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Tiki-KGB03xavidp r50115 10trunk/templates/ 10wizard/admin_community.tpl 10wizard/admin_login.tpl
[ENH]Provide info and link in a couple of admin wizard screens (login and community) to apply profile to set easily up a 'User and Registration Tracker'. First step to enhance the User Wizard based on the existance of a User Tracker. Will be backported to 12.x after 12.1 is out. 		[12:02]
03xavidp r50116 10trunk/ 10templates/wizard/user_wizard.tpl 10lib/wizard/pages/user_wizard.php
[FIX]Do not hardcode major version number in the tpl but fetch it from the appropriate variable. 		[12:12]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r50117 10branches/12.x/ 10modules/mod-func-cart.php 10templates/modules/mod-cart.tpl 10lib/payment/cartlib.php
[FIX] cart: Show proper count of items in cart (two of the same thing is still two items, thanks BSfez) 		[13:24]
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Jyhempolom
sorry jonnyb 		[15:03]
jonnybhi Jyhem
hmm? 		[15:03]
JyhemI just answered your commit "tikiwiki:[48131] branches/12.x/tiki-edit_article.php". It seems to cause the issue I was investigating yesterday [15:04]
fabriciuspolom
hi jonnyb and Jyhem 		[15:04]
jonnybhi fabricius [15:05]
fabriciuswould anybody be keen on checking the standard Tiki menus and streemline the default behaviour? [15:05]
jonnybew, don't even remember that one :)
r48131 i mean Jyhem 		[15:05]
Jyhemxavi: do you remember some working vimeo example which would illustrate http://dev.tiki.org/wish4796 ? [15:06]
fabriciusLPH last year made them behave like bootstrap and even open one additional level (compared to bootstraps original) [15:06]
robertplummerpolom jonnyb [15:07]
fabriciusbut sadly he did that - if Gary and me remember right - only for two module areas (left and top)
hi robertplummer 		[15:07]
robertplummerhi fabricius
fabricius: did you see we finally got toolbars working in tiki for wikiLingo in the experimental branch? 		[15:07]
jonnybhi robertplummer (and everyone! :) ) [15:07]
robertplummerfabricius: We are getting closer to merging back into trunk. [15:08]
Jyhemwell, it replaces some $body = $_REQUEST['body']; with $body = $jitRequest->body->purifier(); and lo! all <iframe> contents of CODE and HTML tags vanish [15:08]
jonnybhmm... [15:09]
JyhemAlso, I discover how this allowhtml stuff works in articles and… it looks apalling :-( [15:10]
fabriciusrobertplummer: yes [15:10]
JyhemI assumed that when something s saved with "allowhtml", this is somewhat saved as metadata, but no :-( [15:10]
fabriciusrobertplummer: any keen on helping out with menus ... to at least make Bootstrap NavBar partly Tiki? [15:11]
jonnybno, articles are very wobbly in that respect [15:11]
robertplummerJyhem: You should take a look at how we do it wikiLingo. That stuff is handled way more safe. It may save some time, just fyi. [15:11]
JyhemJyhem dreams of some mime-type style field associated with content, so that at parsing/displaying time we don't use guesswork like $artlib->is_html(array($body) does [15:12]
jonnybi guess what's needed is something like the code around lib/setup/editmode.php:65 [15:13]
Jyhemrobertplummer: does wikilingo store the format of the data along with the data ? Ideally even with version ?
meaning when one needs to display some content, one should be able to know if it's wiki syntax, of ckeditor syntax, or wikilinguo, and also if html is meant to be displayed of interpreted… would make things less brittle
jonnyb: looking right now 		[15:13]
robertplummerJyhem: wikiLingo makes NO CHANGES to what you give it when it is stored.
Jyhem: wikiLingo only wants to output to a certain format. Html is safe to input into wikiLingo, it detects the html tags and prevents them from being output when needed. There are only a few html tags that are not allowed, like iframe, script, style, etc. 		[15:19]
Jyhemrobertplummer: good, but how does anyone extracting stored content know it was stored through wikiLingo and hence unchanged ? [15:21]
robertplummerJyhem: We added a column that tracks which output to use. If it is blank, or no record exists for the current entity, it uses standard tiki methods, otherwise if wikiLingo is set, it uses that.
Jyhem: Also, this column is historically safe. 		[15:21]
JyhemSo it's mostly guesswork? <b> will be interpreted and <iframe< will be displayed ? Or removed? [15:22]
robertplummerJyhem: It tracks version of the page that was used with a certain ouput.
Jyhem: I believe "<iframe<" will be encoded to html, as it has a special "<" character, and is not a valid html tag. 		[15:22]
JyhemAhh, great! this column you mention is exactly what I was asking about [15:23]
robertplummer"&gt;iframe&gt;" or lt, can't remember which [15:23]
JyhemI meant <iframe> [15:23]
robertplummerJyhem: At this point wikiLingo is far more stable than the old wysiwyg editor. We just need implementations.
Jyhem: Yea, "<iframe>" is not allowed by default, and will literally look like "<iframe>" when the user visits the page.
Jyhem: We want to add in a means of overriding this, but security and stability are more important at this time.
Jyhem: And these can be overridden very easily as they are just an event that is triggered in wikiLingo. 		[15:24]
Jyhemand {HTML()}<iframe>{HTML} ?
obviously: {HTML()}<iframe>bla</iframe>{HTML} 		[15:25]
robertplummerJyhem: I'll have to double check. [15:26]
JyhemThat would need to be approved, and then executed
while {CODE()}<iframe>bla</iframe>{CODE} would need to show literally "<iframe>bla</iframe>"
jonnyb: https://dev.tiki.org/Filtering+Best+Practices is totally silent about $jitRequest['edit'] but I guess I can kind of guess what your code does in lib/setup/editmode.php:65
let me try on http://jyhem-9952-5156.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 which will therefore be somewhat unstable/broken :)
robertplummer: I hope this column is not a boolean, but more like text mimetypes so in the future you can deal with wikilingo-v2 or other formats 		[15:26]
jonnybsry, phone [15:36]
robertplummerJyhem: absolutely not, it is like mimetypes [15:36]
Jyhem: The architecture of wikiLingo makes it so that {HTML()}{HTML} is no longer needed.
Jyhem: By its very nature, it supports html, you don't have to call a plugin to insert it for you. 		[15:41]
JyhemBut you just said that some html will not work, like iframe [15:43]
robertplummerJyhem: I meant to say that it was not allowed, it will work.
Jyhem: https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/blob/master/WikiLingo/Expression/Tag.php
applet, iframe, link, script, & style are not allowed.
But this can be overridden with events;
Thus it works, it is just not allowed by default.
Jyhem: Though it doesn't blow up, it just displays it as encoded html. 		[15:43]
JyhemJyhem 's customers will not like "it's not allowed anymore" and I don't want to switch off all security so it always works [15:49]
robertplummerJyhem: That is not what I mean. wikiLingo is it's own namespace.
Jyhem: The wikiLingo implementatoin in tiki isn't a default implementation.
Jyhem: The idea is to make it so that you can input html and scripts. But the ability to do so will not be limited to html plugin, it is a core concept.
Jyhem: The end product in tiki is to make it so you can input html, and the html that "isn't allowed" by default, will simply be able to be approved, much like tiki's html plugin currently works. 		[15:50]
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robertplummerJyhem: It is off by default as a framework because it isn't just in tiki, it is in Drupal, and wordpress, hence there is a much broader security implication by leaving it on than turning it off by default.
Jyhem: What do you think of that approach? 		[15:53]
JyhemI don't understand what you mean in terms of user experience when hey wish to cut paste some code they get from youtube, vimeo and such [15:55]
lphuberdeaumaybe we should include a bit of code that sends an SMS to jyhem every time a tiki user in the world includes a piece of HTML in a page so he can validate that it's safe [16:04]
robertplummerJyhem: Picture THE SAME way they do things now, but without having to use a plugin.
Jyhem: Or if they wish to use a plugin for something more specific, like a youtube video, they can use a plugin for it. 		[16:05]
Tiki-KGB03lphuberdeau r50118 10trunk/ 10console.php 03lib/core/Tiki/Command/ProfileBaselineCommand.php
[MOD] Adding a patch generator to pretend a site was created using a profile by generating symbols for objects in the system, allowing further profile exports to refer to those symbols 		[16:08]
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robertplummerJyhem_: Did you get my reply? [16:19]
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Jyhemrobertplummer: yes, but I need to get this coding thing done [17:10]
robertplummerunderstood [17:11]
xaviback
xavi reading the back log 		[17:12]
Jyhemxavi: do you have an example of VIMEO plugin which works in Tiki9 and was broken in Tiki12 ? I get "Missing parameter movie to the plugin flash" when adding one in Tiki9 [17:13]
xavimmmm [17:14]
fabriciushello, I have a question [17:14]
Tiki|botWelcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! [17:15]
fabricius:-D
I love it
so now to my q: where in Tiki (maybe CSS) I can define the size of thumbnails? 		[17:15]
xaviJyhem: this video from Vimeo seems to work in Tiki9: http://intercanvis.net/Altres#Red_de_Intercambios_de_Gracia [17:16]
fabriciusI just find this so far: img[Attributes Style] {width: 120px;height: 66px;} [17:16]
Tiki-KGB03lphuberdeau r50119 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Math.php * [ENH] Make sure the data type is always the same
03lphuberdeau r50120 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Item.php * [FIX] Notice 		[17:18]
xaviJyhem: oups,not a good example. it seems to be using plugin HTML to embed the whole html code from vimeo [17:18]
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jonnybfabricius: it's "Max thumbnail size" in admin/fgals
(listings tab) 		[17:19]
fabriciusTHX!!! [17:19]
Jyhemxavi: you seemed to have something in mind here: http://dev.tiki.org/wish4796 [17:20]
fabriciusjonnyb: :-x [17:20]
xaviJyhem: yes, I had something in mind, but not now (so many tiki sites, so many bug reports... I don't remember where it was... I'll keep searching)
Jyhem: I think I found it, but it's not more in tiki9. This syntax seems to be working in tiki12 also nowadays: ::{VIMEO(url="http://vimeo.com/20867638",quality="medium",allowFullScreen="true")}{VIMEO}:: 		[17:20]
JyhemI still get "Missing parameter movie to the plugin flash" with {VIMEO(url="http://vimeo.com/20867638",quality="medium",allowFullScreen="true")}{VIMEO}
http://jyhem-9952-52.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1
Never mind, that must be an unrelated issue. I mean, not parsing issue 		[17:25]
xaviJyhem: it works in a wiki page: http://jyhem-9952-52.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage [17:32]
Jyhemxavi: and it works on my attempted fix in Tiki12 :-)
http://jyhem-9952-5156.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 		[17:33]
xavirobertplummer: I'm not willing to distract you too much from wiki lingo stuff, but... did you know this? https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js#pdf-export [17:33]
Tiki-KGB03lphuberdeau r50121 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php * [FIX] Do not force non-ssl, instead, let the browser choose [17:34]
xavireveal.js seems to be MIT licensed, and I wonder if we can borrow any code from there to make the pdf export from the tiki slideshows work as expected... (keeping slides in slide shape, landscape, big fonts, etc) [17:34]
robertplummerneat [17:35]
JyhemDid we lose jonny ? For the record, his idea works great :-) [17:35]
xaviyep, jonnyb seems to have gone out
lphuberdeau: I also sign the statement from robertplummer: "The force is strong with you" (you fixed in a breeze in trunk the issue with index rebuild just after the profile is applied) :-) 		[17:38]
lphuberdeauit's easier when I caused the issue [17:40]
xavi:-D [17:41]
Tiki-KGB03xavidp r50122 10branches/12.x/templates/tiki-admin.tpl
[bp/r50113][ENH]Make the wizard 'tip' slightly less omnipresent. thks lphuberdeau 		[17:48]
xaviso, lphuberdeau, is then this r50109 the only commit that needs to get backported to fix the issue in 12.x also? ( http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/50109 ) [17:48]
lphuberdeauI would think so, yes [17:49]
xaviok, I'll backport it, test it, and commit it once fix confirmed in 12.x. thks [17:50]
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Tiki-KGB03xavidp r50123 10branches/12.x/lib/search/searchlib-unified.php
[bp/r50109][FIX]Update identifier field list on incremental update as required. Thanks lphuberdeau 		[18:16]
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jonnybhi luciash [18:35]
luciashhi jonnyb :) [18:39]
JyhemHi back, jonnyb :) Your lead was very promising. Works in wiki syntax already :)
even vimeo :) 		[18:47]
jonnybthe html thing? good [18:47]
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JyhemYup. [19:03]
Tiki-KGB03jyhem r50124 10branches/12.x/tiki-edit_article.php
[FIX] Fixes issue wish5156 (html plugin in articles) caused by revision r48131 (thanks jonny for the hint) 		[19:04]
robertplummerjonnyb: Man you brits are smart! I'm doing research on neural networks, and found this - http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~mounia/Papers/EurofuseCRC.pdf [19:13]
jonnybtee her - only some of us (that's way beyond me!) [19:14]
luciash+1 xavi for the absolute url to doc ;-) [19:15]
xavi:-) [19:15]
JyhemIt seems I found a new meaning for Tiki: http://vimeo.com/49650078 weird (but obviously fun) [19:16]
jonnybnice - and they're even on version 12 :) [19:23]
JyhemWell, that's how i found them :) [19:24]
xavibbl [19:26]
luciashlol [19:26]
jonnybthat's all for me for now, more tomorrow... [19:28]
luciashweird is they are falling head ahead most of the time [19:28]
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