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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50090 10trunk 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Profile/InstallHandler/BlogPost.php * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50085 to 50089 | [00:00] |
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hello, I am in need of s.o who canhelp me setup a wiki CMS for my company im new to the sys | [09:19] |
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| xavi | polom
Jyhem_: , try the new ("refurbished", in fact) Easy (Geo)Blog profile: http://profiles.tiki.org/Easy+GeoBlog ;-) bbl | [09:41] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50091 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_community.tpl
[FIX]Re-add Friendship Network to the Admin Wizard since it has been revamped and apparently eased its configuration also in Tiki12. Thanks marclaporte | [13:22] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: How to add new objects to Workspaces UI (simple or advanced mode) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51346 | [14:58] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03lphuberdeau r50092 10trunk/ 10lib/goal/eventlib.php 03lib/core/Tiki/Command/GoalCheckCommand.php 10console.php 10lib/goal/goallib.php * [MOD] Adding a command to check all goals (to be used as a cron job) | [15:02] |
| xavi | bbl | [15:04] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50093 10trunk/templates/wizard/admin_community.tpl 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50089 to 50091 | [15:06] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: how to remove a module by means of applying a profile - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51349
New Forum Posts: how to rebuild search index from the profile once it's been applied - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51347 | [15:18] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03lphuberdeau r50094 10trunk/lib/ 10tikilib.php 03goal/rewardlib.php 10core/Services/Goal/Controller.php 10goal/goallib.php * [ENH] Extracting the reward-related code to a separate library | [15:42] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03lphuberdeau r50095 10trunk/templates/ 10(6 files in 4 dirs)
[MOD] Adding a navigation block for in-feature navigation to show depending on the layout used | [16:14] |
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| polom y'all | [16:55] | |
| any tiki tracker experts awake? have a performance question....
is it possible to have a tracker with 1million+ records? what sort of backend hosting recommmened for such a site? anyone ever built a tiki tracker of this size? | [17:02] | |
| lphuberdeau | I don't think I've seen that big yet, but technically feasibly - but it highly depends on the types of fields you use and how many there are
you will need a sizable mysql database with plenty of ram to keep it alive | [17:16] |
| ricks99 | thanks lph. mostly text only, image, and category.maybe 20-30 per item. but no cross-linked tracker items | [17:17] |
| lphuberdeau | then you will encounter some pains as any site reaching high volumes | [17:17] |
| ricks99 | any suggestions on backend/host providers for such a system? virutal dedicated maybe? | [17:17] |
| lphuberdeau | you need to do some math to figure out how much data you're going to have
which will impact how much ram you're going to need | [17:18] |
| robertplummer | polom
all | [17:18] |
| ricks99 | so the issue will be RAM for the mysql server?
that's where the holdup will be? | [17:18] |
| lphuberdeau | mostly, yes
you're certainly in vps/dedicated territory | [17:19] |
| ricks99 | got a guess, just off the top of your head? suggestions?
yeah, definately not bluehost shared hosting for $5/month! :) | [17:19] |
| lphuberdeau | you can get tons of ram for rather cheap nowdays
http://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en/offers.xml (same host as tiki.org, but the non-european division) | [17:22] |
| ricks99 | thanks for info | [17:23] |
| lphuberdeau | 32G should be enough ;) | [17:23] |
| ricks99 | great. thanks again. | [17:23] |
| lphuberdeau | general rule... don't store images in the DB | [17:23] |
| ricks99 | right. i meant image field in tracker. but stored in filesystm | [17:24] |
| lphuberdeau | you might want to consider installing elasticsearch too as it solves nearly all problems in the universe | [17:24] |
| ricks99 | hows it in tiki12? | [17:25] |
| lphuberdeau | was added for 12
supports 0.90.* great 1.0 was released only a few weeks ago, kinda works on 12, but some of the reporting is off due to API changes | [17:26] |
| ricks99 | cool | [17:28] |
| fabricius | lphuberdeau: does elasticsearch has to be installed on the same server than the website, or would it be possible to install on a different host (example website on a shared / managed hosting and elastic search on a vserver / dedicated server)? | [17:31] |
| lphuberdeau | it's a standalone service, so you can install it anywhere
however there is no built-in security/authentication, so you need to be careful with firewall rules | [17:31] |
| fabricius | could you point out the relevance / advantages of elastic search for a midsized or large webproject in one or two sentences lphuberdeau? I check for details on their website myself then.
I just mean, why should I consider to use it | [17:33] |
| lphuberdeau | facets - dynamic filters on search results, terrific speed no matter how complex the query, result quality, bonus features like "more like this" and advanced notifications on stored queries (Tiki13) | [17:35] |
| fabricius | ok
would that be usable / useful in a context, where data is tracked with Tiki Tracker(s) and analised with R ? | [17:36] |
| lphuberdeau | depends on if you want to select subsets of your data, but there is nothing R-specific at this time | [17:38] |
| fabricius | who (maybe xavi?) would be a spot to ask about how to get Tracker data to R and then the results back to the website (or elsewhere)? | [17:40] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50096 10branches/12.x/tiki-edit_topic.php * [FIX]Don't throw an error when editing an article topic and no email is set
03xavidp r50097 10branches/12.x/templates/tiki-admin_topics.tpl [FIX]Usability: warn admin that the option to add notification emails per article topic will be shown when the topic is re-edited after its creation. | [17:44] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: WYSIWYG and ajax auto-save - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=51353 | [17:48] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50098 10branches/12.x/lib/prefs/feature.php
[FIX]Usability: Warn the admins that they can also predefine notification emails for article topics when they re-edit the topic after its creation | [17:54] |
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late poloms | [17:56] |
| xavi | hi jonnyb | [17:56] |
| fabricius | polom | [17:56] |
| xavi | hi fabricius, btw, got distracted | [17:56] |
| fabricius | no prob
see u working :-) | [17:56] |
| xavi | the person to ask is Jyhem_, he has done some custom php code with custom sql to fetch lots of data from trackers of one project of him, and create a single big csv for R to start with | [17:57] |
| jonnyb | xavi: just saw your r50096, thought i'd mention you don't need "isset($_REQUEST['email']) && !empty($_REQUEST['email'])" - the !empty test is enough
hi fabricius | [17:57] |
| fabricius | xavi: ahh R works from cvs files!?
hi jonnyb | [17:58] |
| xavi | ah, ok, thks, jonnyb. I thought that isset had to be enough, but for some reason, the empty field there comes with isset as true, and I thought in adding another more effective check, not in replacing the previous. But thanks, I'll try to remember for next time :-)
fabricius: nope, R works from anything. You could also do the sql magic from R (if you know R and SQL), etc. but it was much simple for human minds to start from a text csv with the data that needed to be analyzed,and while they still didn't know R, they knew how to fetch the data with custom php and sql s/much simple/much simpler | [17:59] |
| jonnyb | yes, isset is true for "" or 0 or null - but !empty() would be false for all those | [18:01] |
| xavi | ok, thks jonnyb | [18:01] |
| jonnyb | there are lots of places in tiki where we get errors because isset is used where !empty would be better | [18:01] |
| fabricius | xavi: the idea is to setup an online survey .. a large conditional form for one or few research project(s) and to (more or less continuously) calculate statistical data from there. finally provide the website (and further media) with the grafical edited data. | [18:01] |
| xavi | fabricius: that's a similar use case as Jyhem's
and a potential new project in my research institute.... I wish the Report feature that robertplummer created could be dogfooded to create the initial report from the trackers.... | [18:02] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jyhem r50099 10trunk/doc/devtools/tim/tim-create
[FIX] The title indicator after the remarksbox needs to be at the start of the line | [18:04] |
| Jyhem | polom | [18:06] |
| jonnyb | hi Jyhem | [18:06] |
| Jyhem | hi jonnyb, xavi, fabricius
oh, he's gone :( I wanted to mention that the csv file is not dynamic. It's only created often (every 10 minutes) | [18:07] |
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| jonnyb | :) | [18:09] |
| Jyhem | tsss
hi fabricius I wanted to mention that the csv file is not dynamic. It's only created often (every 10 minutes). Which might or might not fit your use case | [18:09] |
| xavi | xavi 's wish: http://doc.tiki.org/Reports | [18:10] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50100 10trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php 10trunk/tiki-edit_topic.php 10trunk 10trunk/templates/tiki-admin_topics.tpl
[MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50091 to 50098 Manually resolved conflict in templates/tiki-admin_topics.tpl | [18:14] |
| Jyhem | Jyhem's current reality: https://wikispiral.org/tiki-index.php?page=Statistics&structure=wikispiral&page_ref_id=606 | [18:16] |
| jonnyb | nice graphs Jyhem :) All done with R? | [18:23] |
| Jyhem | Yes | [18:23] |
| jonnyb | you been busy :D | [18:24] |
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| xavi | version 333 ;-) | [18:25] |
| Jyhem | The only cheat is the tag clouds, which were done with R but then we just kept the image as static image :-) Because tag clouds don't need to be up to date and so less CPU load :) | [18:25] |
| xavi | Jyhem , any ideas to improve http://r.tiki.org ? | [18:26] |
| Jyhem | I don't do the actual R coding, that requires too much knowledge of what is being analysed. I provide all the infrastructure around the R code. And even a R code generator with params so other non-R coders can play with stats
Jyhem 's right now current reality is about Tiki12 upgrades, discovering <x>s and such :-( and finally using show as a user o/ Like http://dev.tiki.org/wish5156] xavi: I've only looked at http://r.tiki.orgin awe, so far. but not used it enough for improvement ideas :( | [18:27] |
| jonnyb | Jyhem: i've seen <x>'s in 12.x article html plugins too - i think it was some parsing fixes in 10 or 11 that used to let html through when it shouldn't
there is a mechanism used in wiki pages that's supposed to cope with it - guess it needs deploying to articles (blogs too probably?) | [18:33] |
| Jyhem | So far, I saw vanishing HTML plugin content in articles, and <x>s in blogs :-( | [18:35] |
| xavi | Jyhem: ok. I was wondering what else is needed for newbies getting introduced into the use of R & Tiki... | [18:35] |
| Jyhem | Jyhem will do a separate wish for blogs right now. I'm just looking at how the situation was in Tiki9 so I know if it's a regression or not.
xavi: is there a step by step ow putting data into Tiki and then creating a R output ? | [18:36] |
| xavi | nope | [18:37] |
| Jyhem | Well, that might get newbies more confident about keeping reading
You know, small successes | [18:38] |
| xavi | I wish there was some internal way to fetch from PluginR all data from a sheet, or a tracker, etc., but don't know how to do that yet | [18:38] |
| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: - allow_comments or comments from a profile blog definition stopped working - http://dev.tiki.org/item5157 | [18:39] |
| xavi | Jyhem , btw, did you read this? http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2014-02-26,Wed&sel=15#l11 | [18:43] |
| Jyhem | xavi: yes, but not acted on it yet :( | [18:49] |
| xavi | acted? did you notice that the pictures from the header are taken by you? :-)
Back in TikiFestBarcelona2 .... | [18:50] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r50101 10branches/12.x/modules/mod-func-cart.php
[MOD] cart: Add postPaymentURL param to redirect to once the payment invoice has been generated to allow customisation of the payment experience with "pretty tracker" wiki pages | [18:52] |
| Jyhem | oh, I thought you expected me to set up a new Tiki using this profile. And no, that's not my most memorable picture from TikiFestBarcelona2 :-) Didn't recognise, but I'm still proud :) | [18:57] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r50102 10trunk/modules/mod-func-cart.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50098 to 50101 | [19:02] |
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| 03manivannans r50103 10trunk/ 03lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_showpref.php 10lib/parser/parserlib.php 10templates/admin/include_textarea.tpl * New showpref wiki plugin | [19:18] | |
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| Jyhem | hmm, inserting pluginHTML in a blog post never quite worked in Tiki9 either. :-(
ohh, it did in some convoluted way... I tell you mixing html with Tiki syntax is madness :-( | [19:25] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50104 10branches/12.x/ 10tiki-edit_article.php 10tiki-edit_submission.php
[FIX]Usability: allow admins to predefine links for their users to directly access a form to post an article with predefined topicId and/or type. | [19:28] |
| xavi | Jyhem, the header changes picture at each page load (from a predefined set of 6 pics you took in TikiFestBarcelona2). It was some quick & dirty improvement to that profile, beyond that image that initially added to the former "Easy Blog" profile by then | [19:29] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50105 10trunk/tiki-edit_article.php 10trunk/tiki-edit_submission.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50101 to 50104
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| Jyhem | It seems that the pluginHTML in articles depends on having checked "Allow full HTML (Keep any HTML tag.)" in Tiki 9 (when it worked) :-(
That was awfully wrong | [19:44] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50107 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * a few translations improved | [19:52] |
| 03lphuberdeau r50108 10trunk/ 10(7 files in 5 dirs) * [MOD] Profile import/export for goals | [19:58] | |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03lphuberdeau r50109 10trunk/lib/search/searchlib-unified.php * [FIX] Update identifier field list on incremental update as required | [20:36] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50110 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_articles.php 10templates/tiki-view_articles.tpl
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r50112 10(6 files in 5 dirs)
[MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50104 to 50110 Manually resolved conflict in templates/tiki-view_articles.tpl | [20:58] |
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| xavi | c u tomorrow
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