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[00:50] Jyhem happy birthday robertplummer \o/
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[09:23] arildb good morning xavi
[09:23] xavi g'morning arildb
[09:23] arildb I had another look at the innodb installation problem. Just sent a mail. Fix coming up
[09:24] xavi ok, great. was there any real problem anywhere?
[09:24] xavi (probably edge cases?)
[09:24] arildb many single inserts should not be done in InnoDB. Enclose them in a transaction scope and all works well
[09:24] xavi ok
[09:24] arildb test now
[09:25] arildb 12.2 installer ran ok in InnoDB
[09:25] xavi ok
[09:28] Tiki-KGB 03arildb r51443 10branches/12.x/ 10doc/devtools/rewritesecdb.php 10doc/devtools/release.php * [FIX] Avoid installer timeouts when using InnoDB.
[09:28] arildb committing now ... probably the wrong branch, but the problem is in 12
[09:28] arildb xavi: do you have a chance to test the fix?
[09:29] xavi yes, sure
[09:29] arildb thanks
[09:29] xavi let me finish a doc page half written, and I'll test
[09:29] arildb ok
[09:30] xavi a new install in 12.x after your commit, with innoDB
[09:30] arildb the test requires that a new "release" is run, and generates a new tiki-secdb installer script
[09:31] arildb simply running 12.2 will use the faulty tiki-secdb file definition
[09:31] arildb so, it's the release procedure (or a part of it) that needs testing
[09:31] arildb I am on Windows, and the procedure seems to require Linux
[09:35] arildb I am going out a bit. bbl
[09:38] xavi ah, ok
[09:39] xavi without the new tiki-secdb installer script (just using the one provided with the "svn up"), the installation with innoDB took something like 2 minutes
[09:39] xavi with MyISAM, same computer, it usually takes less than 30 seconds (20 or so)
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[09:46] xavi ok, more accurate run: 30 seconds with MyISAM, 70 seconds with InnoDB, same computer (using tiki-secdb installer script provided with r51443 )
[09:46] xavi now I'll figure out how to generate the new tiki-secdb sql, and run it again with InnoDB
[09:52] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: InnoDB installation timeouts and test of secdb installation - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=52269
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[11:33] arildb Hi xavi, did you run a "release test"?
[11:34] xavi hi arildb, I answered through the list
[11:34] arildb ok...checking
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[12:10] luciash polom !
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[12:12] luciash arildb: great find ! that explains why for us while testing from the svn the InnoDB went fast
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[13:55] arildb hi luciash
[13:58] arildb I see jonnyb already forward ported the fix. Hopefully all is well. xavi noticed a file of size=0. ... I hope this doesn't turn out messy...
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[14:38] robertplummer Thanks Jyhem
[14:38] robertplummer (polom)
[15:00] lphuberdeau hmmm... side menu is now boxed up with way too much padding... event short entries span multiple lines...
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[15:51] gavincrenshaw polom all
[15:58] luciash hi gavin
[16:00] GillesM hello
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[17:14] nelsonko hi jonnyb
[17:15] jonnyb polomnelsonko
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[17:18] nelsonko how's it going? I was thinking of just going through that release script just to see if it can generate a package with my tag instead of the current revision
[17:19] nelsonko but it looks like arild just committed a fix to solve innodb installer timeouts?
[17:20] nelsonko arildb, does it work?
[17:20] arildb hi nelsonko
[17:20] jonnyb good thanks - hmm
[17:20] jonnyb hi arildb
[17:21] arildb The fixed tiki-secdb sql script does cut the install time on InnoDB. That seems to work. However, I am on Windows and I am unable to test the release script. WOuld be good if someone familiar with it and with the right setup could test it
[17:21] arildb xavi did a test and experience a file size = 0. So, there may be issues still
[17:21] arildb hi jonnyb
[17:22] nelsonko arildb, in r51143 there are only "commit" and "start transaction" write.
[17:23] nelsonko ah right, but mysql will cut the time as a result
[17:23] arildb nelsonko: that's correct. That's all that is needed. To put all inserts inside a transaction
[17:23] nelsonko deletes you mean
[17:23] nelsonko right inserts sorry
[17:23] arildb ah yes...and the delete....all staements
[17:24] arildb ...all statements ...it should be
[17:24] nelsonko I'm going to try it out
[17:24] nelsonko If it works I'm almost tempted to say we do a 12.3 beta :) @jonnyb what do you think?
[17:26] jonnyb sorry, deep in other stuff... reading
[17:26] nelsonko np, let me test first
[17:27] jonnyb 12.3 for this innodb fix? it seems quite an edge case - innodb was working fine for me and luciash (hi luciash)
[17:28] jonnyb i think maybe we should devote some time to getting x.x.1 releases working in the script (and try and get the incremental update packager working)
[17:28] jonnyb sorry, door
[17:28] arildb jonnyb: did you test on a released Tiki or from the svn version. The latter does not insert tiki-secdb
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[17:33] jonnyb um, think it was the svn version as it wasn't packaged then
[17:34] jonnyb why don't we schedule releasing 12.3 at the same time as 13.0? (and maybe do a beta soon for anyone having trouble with 12.2)
[17:35] arildb jonnyb: that could be a solution
[17:35] arildb nelsonko: any result from your test?
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[17:44] nelsonko arildb: doesn't help for me
[17:44] arildb hm-m
[17:44] arildb still a timeout?
[17:45] arildb you are sure the tiki-secdb file start with: start transaction; and ends with commit; ?
[17:46] arildb an alternative solution is to make the tiki-secdb table myisam. ... by hard-coding it in the installer.
[17:46] nelsonko which file?
[17:47] arildb tiki-secdb sql file
[17:47] nelsonko wait, do I have to run the release script for this to take effect?
[17:47] arildb e.g. tiki-secdb_12.2_mysql.sql
[17:48] luciash jonnyb: the problem we had no issue with innodb was that we tested on svn, not on the tarball produced by the release script - obviously svn version has no secdb related sql operations
[17:48] arildb the name in the script must match the version name
[17:48] luciash jonnyb: hi, i did not know that :-/
[17:48] nelsonko right, I see, let me try a tarball
[17:49] jonnyb nor i - but nelsonko is/was getting timeouts with the svn version, right?
[17:49] luciash nelsonko: imho yes, you need to, just say "no" to the commits
[17:49] nelsonko i get timeout with svn too, yes
[17:49] luciash nelsonko: ah, that is strange then
[17:49] luciash jonnyb: ah, that confuses thing again :-p
[17:49] jonnyb :)
[17:50] nelsonko anyway, let me go back to 12.2 tarballs
[17:53] nelsonko problem now is that the tar balls don't have correct secdb footprints
[17:56] arildb nelsonko: if your svn innodb installation times out, maybe your PHP timeout is set too short?
[17:56] luciash nelsonko: that is why we need to re-run it through the release script i think ?
[17:57] nelsonko luciash, the problem with that is that we pick up a bunch of new commits until today
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[17:58] nelsonko also the release script won't run unless I change some ersion in the code
[18:00] luciash ah, so change it to pre or whatever, you will not commit that anyway if you run the script with --no-commit --no-check-svn
[18:01] nelsonko but shouldn't the secdb .sql file be committed?
[18:01] luciash nelsonko: see http://dev.tiki.org/How%20to%20release#Setup.sh
[18:02] luciash nelsonko: yes, you can commit that manually after you re-run it with correct version name ?
[18:03] nelsonko are you suggesting I commit it into the tag rather than the branch?
[18:03] nelsonko that's kind of non-proper
[18:03] jonnyb wouldn't it be easier & safer (although slower) to run the whole release script again for 12.2? (after removing the current 12.2 tag maybe?)
[18:03] luciash eh, i thought tag is just marking revision point, you cannot commit to tag, can you ?
[18:04] jonnyb brb
[18:04] luciash i can quickly try locally to run it (without commiting)
[18:04] nelsonko jonnyb: at this point if I run the whole release script it insist calling it something other than 12.2
[18:05] GillesM hello with all the predefined style in Tiki 12.1 I don't see the submenu in horizontal menus idea ?
[18:08] jonnyb nelsonko: oh? i didn't think it would know (i can't see how it could actually)
[18:08] jonnyb hi GillesM - are the submenues there but hidden, or not being rendered in the page?
[18:09] GillesM the are masked
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[18:10] luciash nelsonko: this works for me -> $ php doc/devtools/release.php --no-commit --no-check-svn 12.2 pre
[18:13] luciash nelsonko: first svn up the arildb file only, then run this and answer all with "n" except the secdb step
[18:13] nelsonko why the arildb file?
[18:14] nelsonko I thnk the arildb fix can wait till 12.3
[18:14] luciash nelsonko: to implement his fix, no ?
[18:14] luciash nelsonko: ah, then the other file
[18:14] nelsonko no the issue I have right now is with 12.2 that is on source forge right now
[18:14] luciash nelsonko: xavi's file
[18:14] nelsonko right
[18:14] nelsonko it has 3 files actually
[18:14] luciash or any other that is in the tarballs updated
[18:14] luciash ok
[18:15] luciash you do not need to include all commited until today, only up to the revision totally necessary
[18:16] luciash and then let the script package or no, and copy the files manually again
[18:16] nelsonko right, I tried the tar ball and run admin security, it tells me 4 files have been changed
[18:17] nelsonko so I suppose to fix this I could just manually replace the secdb file in the tarballs
[18:17] nelsonko it's better to have a tarball that ships with that correct, right?
[18:18] luciash yes, unles we need the changelog updated
[18:19] luciash does the command work for you if you change in twversion to 12.2 ?
[18:20] luciash php doc/devtools/release.php --no-commit --no-check-svn 12.2 pre
[18:20] luciash nelsonko: ^
[18:20] nelsonko I'm checking out the tag to make sure I have the right files and will run that after
[18:21] luciash ok
[18:25] nelsonko ok it works, I have a new db/tiki-secdb_12.2_mysql.sql
[18:25] xavi back
[18:25] * xavi reading the back log
[18:25] nelsonko and also I have a new changelog.txt as I chose to update that.
[18:30] luciash need to move, good luck !
[18:31] xavi ok, how can I help, nelsonko?
[18:32] nelsonko xavi: when you updated the tar balls last, did you just expand and reconstruct them back?
[18:33] xavi nope, just add (replace) the specific failes from the linux file manager (that can manage compressed files)
[18:33] xavi s/failes/files
[18:33] xavi but this might mean also yes, to your question (the file manager had to do that in the backend)
[18:34] nelsonko xavi, which linux file manager you using? (I am connected to a linux server without GUI)
[18:34] nelsonko and I don't have linux box in front of me right now
[18:34] nelsonko Maybe I can send you the updated file to update the tar balls?
[18:34] xavi "Archive manager" (from Gnome)
[18:35] xavi yes, sure
[18:35] nelsonko can I gzip the file just to make sure it does not corrupt as it is sent to you?
[18:36] xavi yes
[18:36] xavi an sql is just an ascii file , so it should be fine compressed, etc.
[19:00] GillesM Idea about horizontal menu overflow problem?
[19:02] xavi GillesM: Try to reproduce in a show.t.o instance at dev.t.o?
[19:05] GillesM you can see ignu.fr
[19:06] xavi wil you provide a db dump of a tiki (with admin account) where the issue can be reproduced?
[19:06] xavi that's why a show.t.o instance is important to help dev have a look at issues to llok for a fix
[19:06] * jonnyb has a quick look at ignu.fr
[19:09] jonnyb GillesM: try using the menu module instead of a custom one, and add nobox=y param?
[19:09] xavi bbl
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[19:20] GillesM jonnyb, yes it works with standard menu
[19:20] jonnyb super :)
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[19:53] Jyhem_laptop polom guys
[19:54] jonnyb hi Jyhem_laptop
[19:54] aalex nice http://styleguide.allgoo.de/
[19:54] Jyhem_laptop just wanted to mention that I did not follow up on stuff because I caought some flu bug a couple days ago
[19:55] Jyhem_laptop I'm still thinking about how to make the install/upgrade process smoother on production servers
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[21:38] Tiki|bot Info: Tiki 12.2 LTS Release - http://info.tiki.org/article226-Tiki-12-2-LTS-Release
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[21:50] aalex mysql keeps crashing: https://gist.github.com/aalex/5bdd0c9c86b3b13e9508
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[23:08] robertplummer fabricius: Just found a fixed a huge bug in wikiLingo that prevented it from working with many of tiki's plugins.
[23:10] fabricius hi robert
[23:10] fabricius robertplummer: very cool!
[23:10] fabricius what was it?
[23:12] robertplummer fabricius: you are going to laugh
[23:12] robertplummer https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/commit/98960cb9830b3116c4535845766367512a0085ba
[23:12] robertplummer The problem is that tiki wants case sensitive parameters (arguments) for plugins, and I was normalizing them to lower case keys.
[23:13] robertplummer So tiki thought they were not there.
[23:13] robertplummer it is working here, with the image: http://visop-dev.com/tiki-index.php?page=Project%20wikiLingo
[23:13] fabricius haha
[23:14] fabricius robertplummer: another thing related: you have different spelling of the plugins than Tiki or you decided not to take all or you streamlined to the "origininal" Tiki spelling?
[23:15] robertplummer Which plugins?
[23:15] fabricius like {plugin att="value"} / {PLUGIN(att="value")}{PLUGIN} / {PLUGIN(att="value") /}
[23:16] robertplummer fabricius: You mean the syntax.  It was chosen to clean it up to simplify the parser, so that it was more stable was all.
[23:16] robertplummer We want speed, and we want stability.
[23:17] fabricius yes, robertplummer ... want to know if you made different or decided for one or two existing opportunities
[23:17] robertplummer fabricius: All supported expressions- https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/wiki/Expressions-%28aka-%22wiki-syntax%22%29
[23:18] robertplummer Inline plugin: https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/wiki/Expressions-%28aka-%22wiki-syntax%22%29#inline-plugin
[23:18] robertplummer Regular plugin: https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/wiki/Expressions-%28aka-%22wiki-syntax%22%29#standard-plugin
[23:19] robertplummer Adding some info on supported quotations.
[23:24] fabricius nice!
[23:25] robertplummer fabricius: https://github.com/wikiLingo/wikiLingo/wiki/Expressions-%28aka-%22wiki-syntax%22%29#plugins supported parameters
[23:25] fabricius In wikiLingo, HTML is a first class language that can exist right along side standard expressions. HTML such as applet, iframe, link, scripts, & style are turned off by default to ensure platform safety (but these can easily be turned on using events and configurations).
[23:26] fabricius robertplummer: what means "easiliy turned on"?
[23:26] fabricius robertplummer: global or from situation to situation?
[23:27] robertplummer situation to situation.
[23:28] robertplummer For example, we probably don't want those in comments.
[23:28] fabricius how?
[23:28] robertplummer But they may be fine in a wiki page.
[23:29] fabricius I mean on one wikipage in one line I want one of the turned off like applet or iframe ... is there still a plugin like {HTML()}{HTML} ?
[23:30] robertplummer fabricius: Nope.
[23:30] fabricius and how for wikipages, but not for forums or articles? changes in the code?
[23:30] robertplummer fabricius: It just is.
[23:30] robertplummer fabricius: Right, these need to be adapted to tiki soon.
[23:30] robertplummer I need to head out for now.
[23:31] fabricius robertplummer: but without a plugin or so how I could use one on a "to be confirmed by an admin" base?
[23:31] fabricius no problem
[23:31] fabricius see you soon
[23:32] fabricius is the following:
[23:32] fabricius *Item
[23:32] fabricius +next line of same item
[23:32] fabricius still working?
[23:32] fabricius I guess, I have to update and try ;-)
[23:33] robertplummer fabricius: no, that doesn't work anymore in wikiLingo because we fixed the problem that that was used to solve.
[23:33] fabricius ouch :-D
[23:33] robertplummer fabricius: *Item {DIV()}\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n{DIV}\n*Item works fine.
[23:34] fabricius \n as linebrake same as in regex?
[23:35] fabricius why {DIV}\n*Item ?
[23:35] fabricius ah same as
[23:35] fabricius {DIV}
[23:35] fabricius *Item
[23:36] fabricius ah no, now I guess I understand what you meant
[23:36] fabricius will try that
[23:37] robertplummer "\n" is a new line, or a line ending.
[23:37] robertplummer \n* is the syntax for a beginning of a line.
[23:38] fabricius yeah sure, but you can just go to a next line and need no writing of \n I guess? but you can write it and use it like %%%?