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hi
Anyone using tiki spreadheet and can tell me how well it works / how mature it is? ;)
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hi
fabricius: polom
LordVan, still there? Just saw your question.
LordVan: yes still here
fabricius: hi
I am using spreadsheet not intensely, but here and there
LordVan: so how is it from a usability / stability point of view?
lets say compared to google docs calc
fabricius: you cannot compare it with OpenOffice or Google Docs .. it is not a fraction same comfortable
BUT
the basic functionality is there
ist seems to be stable
LordVan: well i don't need much formular,..
fabricius: you can include the sheets and even single fields into wikipages
and it is over all well integrated, as long as you are comfortable with JavaScript
no chance for text readers and nonJS (see accessibility for handicapped persons or security issues for JS avoiders)
hence I am half way sure, that the raw output on a wikipage might work without JS
to make it short: I like the sheets feature as an interesting enhancement
for a private or a non-profit project I have no objections to use it, if it meets requirements and in case a huge professional budget project, funding further development might be a worth to consider alternative towards cloud features like google docs
for what you want to use it, if I may ask?
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LordVan: fabricius, thanks for you answer
and sorry for being afk myself
fabricius, just to document some stuff for a small film project we are doing
fabricius, i mainly want to put things like the list of people,.. in a spreadsheet in there
like who is going with whom in a car,..
anyway i gotta get going but i'll prolly try tiki spreadsheets out later myself
fabricius, thanks again
cya
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Telesight: What will be the main new features in Tiki14? (the list on tiki.org seems not complete)
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there is no way to get tikiwiki work with postgresql is there?
Telesight: LordVan: As far as I know, no
LordVan: damn
i prefer postgres
Telesight: Why?
LordVan: well guess i'll set up mariadb quickly
btw
Telesight, just a personal preference ;) -- goes back some years
anyway
if i just want a quick working install (photos, wiki, spreadsheet) which version is best 9.2 or the dev version ? ;)
Telesight: Well MySQL is not bad, the whole internet is running on it ..
LordVan: Telesight, i had some bad experiences back in the day and also i don't like oracle (which is why i am going to use mariadb)
anyway more importantly: 9.2 is the best idea to get somethign up and running quickly right?
or was there something good with spreadsheets in the newest dev one?
Telesight: I am not familiar with MariaDB, I use Mysql 5.x
LordVan: Telesight, well they forked it for several reasons
also there was some pretty nasty mysql bug a while ago (with sorting) -- some people who use dbmail suffered from that
Telesight: Ok, sad.
LordVan: yeah dbmail stores different chunks of an email in different rows if it's longer
so because of the sorting problem they all got gibberish
anyway
i gotta decide about which version to use for my little project ^ ^ prolly latest STABLe though hehe
Telesight: so it became a poem generator ...
LordVan: Telesight, well yes but of mime-parts
like a bit of base64 encoded pdf in the middle of your email text
fabricius: LordVan: hi
there is something between 9.x and trunk
12 LTS old style theming/template system, but new style themes structure
LordVan: fabricius, hm what would you suggest?
oh and thanks for your advise earlier :D
fabricius: 13 new style theming/template system based on Twitter Bootstrap .. might be a bit of a bumby road for a productive project up to 15 LTS, but on the other hand no transition necessary of a lot of non-Bootstrap to Bootstrap afterwords
So I support a midsized NGO project at the moment who do a transition from Joomla!/MediaWiki to Tiki and strongly advised them to use 13 ... but they have tecchies and a bunch of people and can cope with a bumpy road ... 12 can be another very good alternative, especially, when responsive Bootstrap design is not an issue for a longer period
stability: 12
design: 13
plans to go to 15: 13
so both have advantages and disadvantages ... I am one of the guys, who completely focus on 13, but I know mostly what I do, have a good connection to the devs (as active community member) and have recommended and supported the switch to Bootstrap
LordVan: fabricius, well i just want to set up a completely fresh install where i need photo storage, wiki/text stuff and a spreadsheet
so no migration
and nothing long time
fabricius: do you have a good knowledge in HTML, know Bootstrap, know Tiki since a while, do not fear a bumpy road, etc. then 13 is fine
LordVan: it is likely that i take it off in 2 mohts
fabricius: then maybe better go with 12
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fabricius: technically an upgrade from 12 to 13 is no problem anyway, but adapting configuration and content might need more time and thinking than usual, cause of the design changes to default responsiveness
LordVan: fabricius, definitely 12 then ^ ^
but i somehow donÄT get the version numbers to be honest
fabricius: if you have a look at the Tiki community websites which have been upgraded, you might see what I mean ... looks like a bad situation, but just needs a new appropriate theme and some reconfiguration in respect of design, layout and up to date parts of the content
LordVan: 9.2 , 12, 13, .. ?
fabricius: 9.x, 12.x, 13.x are the branches
as 13.0 (alpha / pre-release) was branched a few weeks ago, now trunk is the pre-14
once 14.0 will be branched, then trunk will be the pre-15
and so on
the branches are getting minor upgrades step by step over the weeks and month
LordVan: ok but why keep 9.x around?
i thougth that 12.2 is LTS
fabricius: like 9.0 alpha/pre-release, 9.0 beta (alpha and beta are not really official namings afaik), the 9.0 RC1, RC2, ... (release canditates) and then finally 9.0
9.x is an LTS branch still supported
actually the long term support period is longer than the next LTS release
LordVan: ah
that is what i found confusing
fabricius: what I see as not bad
LordVan: so i will get 12 ;)
fabricius: ok, so maybe we have to explain that better
LordVan: well tbh i did not look a lot
i just looked at the main download page and was like .. hmm
fabricius: a version is not getting the LTS status from .0, but only later, when proven in production
LordVan: what .. latest stable 9.2 .. ok whatever i take that
;)
fabricius, makes sense
fabricius: take the latest 12
LordVan: ok thanks :D
fabricius: since a few years, not changed up to now, we have a 6 month release period and every third version LTS
LordVan: :)
fabricius: so 3.x LTS, 6.x LTS, 9.x LTS, 12.x LTS, 15.x LTS
and that is why one has to decide whether or not taking the bumby road 13 and 14 to 15
so now I think that is all to know up to the detail
have to VoIP now (call coming in)
c u later
LordVan: k ;) thanks again
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I have TikiWiki 12.2 installed. My Admin panel only displays Upgrade to 12.2 I would like to upgrade to 13.x How to I do this via the Admin panel? Thanx!
fabricius: hi fcpd: I think, you have to do at the server first
fcpd: could you refer me to a page wherein I could learn how to do this, server side? I am comfortable and have cPanel, but I do not want to loose all my trackers. ;)
thanx for the quick reply btw
LordVan: hm i accidentally applied a profile twice
now i have the menu at the top more than once
what's the best way to fix this?
ah never mind found it
admin->menus ^^
can i change my tikiwiki to not let non-registered users see any content easily?
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