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[10:22] neilcreek Hello
[10:23] neilcreek Is anybody available for a tech support query?
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[11:51] xavi polom
[11:51] xavi any tikifesters around? ( amette Jyhem et al)
[11:51] xavi neilcreek: fire your question
[11:52] neilcreek hi! :)
[11:52] xavi (I'll do my best, or others might later on if they are able to read your question... this channel is logged)
[11:52] neilcreek My question is detailed in my post to the forum: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=53111
[11:52] neilcreek Thank you Xavi
[11:52] * xavi reading
[11:54] xavi mmmmm, do you have shell access?
[11:54] xavi or just ftp?
[11:54] xavi in anycase, I'd try ensuring that your .htaccess  is in place working as expected...
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[12:09] neilcreek sorry, I had to take care of something.
[12:09] neilcreek I do have shell access
[12:09] neilcreek the .htaccess is there, as a syn link I believe
[12:13] neilcreek just to test, I renamed the .htaccess syn link to -temp and changed the _htaccess to .htaccess so the syn link is bypassed, and the problem persists
[12:13] neilcreek You can see for yourself at http://neilcreek.com/clrpg
[12:13] xavi ok, did you run 'sh setup.sh'?
[12:15] neilcreek I did
[12:15] xavi mmmm
[12:16] neilcreek I recall there being one permission it couldn't set, because it was outside the folders I'm permitted to access on my web host i believe. But I can't remember what the folder name was
[12:17] xavi it seems that there is some issue with the mysql...
[12:17] xavi let me see... did you try a bare install first?
[12:18] xavi after re-reading your forum post: if the installer can't create the local.php file itself, then you have some permission problem for that server/hosting
[12:18] neilcreek I did, but my host doesn't use "localhost" as the database location. I have to use a variable, and that didn't work in the default installation process. So I had to do it manually
[12:19] xavi you should try another permission model with the 'sh setup.sh', I reckon
[12:19] neilcreek I'm not sure what a "permission model" is?
[12:19] xavi ah, ok, if the problem is the name of the mysql server... then yuo can edit that in the local.php created by the installer
[12:20] neilcreek this is the database host name I'm required to use, which works for wordpress and others: $_ENV{DATABASE_SERVER}
[12:20] neilcreek yes, I have done that. And is why I needed to create the local.php file
[12:20] xavi create or just edit to change that name?
[12:21] neilcreek this is the content of my local.php file (with the password obscured)
[12:21] neilcreek <?php $db_tiki='mysql'; $dbversion_tiki='8.0'; $host_tiki='$_ENV{DATABASE_SERVER}'; $user_tiki='db33105'; $pass_tiki='*****'; $dbs_tiki='db33105_clrpgwiki'; $client_charset='utf8';
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[12:22] xavi is this an upgrade or a new install?
[12:23] * xavi confused after reading your $dbversion_tiki='8.0' but seeing that your site looks like a Tiki13 new install
[12:24] neilcreek it's a new install. I've never used tikiwiki before, so I'm trying to work it all out. I may have got some things wrong as a result
[12:24] xavi hi nelsonko . Do you have any clue if there is some chance to allow remote participants in the TikiFest?
[12:25] nelsonko possibly, we are starting soon. let me try bob one sec
[12:25] xavi nelsonko: ok, thks
[12:25] nelsonko last night last night for most of us here just discussing stuff
[12:25] neilcreek should I change 8.0 to 13.0? I copied the details for the local.php from the site. Perhaps that hadn't been updated to the new version
[12:26] xavi neilcreek: I would suggest that you first try to install your site locally in your computer. Then clone that (as much as possible) to your hosting
[12:27] xavi neilcreek: you can also have a look at a script in the server that might provide more hints in what can be wrong with your setup in that hosting... See http://doc.tiki.org/Server+check
[12:27] neilcreek I don't understand. I'm running windows 7, I've no idea what my host runs, but it's not windows. I don't know how to clone an install?
[12:29] neilcreek I just tried running tiki-check.php  It took me to the sa,e Tiki Installer Security Precaution page, and when i logged into that, back to the installation page
[12:29] xavi ok, ok. you coud get an equivalent environment working in your computer installing a whole xampp bundle in your win7 computer. But I would suggest then first to try to understand what's wrong with your local.php or mysql setup
[12:30] neilcreek I don't want to have to install a web server, php, mysql and whatefver other software I need, just because tiki won't let me progress past one step in the install! That seems excessive, and I don't have that much time
[12:30] xavi mmm, MySQL 5.1.26-rc-5.1.26rc-log .... maybe too old?... let's review the requirements page...
[12:31] xavi http://doc.tiki.org/Requirements#MySQL
[12:31] xavi however, not much information there on the minimum mysql version....
[12:32] xavi anyway, the tiki-check.php should work even if there was some problem with mysql
[12:33] xavi therefore, the problem must be somewhere else... I would ask your sysadmins in that hosting if they allow .htaccess in user accounts
[12:33] neilcreek unfortunately it's not... It DID work at the very first step in the process, before I ran into the database name problem initially. Let me try renaming local.php to see if that lets it run
[12:34] xavi the installer should set $dbversion_tiki to the correct version you are installing for sure
[12:35] neilcreek ok, that allowed tiki-check to run. All is good, except for 4 ugly, and no bad
[12:35] neilcreek I can link you if you'd like to have a look?
[12:35] xavi run the installer then, and let it create the local.php for you
[12:36] xavi then tweak that file created by the installer
[12:36] xavi to provide whatever name for the db server you are told to use
[12:36] xavi and if that doesn't work, ask help to your hosting provider... maybe there is something else or different for you to access your db?
[12:37] nelsonko xavi, could you go into live.tiki.org and test? thanks
[12:37] xavi @nelsonko : yes, sure
[12:38] xavi nelsonko: broken layout in that page (fyi), but that's another topic...
[12:38] neilcreek aahh success! Of course it was something I should have thought of before
[12:39] xavi :-) glad it worked, neilcreek! :-)
[12:39] neilcreek a while back when I had a problem with a different piece of software, my host gave me a direct name for my particular database. I plugged that in instead of "localhost" and it seemed to find it!
[12:39] xavi nelsonko: I can see you, but no mic on your end?
[12:39] nelsonko changing browser, one sec
[12:39] xavi ko
[12:39] xavi s/ko/ok
[12:39] nelsonko for some reason chrome not picking up mic
[12:40] xavi neilcreek: btw, very nice pics and site at your main domain :-)
[12:40] neilcreek Thank you very much xavi! :)
[12:41] neilcreek Once I've got the basic install completed I'll update my post on the forum with my solution. I'll credit you with helping me walk through the issue and resolving it :)
[12:41] xavi nelsonko: in case it matters, it seems Chrome changed the way it handled plugins and such since version 35. In my case, I had to stick with version 34.x for Chrome to work with java, for instance, as usual
[12:41] neilcreek Much appreciated :)
[12:44] xavi you are welcome, neilcreek. I hope you enjoy your stay in the Tiki Community! :-)
[12:45] neilcreek Thank you :)
[12:45] neilcreek Good night!
[12:45] xavi g'night!
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[13:30] xavi hi amette
[13:33] xavi torsten can't be heard much from the mic (at the tiki fest)
[13:33] xavi nor jyhem
[13:34] xavi in case there is some rellevant discussion that you want it to be recorded properly, you'd better set the computer with the mic in the middle (even if you get rid of the video stream). I presume that current audio recorded won't be of much help later on for people willing to listen to the meeting discussions
[13:38] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5439
[13:46] xavi the audio at the fest is waaaaay better :-)
[14:04] Tiki|bot Info: New Tiki Community Video - http://info.tiki.org/article229-New-Tiki-Community-Video
[14:32] XGuarden im back
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[14:53] fabricius Xavi???
[14:53] xavi yes
[14:54] fabricius Audio still good?
[14:54] xavi kind of, even if difficult to follow the whole discussion
[14:54] fabricius hi XGuarden
[14:55] xavi for instance, I wrote in bbb chat that I didn't get the conclusion of the discussion about the mail server
[14:55] xavi ^ fabricius
[14:55] fabricius xavi: sure ... we are not trained to concentrated on getting recorded
[14:55] xavi yes, I know :-)
[14:56] xavi maybe if there were some clear conclusions on the topics discussed, they could be added as text in the tiki.org page about the fest
[14:56] xavi for instance
[14:56] xavi at http://tiki.org/TikiFestSysAdmin#Major_topics_for_DevOps
[14:57] fabricius ahh ... frank will take care on the mailserver and an it-service-provider he knows since long and I met recently working together for a week will host it ... frank wil do the moving and maintanance .. nelson pays
[14:57] fabricius anyway we make notes and create a wikistructure with results etc.
[14:57] xavi ok, thanks
[14:58] xavi I still see that a good opportunity would be to set up ClearOS with Zarafa for that
[14:58] fabricius next thing we concluded this morning at breakfast: DevOps is not an appropriate wording for a useful widespread understanding
[14:58] xavi yes, I agree :-)
[14:58] fabricius so we go back to what the guys actually do: sysadmin
[14:59] xavi yes, clearer for my understanding also :-)
[14:59] fabricius that's why I backnamed the page (and added alias for bookmarks)
[14:59] xavi ok
[15:03] fabricius next: I brought up a few issues which are having to do with marketing, design and a project you are doing with organic groups and dashboard - not closely, but overlapping a bit
[15:03] xavi ok
[15:03] xavi thks
[15:04] fabricius tiki community websites are our all vcard - community, consultants, coders, compynies
[15:04] fabricius never have been nice and sexy, but now the situation is getting very bad
[15:06] fabricius we agreed so far, that at least a professional designer is needed to make at least draft and suggestion of stylesheet and basic layout and I have a few ideas closely connected to that, alike landing pages etc.  ...
[15:06] fabricius we will have to go back to that discussion later on, but so far we have a direction about some very soon action
[15:06] fabricius kind of asap
[15:07] fabricius and besides the discussions some extra marketing ideas
[15:07] xavi regarding the previous discussion at the TikiFestSysAdmin, remember that some guidelines were written/proposed some months ago: http://tiki.org/CommunityCoordinationPlanning?structure=Admins+Team#Sysadmin_REAL_AMP_Server_management
[15:07] xavi ^ amette
[15:08] fabricius thx xavi
[15:09] xavi ok, thks to you for being the link between the outside world and current face-to-face tikifesters :-)
[15:09] amette cheer xavi
[15:09] xavi :-)
[15:10] fabricius I just got the message, that I am not filtered in IRC
[15:11] fabricius could anybody provide Jyhem with the info how this would work?
[15:13] fabricius maybe he joked ... French humor or so ...
[15:14] xavi amette fabricius et al.: we are currently using http://www.uptimerobot.com to monitor many *.t.o sites, afaik
[15:17] amette login data in clipperz?
[15:32] xavi yes
[15:42] amette :)
[15:46] xavi amette: user "tiki"
[15:47] xavi regarding the discussion in the tikifest: according to  http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle tiki 9.x LTS is maintained until november 2015
[15:47] xavi so we could (should?) think in profiles.t.o using tiki 9.x until there or so
[15:48] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5440
[15:52] fabricius yes xavi, profiles
[15:52] fabricius we identified a few "minor" sites to keep pre 13
[15:53] xavi ok
[15:55] fabricius although we say *info.tiki.org* must be on 13 *asap after* we have a community agreed new design and *i18n.tiki.org* must be up to date to be able to translate actual versions
[15:56] fabricius (info for marketing reason for the various affected groups in the community)
[16:10] xavi bbl
[16:18] xavi back
[16:23] fabricius hi Xavi
[16:25] xavi hi fabricius
[16:25] amette http://tiki.org/CommunityCoordinationPlanning
[16:41] xavi bbl
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[18:42] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Unhide 'Article generator' infos for novice admins in Tip remarksboxes (Tips can be closed for experienced admins). Should serve to close issues like the one reported in bug4930.
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[21:37] fcpd TikiWiki 12.2:  Is there a simple way to justify text that I write in TikiWiki? I wasn't able to find an option in the toolbar like WordPress or others. Thanx!
[21:57] fcpd Would also like to learn how to create background images per page if it is possible
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