[13:43] jonnyb you still awake?
[13:43] chibaguy hi jonny. yes, still awake. :-)
[13:44] xavi hi Gary
[13:44] jonnyb think you missed the templates/styles/960_gs? (more to KIL?)
[13:44] chibaguy hi xavi.
[13:44] chibaguy heh, yes, I'll kil that too.
[13:44] jonnyb hurrah!
[13:44] xavi Gary-the-Killer :-)
[13:45] chibaguy Hmm. ;-)
[13:45] jonnyb xavi: the objects section looks ok to me
[13:45] jonnyb there are a few YAML syntax highlighters that might help
[13:47] xavi OK, Jonny. I'll send a message to lphuberdeau to see if he is more lucky getting why the profile  http://profiles.tiki.org/Dynamic+items+list doesn't load
[13:48] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r48389 04trunk/templates/styles/960_gs
[13:48] Tiki-KGB [KIL] With Bootstrap added, 960.gs grid framework is redundant. Thanks for reminding me about the tpls, Jonny.
[13:48] jonnyb :)
[13:50] chibaguy jonnyb, can you overcome your airport allergy for the TikiFest coming up?
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[13:50] jonnyb no sorry, not yet
[13:50] jonnyb promised myself no air travel until next year
[13:50] jonnyb will be there a lot virtually though
[13:54] xavi chibaguy: One for you, while you are still around. Do you know how to fix the login popup box in http://iesgogreen.seeds4c.org ?
[13:54] xavi I added a few css things to try to improve it, but still not full width, I don't know why...
[13:54] chibaguy Ok, I understand. I hope we can have a good setup for communicating in the sessions.
[13:55] xavi and I don't get how to make it full width
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[13:56] chibaguy xavi, I'm looking at it now.
[13:56] xavi thks
[13:59] chibaguy I don't know what .css file it's in, but ul.siteloginbar_poppedup has a  "width: 12em !important;" that should be removed or changed, it seems.
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[14:03] xavi ok, I'll try
[14:07] xavi thanks chibaguy, fixed with something like ul.siteloginbar_poppedup {  width:675px !important; }
[14:07] chibaguy Ok.
[14:07] fabricius polom
[14:08] xavi added in the css customization, since I'm reluctant to change the source css files, which I don't fully get why ni that site they don't load properly, etc.
[14:08] xavi hi fabricius
[14:08] fabricius I see some guys are working oin the login popup .. cool
[14:08] jonnyb hi fabricius
[14:09] xavi fabricius: is the login popup failing in other themes?
[14:09] * jonnyb reckons that if your CSS line ends in !important you've got something wrong usually...
[14:10] xavi yes :-), wrong somewhere else, but at least it currently works, and I can't invest much more time into it right now
[14:10] fabricius yes: in a first test I tried plain "Bootswatch themes" with and without @include design.css and the login popup fails
[14:11] jonnyb xavi: not meaning to tell you off - i know, sometimes you just need to hit things with a hammer to get them to work in time, it's just there's probably a better fix hidden underneath somewhere ;)
[14:11] fabricius I think we need somekind of tiki specific design.css at some point for a while
[14:12] xavi jonnyb, I fully agree :-)
[14:12] fabricius what you think guys -> I strongly wish, that we go the rout to use "untouched" bootstrap themes .. I mean if a user uses plain Bootstrap based themes like from Bootswatch
[14:13] fabricius if software specific themes would be used (like Wordpress Bootstrap) then I think further custoisation would be acceptable - but then better with a customised set of templates
[14:14] fabricius I do not like the idea to for example download a Bootswatch theme and having to customise the file itself.
[14:15] chibaguy fabricius, I believe the goal is that a "pure" Bootstrap theme should work with Tiki, and everything will work. But to get to that goal, a lot of modifications are still needed in the templates and Smarty that generate the HTML. Also probably a CSS file will be needed to cover things that the Bootstrap file doesn't cover.
[14:16] fabricius chibaguy: I absolutely agree
[14:16] chibaguy That said, a lot of "Bootstrap" themes for Wordpress and Joomla, etc. add divs in their template or php files that Tiki doesn't have, so those themes aren't going to work without special layout_view.tpl files, or some such thing.
[14:17] chibaguy I looked at some of those themes, and there's a lot of theme-specific HTML added.
[14:17] chibaguy Seems like it's part of the business model for theme-making for those platforms.
[14:18] chibaguy "Buy our theme and get special widgets and layouts" etc.
[14:21] fabricius In my opinion we should research for free plain bootstrap themes and develop some nice own ones.
[14:21] fabricius For free external themes we might have some licence issues to take into account.
[14:22] fabricius For example the Bootswatch themes are GPL and we cannot include them directly in Tiki
[14:22] chibaguy Yeah, I don't think we need to include/bundle a lot of themes as long as we provide an easy way for people to install them as part of or after the Tiki installation.
[14:23] chibaguy But we need to try to accommodate external Bootstrap themes as much as possible.
[14:24] fabricius If you download the Bootswatch themes, they all are named bootstrap.css ... so I have to rename each one to the original name (amelia.css, simplex.css, etc.) when I want to use them besides each other - for ex to present them and to make them switchable in a module
[14:27] chibaguy That's right. They are made by compiling the Bootstrap Less files with different variables for color, etc.
[14:28] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r48390 10trunk/styles/ 10(23 files in 5 dirs)
[14:28] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Of course the theme stylesheets need many changes, but for now at least the font size property is removed so the text is large enough to read.
[14:28] chibaguy We'll need to decide on some strategies to support use of generated bootstrap.css files, I imagine.
[14:30] chibaguy I imagine in Look and Feel there could be a switch like "Use the default bootstrap.css and I'll override it partially with my custom theme" OR "navigate to my custom bootstrap.css theme". (with more elegant wording of course ;-) ).
[14:34] chibaguy By generated bootstrap.css file I mean this: http://getbootstrap.com/customize/ or http://pikock.github.io/bootstrap-magic/app/index.html#!/editor .
[14:47] fabricius chibaguy: I do not so much understand
[14:50] fabricius another thing: previously we used #header, #col1,2,3, #pagetop,pagebottom, #footer to identify the module zones/columns
[14:50] fabricius How we want to call them in future? are there best practices or common used namings out there we should prefer?
[14:51] * fabricius has to go shopping around the corner - bbl
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[18:34] Tiki-KGB Thanks Arild
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[19:36] Tiki-KGB Thanks Geoff
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[19:56] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - Auto TOC urls are different than MakeToc  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4902
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