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[12:02] Tiki-KGB [ENH]Provide info and link in a couple of admin wizard screens (login and community) to apply profile to set easily up a 'User and Registration Tracker'. First step to enhance the User Wizard based on the existance of a User Tracker. Will be backported to 12.x after 12.1 is out.
[12:12] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r50116 10trunk/ 10templates/wizard/user_wizard.tpl 10lib/wizard/pages/user_wizard.php
[12:12] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Do not hardcode major version number in the tpl but fetch it from the appropriate variable.
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[13:24] Tiki-KGB [FIX] cart: Show proper count of items in cart (two of the same thing is still two items, thanks BSfez)
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[14:51] robertplummer polom all
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[15:03] Jyhem polom
[15:03] Jyhem sorry jonnyb
[15:03] jonnyb hi Jyhem
[15:03] jonnyb hmm?
[15:04] Jyhem I just answered your commit "tikiwiki:[48131] branches/12.x/tiki-edit_article.php". It seems to cause the issue I was investigating yesterday
[15:04] fabricius polom
[15:05] fabricius hi jonnyb  and Jyhem
[15:05] jonnyb hi fabricius
[15:05] fabricius would anybody be keen on checking the standard Tiki menus and streemline the default behaviour?
[15:05] jonnyb ew, don't even remember that one :)
[15:06] jonnyb r48131 i mean Jyhem
[15:06] Jyhem xavi: do you remember some working vimeo example which would illustrate http://dev.tiki.org/wish4796 ?
[15:06] fabricius LPH last year made them behave like bootstrap and even open one additional level (compared to bootstraps original)
[15:07] robertplummer polom jonnyb
[15:07] fabricius but sadly he did that - if Gary and me remember right - only for two module areas (left and top)
[15:07] fabricius hi robertplummer
[15:07] robertplummer hi fabricius
[15:07] robertplummer fabricius: did you see we finally got toolbars working in tiki for wikiLingo in the experimental branch?
[15:07] jonnyb hi robertplummer (and everyone! :) )
[15:08] robertplummer fabricius: We are getting closer to merging back into trunk.
[15:08] Jyhem well, it replaces some $body = $_REQUEST['body']; with $body = $jitRequest->body->purifier(); and lo! all <iframe> contents of CODE and HTML tags vanish
[15:09] jonnyb hmm...
[15:10] Jyhem Also, I discover how this allowhtml stuff works in articles and… it looks apalling :-(
[15:10] fabricius robertplummer: yes
[15:10] Jyhem I assumed that when something s saved with "allowhtml", this is somewhat saved as metadata, but no :-(
[15:11] fabricius robertplummer: any keen on helping out with menus ... to at least make Bootstrap NavBar partly Tiki?
[15:11] jonnyb no, articles are very wobbly in that respect
[15:11] robertplummer Jyhem: You should take a look at how we do it wikiLingo.  That stuff is handled way more safe.  It may save some time, just fyi.
[15:12] * Jyhem dreams of some mime-type style field associated with content, so that at parsing/displaying time we don't use guesswork like $artlib->is_html(array($body) does
[15:13] jonnyb i guess what's needed is something like the code around lib/setup/editmode.php:65
[15:13] Jyhem robertplummer: does wikilingo store the format of the data along with the data ? Ideally even with version ?
[15:15] Jyhem meaning when one needs to display some content, one should be able to know if it's wiki syntax, of ckeditor syntax, or wikilinguo, and also if html is meant to be displayed of interpreted… would make things less brittle
[15:17] Jyhem jonnyb: looking right now
[15:19] robertplummer Jyhem: wikiLingo makes NO CHANGES to what you give it when it is stored.
[15:21] robertplummer Jyhem: wikiLingo only wants to output to a certain format.  Html is safe to input into wikiLingo, it detects the html tags and prevents them from being output when needed.  There are only a few html tags that are not allowed, like iframe, script, style, etc.
[15:21] Jyhem robertplummer: good, but how does anyone extracting stored content know it was stored through wikiLingo and hence unchanged ?
[15:21] robertplummer Jyhem: We added a column that tracks which output to use.  If it is blank, or no record exists for the current entity, it uses standard tiki methods, otherwise if wikiLingo is set, it uses that.
[15:22] robertplummer Jyhem: Also, this column is historically safe.
[15:22] Jyhem So it's mostly guesswork? <b> will be interpreted and <iframe< will be displayed ? Or removed?
[15:22] robertplummer Jyhem: It tracks version of the page that was used with a certain ouput.
[15:23] robertplummer Jyhem: I believe "<iframe<" will be encoded to html, as it has a special "<" character, and is not a valid html tag.
[15:23] Jyhem Ahh, great! this column you mention is exactly what I was asking about
[15:23] robertplummer "&gt;iframe&gt;" or lt, can't remember which
[15:23] Jyhem I meant <iframe>
[15:24] robertplummer Jyhem: At this point wikiLingo is far more stable than the old wysiwyg editor.  We just need implementations.
[15:24] robertplummer Jyhem: Yea, "<iframe>" is not allowed by default, and will literally look like "<iframe>" when the user visits the page.
[15:24] robertplummer Jyhem: We want to add in a means of overriding this, but security and stability are more important at this time.
[15:25] robertplummer Jyhem: And these can be overridden very easily as they are just an event that is triggered in wikiLingo.
[15:25] Jyhem and {HTML()}<iframe>{HTML} ?
[15:26] Jyhem obviously: {HTML()}<iframe>bla</iframe>{HTML}
[15:26] robertplummer Jyhem: I'll have to double check.
[15:26] Jyhem That would need to be approved, and then executed
[15:27] Jyhem while {CODE()}<iframe>bla</iframe>{CODE} would need to show literally "<iframe>bla</iframe>"
[15:31] Jyhem jonnyb: https://dev.tiki.org/Filtering+Best+Practices is totally silent about $jitRequest['edit'] but I guess I can kind of guess what your code does in lib/setup/editmode.php:65
[15:32] Jyhem let me try on http://jyhem-9952-5156.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 which will therefore be somewhat unstable/broken :)
[15:36] Jyhem robertplummer: I hope this column is not a boolean, but more like text mimetypes so in the future you can deal with wikilingo-v2 or other formats
[15:36] jonnyb sry, phone
[15:36] robertplummer Jyhem: absolutely not, it is like mimetypes
[15:41] robertplummer Jyhem: The architecture of wikiLingo makes it so that {HTML()}{HTML} is no longer needed.
[15:42] robertplummer Jyhem: By its very nature, it supports html, you don't have to call a plugin to insert it for you.
[15:43] Jyhem But you just said that some html will not work, like iframe
[15:43] robertplummer Jyhem: I meant to say that it was not allowed, it will work.
[15:44] robertplummer Jyhem: https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/blob/master/WikiLingo/Expression/Tag.php
[15:45] robertplummer applet, iframe, link, script, & style are not allowed.
[15:45] robertplummer But this can be overridden with events;
[15:46] robertplummer Thus it works, it is just not allowed by default.
[15:46] robertplummer Jyhem: Though it doesn't blow up, it just displays it as encoded html.
[15:49] * Jyhem 's customers will not like "it's not allowed anymore" and I don't want to switch off all security so it always works
[15:50] robertplummer Jyhem: That is not what I mean.  wikiLingo is it's own namespace.
[15:50] robertplummer Jyhem: The wikiLingo implementatoin in tiki isn't a default implementation.
[15:50] robertplummer Jyhem: The idea is to make it so that you can input html and scripts.  But the ability to do so will not be limited to html plugin, it is a core concept.
[15:51] robertplummer Jyhem: The end product in tiki is to make it so you can input html, and the html that "isn't allowed" by default, will simply be able to be approved, much like tiki's html plugin currently works.
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[15:53] robertplummer Jyhem: It is off by default as a framework because it isn't just in tiki, it is in Drupal, and wordpress, hence there is a much broader security implication by leaving it on than turning it off by default.
[15:54] robertplummer Jyhem: What do you think of that approach?
[15:55] Jyhem I don't understand what you mean in terms of user experience when hey wish to cut paste some code they get from youtube, vimeo and such
[16:04] lphuberdeau maybe we should include a bit of code that sends an SMS to jyhem every time a tiki user in the world includes a piece of HTML in a page so he can validate that it's safe
[16:05] robertplummer Jyhem: Picture THE SAME way they do things now, but without having to use a plugin.
[16:06] robertplummer Jyhem: Or if they wish to use a plugin for something more specific, like a youtube video, they can use a plugin for it.
[16:08] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r50118 10trunk/ 10console.php 03lib/core/Tiki/Command/ProfileBaselineCommand.php
[16:08] Tiki-KGB [MOD] Adding a patch generator to pretend a site was created using a profile by generating symbols for objects in the system, allowing further profile exports to refer to those symbols
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[16:19] robertplummer Jyhem_: Did you get my reply?
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[17:10] Jyhem robertplummer: yes, but I need to get this coding thing done
[17:11] robertplummer understood
[17:12] xavi back
[17:12] * xavi reading the back log
[17:13] Jyhem xavi: do you have an example of VIMEO plugin which works in Tiki9 and was broken in Tiki12 ? I get "Missing parameter movie to the plugin flash" when adding one in Tiki9
[17:14] xavi mmmm
[17:14] fabricius hello, I have a question
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[17:15] fabricius :-D
[17:15] fabricius I love it
[17:15] fabricius so now to my q: where in Tiki (maybe CSS) I can define the size of thumbnails?
[17:16] xavi Jyhem: this video from Vimeo seems to work in Tiki9: http://intercanvis.net/Altres#Red_de_Intercambios_de_Gracia
[17:16] fabricius I just find this so far: img[Attributes Style] {width: 120px;height: 66px;}
[17:18] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r50119 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Math.php * [ENH] Make sure the data type is always the same
[17:18] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r50120 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Item.php * [FIX] Notice
[17:18] xavi Jyhem: oups,not a good example. it seems to be using plugin HTML to embed the whole html code from vimeo
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[17:19] jonnyb fabricius: it's "Max thumbnail size" in admin/fgals
[17:19] jonnyb (listings tab)
[17:19] fabricius THX!!!
[17:20] Jyhem xavi: you seemed to have something in mind here: http://dev.tiki.org/wish4796
[17:20] fabricius jonnyb: :-x
[17:20] xavi Jyhem: yes, I had something in mind, but not now (so many tiki sites, so many bug reports... I don't remember where it was... I'll keep searching)
[17:22] xavi Jyhem: I think I found it, but it's not more in tiki9. This syntax seems to be working in tiki12 also nowadays: ::{VIMEO(url="http://vimeo.com/20867638",quality="medium",allowFullScreen="true")}{VIMEO}::
[17:25] Jyhem I still get "Missing parameter movie to the plugin flash" with {VIMEO(url="http://vimeo.com/20867638",quality="medium",allowFullScreen="true")}{VIMEO}
[17:26] Jyhem http://jyhem-9952-52.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1
[17:26] Jyhem Never mind, that must be an unrelated issue. I mean, not parsing issue
[17:32] xavi Jyhem: it works in a wiki page: http://jyhem-9952-52.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[17:33] Jyhem xavi: and it works on my attempted fix in Tiki12 :-)
[17:33] Jyhem http://jyhem-9952-5156.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1
[17:33] xavi robertplummer: I'm not willing to distract you too much from wiki lingo stuff, but... did you know this?  https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js#pdf-export
[17:34] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r50121 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php * [FIX] Do not force non-ssl, instead, let the browser choose
[17:34] xavi reveal.js seems to be MIT licensed, and I wonder if we can borrow any code from there to make the pdf export from the tiki slideshows work as expected... (keeping slides in slide shape, landscape, big fonts, etc)
[17:35] robertplummer neat
[17:35] Jyhem Did we lose jonny ? For the record, his idea works great :-)
[17:38] xavi yep, jonnyb seems to have gone out
[17:40] xavi lphuberdeau: I also sign the statement from robertplummer: "The force is strong with you" (you fixed in a breeze in trunk the issue with index rebuild just after the profile is applied) :-)
[17:40] lphuberdeau it's easier when I caused the issue
[17:41] xavi :-D
[17:48] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r50122 10branches/12.x/templates/tiki-admin.tpl
[17:48] Tiki-KGB [bp/r50113][ENH]Make the wizard 'tip' slightly less omnipresent. thks lphuberdeau
[17:48] xavi so, lphuberdeau, is then this r50109 the only commit that needs to get backported to fix the issue in 12.x also? ( http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/50109 )
[17:49] lphuberdeau I would think so, yes
[17:50] xavi ok, I'll backport it, test it, and commit it once fix confirmed in 12.x. thks
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[18:16] Tiki-KGB [bp/r50109][FIX]Update identifier field list on incremental update as required. Thanks lphuberdeau
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[18:35] luciash_ polom
[18:35] jonnyb hi luciash
[18:39] luciash hi jonnyb :)
[18:47] Jyhem Hi back, jonnyb :) Your lead was very promising. Works in wiki syntax already :)
[18:47] Jyhem even vimeo :)
[18:47] jonnyb the html thing? good
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[19:03] Jyhem Yup.
[19:04] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r50124 10branches/12.x/tiki-edit_article.php
[19:04] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Fixes issue wish5156 (html plugin in articles) caused by revision r48131 (thanks jonny for the hint)
[19:13] robertplummer jonnyb: Man you brits are smart!  I'm doing research on neural networks, and found this - http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~mounia/Papers/EurofuseCRC.pdf
[19:14] jonnyb tee her - only some of us (that's way beyond me!)
[19:15] luciash +1 xavi for the absolute url to doc ;-)
[19:15] xavi :-)
[19:16] Jyhem It seems I found a new meaning for Tiki: http://vimeo.com/49650078 weird (but obviously fun)
[19:23] jonnyb nice - and they're even on version 12 :)
[19:24] Jyhem Well, that's how i found them :)
[19:26] xavi bbl
[19:26] luciash lol
[19:28] jonnyb that's all for me for now, more tomorrow...
[19:28] luciash weird is they are falling head ahead most of the time
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