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Robert___im roberto
from argentina
and im searching a new cms to my website ciudadpolitica.org
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refizulRobert___: hi
Robert___: hablo ingles
Robert___: What is your question about CMS or especially Tiki?
Do you already use Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware?
Or is this website a xoops installation right now?
Do you need advice to migrate to Tiki on technical level?
Do you need advice whether to migrate or not on philosophical level?
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Robert___sorry tel
wait please
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here im
sorry
tel
my grandma
My website is now in xoops
Its an old version
I like to migrate
To a cms more oriented to community but with semantics for resources
this is very good site http://www.aster.it/tiki-index.php
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refizul.
So what stops you from migration?
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Robert___i dont know tikiwiki [01:48]
refizulYou like to migrate, so just do it if you think Tiki is appropriate for you.
ok
How much time do you have to administrate the page in average?
2h a week?
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Robert___all a day a half an hour [01:49]
refizulthis is 3h a week approx [01:49]
Robert___and how about the security? [01:50]
refizulhow much time do you have to spend on migration? [01:50]
Robert___one week [01:50]
refizulone week full or only private time? [01:50]
Robert___private time [01:51]
refizulhow much is this in hours a day? [01:51]
Robert___but the migration its not about the whole site
2 hours
i have two question
one about security
and the other about the upgrade
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refizulmigration will need to become confident with Tiki - first do a test installation and play around. Maybe 2-5h to get an impression [01:52]
Robert___ok
and how about spanish translation?
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refizulat the beginning, you need some time to adjust Tiki to your needs - including language specification
My spanisch is quiet poor, but Tiki is quiet ok AFAIK
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Robert___i speak a poor english
but understand all
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refizulTiki is a multilingual system - this was the main reason for me to go here
At least one of the coders is from Spain
eh - not coders, but contributors
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Robert___im know php [01:56]
refizullanguage is not something to worry if you use Tiki - you can improve missing translations
do you have got opportunity to test it?
an old PC somewhere or a virtual machine?
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Robert___yes, i have a hosting server
with apache and mysql
www.ciudadpolitica.org/social
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refizulso: do a test installation and play around for 1-2 days [01:58]
Robert___ok, i do this [01:58]
refizulit took me 2 hours to see the potential and I loved it
then go step by step and try do do stuff and more stuff
then go step by step and try to do stuff and more stuff
you will know in less than two days whether Tiki is good for you or not
once you migrate - you won't regret it
if you need foo or bar (as a blog or a forum or...) later - just activate it. no more installation
now about your points above
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Robert___yes [02:02]
refizulupgrade and security [02:02]
Robert___im uploading now the zip in the server [02:02]
refizulTiki is renewed each 6 months, and each 18 months there is LTS [02:02]
Robert___i upload the 12 version [02:03]
refizuland there are intermediate updates inbetween [02:03]
Robert___ok [02:03]
refizulfollow the update manual on website and things will be smooth [02:03]
Robert___good [02:04]
refizulsecurity issues will be fixed in intermediate updates
LTS is supported longer
former 3.5y or something, now we choosed a 5y lifecycle
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Robert___searching for security issues i see this http://www.hacking-etic.cat/?p=823&lang=es
its in spanish
you use tikiwiki or are a coder?
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refizulhttp://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle
I am a low level coder, more administrator and user
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Robert___of tiki or a other website? [02:10]
refizulhttps://dev.tiki.org/RoadMap
I contributed some PHP code and shell to improve administration
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Robert___ok, maybe i need to wait the Tiki13 ( Tiki13 is planned for April 2014 )
what its your opinion?
i hace 16000 members
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refizulI do more stuff C++ and infrastructure in virtualization [02:12]
Robert___i have 16000 members, but only 2000 active [02:12]
refizulMy opinion is, you should be conservative and take Tiki 12 LTS, and have an eye on Tiki 13 [02:12]
Robert___ok, i see, thanks
thank you for your attention
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refizulif Tiki 13 is okay, you can switch to Tiki 15 next year [02:13]
Robert___OK! and how about the responsive design? and the html5 validate? [02:14]
refizulno problem, you're welcome in the Tiki community [02:14]
Robert___i read tiki its very complete but the modules are coding independents (sorry for my english =) [02:14]
refizulresp. des. is not my field of experience, but you can ask Torsten about that during the next days
he will be back here in IRC in a couple of days
look for a nick starting with fab[...]
he does Bootstrap design as well
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Robert___here in Argentina a big site with Tiki is http://biblioteca.fadu.uba.ar/tiki-index.php
Ok, i try to contact him
12000 files remaning =)
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refizulAFAIK the origins from Tiki are in South America [02:17]
Robert___seriously? Good [02:18]
refizulI guess Brazil [02:18]
Robert___i discover, because im searching for a semantic site
i see too mediawiki
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refizulwithout the idea of Free Software - we would have exploited this idea as well as anything you can provide. Shame on "first world" governments
but Tiki community gives everything back to the whole world
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Robert___Ok
Thank you refizul
i will eat in the dinner now
my english is similar to a robocall
=)
see later
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Robert___hi
3700 files left to upload all the tikiwiki
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Robert___oh no
my php is 5.2
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luciash: ?
I need some help with the trick of the post-it note (and therefore, the profile I created for it), because I can't manage to get it closed after page reload
the example in http://doc.tiki.org/post-it works (placed inside the wiki page), but not when the equivalent code is placed in "Admin home > L&F > Customization fields"
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