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[00:43] PenguinMan98 Hey guys, is there a way to have a bloglist pull from more than one blog?
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[00:52] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Did you see in the doc that a blog Id of -1 displays all blogs?  Not that I have ever tried it
[00:52] PenguinMan98 Yeah. but I'm planning room for many many blogs
[00:53] PenguinMan98 It'd be nice to put in a comma list of id's and it pulls from those
[00:53] PenguinMan98 maybe I'll write me up an 'augmented bloglist'
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[02:43] fabricius Jyhem
[02:48] fabricius problem: Nelson has time mainly at 2:00 UTC and then I will be not at home ... I do not get BBB for Android running ... maybe we use skype?
[03:04] Jyhem Skype is OK. When s this meeting, in plain Paris-Berlin time ?
[03:06] Jyhem fabricius: ^
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[10:14] Trebly <Any Admin> Hi, It is a long time that I had no time to work on tiki. I reach yesterday https://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%80%20propos%20de%20Tiki&watch_event=wiki_page_changed&watch_object=%C3%80%20propos%20de%20Tiki&watch_action=add
[10:14] Trebly and wish to progress in French translation, but I have not the access to "edit page"
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[11:30] Trebly Hi, I forgot the "pref" name for tpl start-stop marks. With 12.1x seems inactivated
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[12:14] Thijs hi all i have a question and i need your advice :)
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[12:15] Thijs I'm part of a SME that currently has around 50 employees, but I can see that grow very easily in the future.
[12:15] Thijs I'm looking for a future proof knowledge management wiki that should be easy to use
[12:16] Thijs and preferably has LDAP support
[12:17] Thijs We're currently using MediaWiki, but I think we need to divert to something with more functionality and something more user-friendly
[12:18] Thijs I've been looking at Doku wiki, Twiki and Tiki wiki so far
[12:19] Thijs What would be your advice?
[12:21] Thijs I like Doku wiki for its ease of use, but i think its functionality is pretty limited
[12:22] Thijs So why should I go for tiki wiki?
[12:24] Thijs I'd also like to be able to manage and document projects within the wiki
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[12:32] arildb Hi Thijs, TikiWiki is pretty rich in built-in functionality, and it has a friendly community....I am sure there is a wiki page somewhere listing "Why Tiki"
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[12:40] arildb Hi jonnyb, I would ike to test out the shopping cart you have just updated, but I cannot find any install/startup instructions. Do instructions exist yet?
[12:40] jonnyb hi arildb
[12:41] jonnyb there's a profile http://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart
[12:41] jonnyb but beware, i'm sort of half way through updating stuff
[12:41] arildb so, maybe wait a week or two?
[12:41] jonnyb i have some changes to the tpl files that might be needed, but not sure they're really to commit
[12:42] arildb ...maybe you need help testing...
[12:42] jonnyb it could do with some other input :)
[12:42] arildb let me know, when you think it's ready for me to attempt an install, and I will test some
[12:42] jonnyb let me have a quick look at these tpl's - been a while since i did anything on them
[12:45] jonnyb there are a couple of fixes i can do now, and will commit the tpl changes, so should be ok to give it a go later (but it is very alpha! :) )
[12:46] arildb thanks. TikiKart says it's a "Full profile". I need to integrate this into an existing site. This profile probably cannot be applied directly to the target site, I assume.
[12:47] arildb I will do the initial test on a test site anyhow.
[12:51] jonnyb ok arildb - have committed the small changes
[12:52] jonnyb yes, whatever you do don't apply this (or any untested profile) to a live existing site :)
[12:52] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50227 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/examples/shop/product_item.tpl 10templates/examples/shop/product_list_inner.tpl 10templates/examples/shop/add_to_cart.tpl * [MOD] Some refactoring for  simplification of the TikiKart profile
[12:52] jonnyb it will certainly need more fixing
[12:52] arildb thanks. will try the profile in a fresh Tiki 12. will get back to you afterwards
[12:52] jonnyb i just changed it back to alpha state, just in case
[12:53] jonnyb thanks
[12:53] arildb I understand. btw. I am testing on windows 7, IIS, PHP 5.5 and InnoDB
[12:56] arildb jonnyb: I am on a dynamic IP and don't think I can test with PayPal.  I still be able to start the cart, or?
[12:57] xavi polom
[12:57] xavi hi arildb & jonnyb
[12:57] jonnyb sort of - you need a static ip for the notification thing
[12:57] jonnyb hi xavi
[12:57] arildb hi xavi
[12:57] jonnyb but you can also use the mini-cart
[12:58] jonnyb probably a few more changes to the included pages needed - i have a setup  here i should update from, but no time this week
[12:58] xavi Re TikiKart profile. I reviewed it (like many other profiles) a couple of weeks ago, and I was missing some demo data there to see it working, etc. (like in the former Barter_Market profile, etc)
[12:58] arildb mini-cart..that sounds interesting. There is ony planned a few products. No shop
[12:59] xavi I honestly thing that we need to include some profile in the Profiles Wizard related to the Cart, whenever it's good to fit in the "demo" section
[12:59] arildb xavi: yes, I agree
[12:59] xavi TikiKart, Mini-cart: any one to work as a demo. Like what you are looking for nowadays, arildb
[13:00] xavi re: http://dev.tiki.org/Profiles+Wizard
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[13:00] arildb xavi: I will try the TikiKart profile first, but mini-cart sounds interesting
[13:00] xavi whichever you feel it's the best candidate for what you are looking for, please drop a note at http://dev.tiki.org/Profiles+Wizard so that we can sort out whatever is needed to include it in the Profiles Wizard for 12.2
[13:01] arildb xavi: I will get back you after some testing
[13:01] xavi I have a few in the "oven", cooking... waiting for 12.1 to be released, so that I can add them to 12.x
[13:02] xavi Like the "Easy GeoBlog", probably a new one for the "Sticky note", etc.
[13:02] xavi andmaybe split the "rotating images in the header" from the "Easy GeoBlog" into a separate mini-profile
[13:05] arildb Tiki 12 clean installation...ran the TikiKart profile...back on the home page...h-m-m now what?
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[13:06] xavi arildb: that's part of what I meant :-)
[13:07] xavi and a instructions page is needed, etc.
[13:07] Thijs Thanks for your answer arildb :) I've been trying to do as much research on the internet as possible and I think Tiki is the way to go for us
[13:07] arildb xavi: yes, a "where to next" should be displayed after the profile installation
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[13:08] arildb Thijs: give it a try. You can get help here or via the mailing list
[13:08] jonnyb definitely it needs an instructions page, but it needs to work better first imho
[13:09] arildb went to tiki-admin.php?page=payment. It is not possible to view the PayPal details. Note I did not enter a PayPal Business ID in the profile installer
[13:14] arildb jonnyb: What should I do next, to proceed with the cart installation? Add a page with the "Add to cart" plugin? How do I administer products, see sales, etc.?
[13:15] jonnyb there should be a page called products
[13:15] arildb checking
[13:16] jonnyb sorry, can't do this now, maybe try next week/month - it's really not ready i guess
[13:16] arildb found the products page and the Products tracker....I will try a little more.
[13:21] arildb jonnyb: The products are in either the drink or food category. No tracker for the category settings. not sure where I can change them
[13:21] jonnyb admin categories?
[13:21] arildb no. product categories in the Products tracker
[13:22] arildb ah, it uses regular categories
[13:23] arildb added a new  category, and it appears. good
[13:23] Trebly Hi, the pref log_tpl seems not to function anymore in 12.1x ? No effect.
[13:25] arildb jonnyb: I think I see how it works now. With some proper product definitions it may be ok (or at least look better). The profile does not seem to be very intrusive. So, it may work for my needs
[13:26] jonnyb yes, needs some example products, but that means pictures, file galleries etc...
[13:26] jonnyb there is one more little thing you need to get the mini-cart working
[13:27] arildb The mini-cart...is that a different profile, or a feature/option? ... yes, what do I need
[13:27] jonnyb just add this to the list plugins
[13:27] jonnyb {FORMAT(name="use_minicart")}1{FORMAT}
[13:27] arildb list of plugin...you mean in a wiki page?
[13:28] jonnyb is very funky :)
[13:28] jonnyb yes, in products and product
[13:28] arildb ok
[13:28] jonnyb needs adding to the profile with a parameter
[13:29] arildb like this...
[13:29] arildb {FORMAT}
[13:29] arildb {FORMAT(name="stock")}{display name="tracker_field_product_stock" default=""}{FORMAT}
[13:29] arildb {FORMAT(name="use_minicart")}1{FORMAT}
[13:29] arildb {LIST}
[13:29] arildb {GROUP(groups="Admins")}{LIST()}
[13:29] arildb doesn't seem to do anything
[13:41] jonnyb yes, that looks about right - wonder if i added a pref for it (can't remember now)
[14:08] jonnyb bbl
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[16:39] xavi hi robertplummer
[16:39] robertplummer hi xavi
[16:53] xavi arildb (and jonnyb: fyi): I've added a page for instructions with the TikiKart Profile
[16:54] arildb xavi: thanks. will check it out later
[16:54] xavi @arildb: whatever you learn that needs to be done once the profile is applied, you can put it there to re-use your knowledge ;-): http://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page
[16:54] arildb ok
[16:55] xavi I checked and the profile nowadays loads that page after profile installation
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[17:36] Trebly Hi, do somebody knows why "log_tpl" prefs is no more effective
[17:41] Trebly in 12.1x > 10.x
[17:49] Trebly No matter, sorry, firebug option changed, when, how ?... don't thought about it
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[18:18] xavi arildb: TikiKart profile nowadays includes 3 sample products with their corresponding images :-)
[18:18] arildb xavi: sounds good. I will check it soon
[18:21] xavi ok
[18:21] * xavi back to other stuff
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[18:30] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50230 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/core/Search/Formatter/Plugin/SmartyTemplate.php 10templates/table.tpl * [FIX] list: Hide header row in table template if empty
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[18:33] lphuberdeau jonnybradley: that class is not supposed to know about the details of the templates
[18:34] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50231 10(11 files in 8 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50218 to 50230
[18:34] jonnyb hi lphuberdeau - oops, really?
[18:34] jonnyb i thought it made sense next to maxRecords, count, offset etc
[18:35] lphuberdeau table is one of any number of templates that can be used, and if you can't resolve the issue from the template for this case, there is no way to believe custom templates could do what they have to without customizing the class
[18:35] jonnyb where would be better?
[18:35] lphuberdeau result related variables are one thing
[18:36] jonnyb i figured it would also be a useful flag to use in custom tpls...
[18:36] lphuberdeau the SmartyTemplate class knows nothing about columns, the variables are just generated from the inner input by name
[18:36] jonnyb could do it with some horrid smarty capture thing (yuk)
[18:36] jonnyb hmm, ok - will revert
[18:37] lphuberdeau to me, if you don't have columns, you don't have a table
[18:37] jonnyb the trouble i see is that the tpl needs to know, so it needs to be assigned to smarty, and smarty doesn't exist until it gets that far
[18:38] lphuberdeau you know you can pass additional values from the list plugin right?
[18:39] lphuberdeau everything within {OUTPUT()
[18:39] lphuberdeau is just data sent to the template
[18:40] jonnyb yup, got it (doesn't help with this though, does it?)
[18:41] jonnyb will redo it in the tpl then... :(
[18:41] lphuberdeau you can add some option to ask hiding the header row...
[18:41] lphuberdeau {option header=hide
[18:41] lphuberdeau or something like that
[18:42] lphuberdeau make it template specific
[18:42] jonnyb would be better if it just didn't render out empty header rows i think - no need to another param imho
[18:42] lphuberdeau sure it's not as smart as checking if you have no label, but it does not open the door to template-specific creep
[18:43] jonnyb fair buff :)
[18:43] lphuberdeau and it avoids ugly capture constructs
[18:43] jonnyb or even "nuff"
[18:44] jonnyb i was just going to do the same foreach logic but in table.tpl
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[18:48] Tiki-KGB Revert r50230: Wrong place for "[FIX] list: Hide header row in table template if empty" (thanks LP)
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[18:56] Tiki-KGB [FIX] list: Another go at hiding empty header rows in the table template, avoiding template-specific creep this time
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[19:14] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r50235 10trunk/ 10tiki-payment.php 10lib/payment/paymentlib.php * [MOD] Adding MAC validation to authenticate the return URL
[19:14] xavi bbl
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[20:16] Tiki-KGB [FIX] jcapture: Hopefully a fix for jCapture - composer and svn (and sourceforge plus caching) is extra confusing, seems to work for me locally now...
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[20:24] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50239 10trunk/lib/jcapture_tiki/tiki-jcapture.js * [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for jCapture
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[20:27] arildb xavi: the instructions page comes up nicely after the TikiKart installation! ... now it just needs some proper content.
[20:28] xavi :-)
[20:28] xavi and there is some content already in the tracker
[20:28] xavi go to the products page and you'll see it :-)
[20:28] xavi (with images also)
[20:29] arildb nice!
[20:29] xavi from there, all yours ;-)
[20:29] xavi if you manage to set up some checkout module, or whatever else works with tikikart, just say so, so that we can add that to the profile
[20:29] arildb hm-m-m how do I get back to the instructions page?
[20:30] xavi he he :-)
[20:30] xavi "Wiki > List pages > Instructions"
[20:30] arildb right
[20:31] arildb It's not listed in Last Changes
[20:31] arildb ...I selected the wrong menu item..
[20:31] xavi I personally like adding a module "menupage" with links for a profile.
[20:31] xavi there is one that could be reused...
[20:32] arildb How could this module work?
[20:32] xavi I have no idea of current modules for a shopping cart in tiki
[20:32] arildb none of the profile installed pages, are listed in Last changes .... maybe that's ok
[20:32] xavi I recently saw the playback of the last webinar, and I saw a nice checkout-like module in the demo
[20:33] xavi this could be reused, or cloned to make it easy for the other profile: http://profiles.tiki.org/Collaborative_Community_Wiki_menupage
[20:34] * xavi will add this old profile to the dev page for the "Profile Wizard". It might be useful for others...
[20:34] arildb the TikiKart generated pages search and 'searcj fom tpl' show nothing or smarty syntax. Are they needed?
[20:34] xavi no idea
[20:35] xavi jonnyb would know, or bernard, I guess
[20:36] arildb I am guessing, not implemented/completed yet
[20:37] jonnyb hmm?
[20:38] jonnyb arildb: the search depends on the unified-index - maybe it needs rebuilding (or enabling even)
[20:38] arildb probably. A fresh installation. Trying...
[20:39] jonnyb the form tpl should show syntax, it's used in the search page custom_search plugin
[20:39] arildb it looked syntax like
[20:41] arildb the search page is still empty, after rebuilding the index....it has no content
[20:50] arildb xavi and jonnyb, I updated https://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page a little bit.
[20:52] jonnyb the search page should have this in it: http://profiles.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=TikiKart_Search_Include&source=0
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[20:54] Tiki-KGB [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for structure edit (and fix save button references)
[20:54] xavi arildb and jonnyb, there is a naming error in the profile
[20:54] xavi I'll fix it (for the search include page)
[20:55] arildb_ I just fixed search form tpl
[20:55] arildb_ typo...different thing
[20:56] xavi search works now :-)
[20:56] xavi but wrong info shown
[20:57] arildb_ xavi: yes, search is good now. Thanks
[20:58] arildb_ except images missing
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[21:03] xavi ok, nice
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[21:10] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50244 10trunk/ 10(12 files in 9 dirs) * [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for various features, lightly tested
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[21:12] Tiki-KGB [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for some other features (should be all now, testers please report any new problems)
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[21:22] robertplummer polom all
[21:22] robertplummer hi jonnyb
[21:22] jonnyb hi robertplummer
[21:24] arildb xavi: All major system changes are now described https://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page#Instructions
[21:25] arildb still missing description of plugin/module cart...I am not familiar with thiose yet
[21:26] xavi ok, thks arildb. I might play with the profile in a few days. Off for tonight. See you all!
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[21:29] jonnyb thanks arildb for triggering stuff on the tikikart - been going as a solo thing for a long time! :)
[21:29] jonnyb coo, malaria just left the chat room... curious
[21:29] arildb jonnyb: I haven't tested all yet, but it looks good so far. I am still not familiar with th UI plugin/module
[21:30] jonnyb there's not much to them - the module acts as the cart, collecting items in a session array
[21:30] jonnyb the plugin adds stuff to it
[21:32] arildb wow...lots of cart plugin params
[21:33] jonnyb afraid that was me - i just added a bunch, was all quite hard-coded until recently
[21:33] jonnyb mainly ajax though
[21:33] arildb I filled in the ones in bold...hopefully ok
[21:34] arildb qty + edit field appears and the Add to Cart button, but no product description. I added a random product code TST...does that matter?
[21:38] jonnyb usually the addtocart plugin is set up from the tracker item info
[21:38] arildb ok
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[21:39] jonnyb in templates/examples/shop/add_to_cart.tpl
[21:40] jonnyb hey marclaporte - i think i might have fixed jCapture in 12 (and arildb actually)
[21:40] arildb jonnyb: oh...what was the problem...will give it a try
[21:41] jonnyb for us the applet wasn't running at all - needed updating by Pavel
[21:41] arildb ok
[21:41] jonnyb but i didn't manage to get the composer.json thing done properly until today
[21:42] jonnyb there are just _so_ many caches (browser, java, composer, probably others!)
[21:45] arildb hm-m...jcapture locked-up tiki. Nearly clean installation. TikiKart profile applied
[21:45] arildb after pressing "Capture" in the gray area
[21:46] arildb json_encode - Malformed UTF-8 characters, possibly incorrectly encoded
[21:46] jonnyb ew
[21:46] arildb that the attempt to URL encode raw PNG data
[21:46] jonnyb after lots of cache clearing?
[21:46] arildb he he...no...clearing now
[21:47] jonnyb oh right, you said before
[21:47] jonnyb odd - i don't get that
[21:47] jonnyb cos it should only be sending the image url i think there
[21:47] jonnyb the upload is a form post i thought
[21:48] arildb yes, only url sounds right. However, when loading the filename, the whole record is returned. ...maybe you store images in files?
[21:49] jonnyb ah, yes
[21:49] arildb will try on a clean Tiki 12...only jCapture enabled
[21:49] jonnyb you have filegals in database?
[21:49] arildb clean Tiki 12
[21:49] jonnyb (once ended up with a 4GB+ database, so don't ever do that now)
[21:50] arildb all new users will initially use the database for file galleries. Can that be the problem?
[21:51] arildb the png file data, should probably be base64 encoded, or dropped altogether...probably better
[21:51] jonnyb yay, got it
[21:51] arildb :)
[22:04] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50246 10branches/12.x/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php
[22:04] Tiki-KGB [FIX] jcapture: Don't send the image data back when files are stored in the database, causes json encoding to fail and isn't needed anyway.
[22:04] Tiki-KGB Thanks arildb
[22:04] arildb testing
[22:04] jonnyb nice - two bugs fixed for the price of one - thanks arildb :)
[22:04] arildb :)
[22:05] jonnyb found a tiki with hundreds of left over image files in temp the other day, so stuck a breakpoint in the bit i suspected and it just came up :)
[22:06] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50247 10branches/12.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php
[22:06] Tiki-KGB [FIX] filegals: Remove the temp file if required, even if no resizing was performed when doing transformImage
[22:06] jonnyb ok, think i'm done for a Thursday - more tomorrow
[22:07] arildb jcapture works now. Thanks jonnyb
[22:08] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50248 10trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php 10trunk 10trunk/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50240 to 50247
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