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   <br> Hello.  Anyone awake?
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   <br> hello?
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   Topic: for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the Free &amp; Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki LTS version 12.0 (Altair) is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log)
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   <br> hi luciash
   <br> are you able to reach live.tiki.org?
   <br> I see a null after clicking on Create
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   chibaguy: polom
   nelsonko: hi chibaguy/luciash bbb problem?
   chibaguy: I get only a white page that says "null".
   <br> I logged in yesterday by mistake and it worked fine.
   <br> I wonder if something needs to be restarted on the server side.
   nelsonko: it worked earlier when I tried too
   <br> I have fred on the line, working on it
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   Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: TikiFest - what time ? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&amp;comments_parentId=51892
   <br> New Forum Posts: Issues with importer - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=20&amp;comments_parentId=51891
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   nelsonko: chibaguy luciash can you refresh and retry https://tiki.org/Live
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   nelsonko: Hi everyone, Fred has fixed the issue with BBB
   <br> we will be starting in the next few minutes
   <br> please connect on live.t.o :)
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   xavi: <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>:  ?
   <br> or Jyhem ?
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   <br> Recent Bug:  - doc.tiki.org: Print goes to HomePage instead of specific wiki page when using page_ref_id from structures  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5191
   <br> Recent Bug:  - 12.x: WebDAV is not working  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5192
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   <br> What is the suggested method for extending the database schema of tiki in a forward-compatible way if I want to extend functionality of tiki?
   <br> I am looking to capture the login user and time at which they "approve" a flagged revision.
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   <br> I just tried svn up on the trunk and it just keeps trying to update for like, 10 minutes. is the server down or something?
   <br> I can't commit changes either
   arildb: I am able to update ok from SVN trunk
   gavincrenshaw: hmm
   arildb: correct url?  ... https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunk
   gavincrenshaw: yup
   <br> when I try to go there in the browser it tells me that the webpage can't be found
   arildb: The problem is not sourceforge it seems
   <br> can you ping svn.code.sf.net?
   gavincrenshaw: yeah, but it's really slow
   <br> --- svn.code.sf.net ping statistics --- 114 packets transmitted, 22 received, 80% packet loss, time 113599ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.876/38.592/77.479/8.540 ms
   <br> I feel like 80% packet loss is a bad thing
   arildb: you have a connection problem to sf, it seems
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   arildb: maybe it's temporary
   gavincrenshaw: hopefully
   xavi: <u>josha_</u>: you'd better develop with trunk, and commit your changes there (to have it "forward-compatible way" as you say)
   <br> <u>josha_</u>: see http://dev.tiki.org/Commit and the links therein
   gavincrenshaw: <u>arildb</u>: so I can connect to sourceforge from my phone on the same wireless netowork, but not my laptop
   arildb: are you in a WiFi shadow?
   <br> probably not, since you are here
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   xavi: <u>arildb</u>: btw, have you seen this: http://tiki.org/TikiFestT13Alpha#Thursday ?
   <br> they scheduled some discussion and/or work done for Tiki13 related to wizards
   <br> FYI ^
   arildb: hi xavi
   <br> no, I haven't seen that
   xavi: ok, glad to share that link with you, then :-)
   <br> in time, I mean
   arildb: are you giving the 1030h - 1100h: Introduction to profiles and installer round?
   <br> 1030h ... which timezone is this?
   xavi: oh well, unsure if an introduction talk is needed. That was given already in a past webinar...
   <br> EDT probably (UTC -4, it seems)
   arildb: right
   xavi: see http://tiki.org/TikiFestT13Alpha#Schedule
   arildb: yes, see it now
   <br> I obviously won't be in Totonto. I guess there will be webinars, too...or?
   xavi: well, not webinars, but real time connection through live.tiki.org (the same BigBlueButton type of connection we use for Webinars)
   arildb: ok
   xavi: they were still connect to it a momment ago, even if quiet working
   arildb: I am a bit busy with other things at the moment, but may join in a bit
   xavi: I wonder if you saw also this: http://dev.tiki.org/Admin+Wizard#Enhancement_proposals
   arildb: been a bit out of the loop lately ... checking
   xavi: I was planning to port them to trunk later, and backport to 12.x at some point (12.2, etc)
   <br> Ok, I must leave now. Drop your comments there in that wiki page if you wish
   arildb: 5 new screens...that brings the total to 26, I believe
   xavi: maybe the one/s related to upgrades, can be set up in a different wizard: "Upgrade wizard"?
   <br> anyway, I must leave now. I'll read it (and/or email list) later, etc.
   <br> cheers
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   arildb: maybe ... however, the core wizard currently only has support for 2 "threads"
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