#tikiwiki 2014-08-22,Fri

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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Tiki Installer Security Precaution loop when installing - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=53111 New Forum Posts: Sistema de tickets - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=53110 New Forum Posts: Overriding the template file of a layout - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53106	[02:05]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Jyhem on Vimeo, Youtube and tv.tiki.org - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53116	[04:15]
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neilcreek	joined #tikiwiki Hello Is anybody available for a tech support query?	[10:21]
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xavi	polom any tikifesters around? ( amette Jyhem et al) neilcreek: fire your question	[11:51]
neilcreek	hi! :)	[11:52]
xavi	(I'll do my best, or others might later on if they are able to read your question... this channel is logged)	[11:52]
neilcreek	My question is detailed in my post to the forum: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=53111 Thank you Xavi	[11:52]
xavi	xavi reading mmmmm, do you have shell access? or just ftp? in anycase, I'd try ensuring that your .htaccess is in place working as expected...	[11:52]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Jyhem on Vimeo, Youtube and tv.tiki.org - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53116 New Forum Posts: Tiki Installer Security Precaution loop when installing - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=53111 New Forum Posts: Sistema de tickets - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=53110	[11:55]
	New Forum Posts: Jyhem on Vimeo, Youtube and tv.tiki.org - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53116 New Forum Posts: Tiki Installer Security Precaution loop when installing - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=53111 New Forum Posts: Sistema de tickets - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=53110	[12:05]
neilcreek	sorry, I had to take care of something. I do have shell access the .htaccess is there, as a syn link I believe just to test, I renamed the .htaccess syn link to -temp and changed the _htaccess to .htaccess so the syn link is bypassed, and the problem persists You can see for yourself at http://neilcreek.com/clrpg	[12:09]
xavi	ok, did you run 'sh setup.sh'?	[12:13]
neilcreek	I did	[12:15]
xavi	mmmm	[12:15]
neilcreek	I recall there being one permission it couldn't set, because it was outside the folders I'm permitted to access on my web host i believe. But I can't remember what the folder name was	[12:16]
xavi	it seems that there is some issue with the mysql... let me see... did you try a bare install first? after re-reading your forum post: if the installer can't create the local.php file itself, then you have some permission problem for that server/hosting	[12:17]
neilcreek	I did, but my host doesn't use "localhost" as the database location. I have to use a variable, and that didn't work in the default installation process. So I had to do it manually	[12:18]
xavi	you should try another permission model with the 'sh setup.sh', I reckon	[12:19]
neilcreek	I'm not sure what a "permission model" is?	[12:19]
xavi	ah, ok, if the problem is the name of the mysql server... then yuo can edit that in the local.php created by the installer	[12:19]
neilcreek	this is the database host name I'm required to use, which works for wordpress and others: $_ENV{DATABASE_SERVER} yes, I have done that. And is why I needed to create the local.php file	[12:20]
xavi	create or just edit to change that name?	[12:20]
neilcreek	this is the content of my local.php file (with the password obscured) <?php $db_tiki='mysql'; $dbversion_tiki='8.0'; $host_tiki='$_ENV{DATABASE_SERVER}'; $user_tiki='db33105'; $pass_tiki='*****'; $dbs_tiki='db33105_clrpgwiki'; $client_charset='utf8';	[12:21]
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xavi	is this an upgrade or a new install? xavi confused after reading your $dbversion_tiki='8.0' but seeing that your site looks like a Tiki13 new install	[12:22]
neilcreek	it's a new install. I've never used tikiwiki before, so I'm trying to work it all out. I may have got some things wrong as a result	[12:24]
xavi	hi nelsonko . Do you have any clue if there is some chance to allow remote participants in the TikiFest?	[12:24]
nelsonko	possibly, we are starting soon. let me try bob one sec	[12:25]
xavi	nelsonko: ok, thks	[12:25]
nelsonko	last night last night for most of us here just discussing stuff	[12:25]
neilcreek	should I change 8.0 to 13.0? I copied the details for the local.php from the site. Perhaps that hadn't been updated to the new version	[12:25]
xavi	neilcreek: I would suggest that you first try to install your site locally in your computer. Then clone that (as much as possible) to your hosting neilcreek: you can also have a look at a script in the server that might provide more hints in what can be wrong with your setup in that hosting... See http://doc.tiki.org/Server+check	[12:26]
neilcreek	I don't understand. I'm running windows 7, I've no idea what my host runs, but it's not windows. I don't know how to clone an install? I just tried running tiki-check.php It took me to the sa,e Tiki Installer Security Precaution page, and when i logged into that, back to the installation page	[12:27]
xavi	ok, ok. you coud get an equivalent environment working in your computer installing a whole xampp bundle in your win7 computer. But I would suggest then first to try to understand what's wrong with your local.php or mysql setup	[12:29]
neilcreek	I don't want to have to install a web server, php, mysql and whatefver other software I need, just because tiki won't let me progress past one step in the install! That seems excessive, and I don't have that much time	[12:30]
xavi	mmm, MySQL 5.1.26-rc-5.1.26rc-log .... maybe too old?... let's review the requirements page... http://doc.tiki.org/Requirements#MySQL however, not much information there on the minimum mysql version.... anyway, the tiki-check.php should work even if there was some problem with mysql therefore, the problem must be somewhere else... I would ask your sysadmins in that hosting if they allow .htaccess in user accounts	[12:30]
neilcreek	unfortunately it's not... It DID work at the very first step in the process, before I ran into the database name problem initially. Let me try renaming local.php to see if that lets it run	[12:33]
xavi	the installer should set $dbversion_tiki to the correct version you are installing for sure	[12:34]
neilcreek	ok, that allowed tiki-check to run. All is good, except for 4 ugly, and no bad I can link you if you'd like to have a look?	[12:35]
xavi	run the installer then, and let it create the local.php for you then tweak that file created by the installer to provide whatever name for the db server you are told to use and if that doesn't work, ask help to your hosting provider... maybe there is something else or different for you to access your db?	[12:35]
nelsonko	xavi, could you go into live.tiki.org and test? thanks	[12:37]
xavi	@nelsonko : yes, sure nelsonko: broken layout in that page (fyi), but that's another topic...	[12:37]
neilcreek	aahh success! Of course it was something I should have thought of before	[12:38]
xavi	:-) glad it worked, neilcreek! :-)	[12:39]
neilcreek	a while back when I had a problem with a different piece of software, my host gave me a direct name for my particular database. I plugged that in instead of "localhost" and it seemed to find it!	[12:39]
xavi	nelsonko: I can see you, but no mic on your end?	[12:39]
nelsonko	changing browser, one sec	[12:39]
xavi	ko s/ko/ok	[12:39]
nelsonko	for some reason chrome not picking up mic	[12:39]
xavi	neilcreek: btw, very nice pics and site at your main domain :-)	[12:40]
neilcreek	Thank you very much xavi! :) Once I've got the basic install completed I'll update my post on the forum with my solution. I'll credit you with helping me walk through the issue and resolving it :)	[12:40]
xavi	nelsonko: in case it matters, it seems Chrome changed the way it handled plugins and such since version 35. In my case, I had to stick with version 34.x for Chrome to work with java, for instance, as usual	[12:41]
neilcreek	Much appreciated :)	[12:41]
xavi	you are welcome, neilcreek. I hope you enjoy your stay in the Tiki Community! :-)	[12:44]
neilcreek	Thank you :) Good night!	[12:45]
xavi	g'night!	[12:45]
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amette	polom	[13:12]
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xavi	hi amette torsten can't be heard much from the mic (at the tiki fest) nor jyhem in case there is some rellevant discussion that you want it to be recorded properly, you'd better set the computer with the mic in the middle (even if you get rid of the video stream). I presume that current audio recorded won't be of much help later on for people willing to listen to the meeting discussions	[13:30]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5439	[13:38]
xavi	the audio at the fest is waaaaay better :-)	[13:46]
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Tiki\|bot	Info: New Tiki Community Video - http://info.tiki.org/article229-New-Tiki-Community-Video	[14:04]
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XGuarden	im back	[14:32]
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fabricius	Xavi???	[14:53]
xavi	yes	[14:53]
fabricius	Audio still good?	[14:54]
xavi	kind of, even if difficult to follow the whole discussion	[14:54]
fabricius	hi XGuarden	[14:54]
xavi	for instance, I wrote in bbb chat that I didn't get the conclusion of the discussion about the mail server ^ fabricius	[14:55]
fabricius	xavi: sure ... we are not trained to concentrated on getting recorded	[14:55]
xavi	yes, I know :-) maybe if there were some clear conclusions on the topics discussed, they could be added as text in the tiki.org page about the fest for instance at http://tiki.org/TikiFestSysAdmin#Major_topics_for_DevOps	[14:55]
fabricius	ahh ... frank will take care on the mailserver and an it-service-provider he knows since long and I met recently working together for a week will host it ... frank wil do the moving and maintanance .. nelson pays anyway we make notes and create a wikistructure with results etc.	[14:57]
xavi	ok, thanks I still see that a good opportunity would be to set up ClearOS with Zarafa for that	[14:57]
fabricius	next thing we concluded this morning at breakfast: DevOps is not an appropriate wording for a useful widespread understanding	[14:58]
xavi	yes, I agree :-)	[14:58]
fabricius	so we go back to what the guys actually do: sysadmin	[14:58]
xavi	yes, clearer for my understanding also :-)	[14:59]
fabricius	that's why I backnamed the page (and added alias for bookmarks)	[14:59]
xavi	ok	[14:59]
fabricius	next: I brought up a few issues which are having to do with marketing, design and a project you are doing with organic groups and dashboard - not closely, but overlapping a bit	[15:03]
xavi	ok thks	[15:03]
fabricius	tiki community websites are our all vcard - community, consultants, coders, compynies never have been nice and sexy, but now the situation is getting very bad we agreed so far, that at least a professional designer is needed to make at least draft and suggestion of stylesheet and basic layout and I have a few ideas closely connected to that, alike landing pages etc. ... we will have to go back to that discussion later on, but so far we have a direction about some very soon action kind of asap and besides the discussions some extra marketing ideas	[15:04]
xavi	regarding the previous discussion at the TikiFestSysAdmin, remember that some guidelines were written/proposed some months ago: http://tiki.org/CommunityCoordinationPlanning?structure=Admins+Team#Sysadmin_REAL_AMP_Server_management ^ amette	[15:07]
fabricius	thx xavi	[15:08]
xavi	ok, thks to you for being the link between the outside world and current face-to-face tikifesters :-)	[15:09]
amette	cheer xavi	[15:09]
xavi	:-)	[15:09]
fabricius	I just got the message, that I am not filtered in IRC could anybody provide Jyhem with the info how this would work? maybe he joked ... French humor or so ...	[15:10]
xavi	amette fabricius et al.: we are currently using http://www.uptimerobot.com to monitor many *.t.o sites, afaik	[15:14]
amette	login data in clipperz?	[15:17]
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xavi	yes	[15:32]
amette	:)	[15:42]
xavi	amette: user "tiki" regarding the discussion in the tikifest: according to http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle tiki 9.x LTS is maintained until november 2015 so we could (should?) think in profiles.t.o using tiki 9.x until there or so	[15:46]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5440	[15:48]
fabricius	yes xavi, profiles we identified a few "minor" sites to keep pre 13	[15:52]
xavi	ok	[15:53]
fabricius	although we say info.tiki.org must be on 13 asap after we have a community agreed new design and i18n.tiki.org must be up to date to be able to translate actual versions (info for marketing reason for the various affected groups in the community)	[15:55]
xavi	bbl	[16:10]
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fabricius	hi Xavi	[16:23]
xavi	hi fabricius	[16:25]
amette	http://tiki.org/CommunityCoordinationPlanning	[16:25]
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Topic	for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the Free & Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki LTS version 12.2 (Altair) is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log)	[17:26]
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Tiki-KGB	03xavidp r52381 10branches/13.x/templates/ 10admin/include_articles.tpl 10tiki-admin_rssmodules.tpl [FIX]Unhide 'Article generator' infos for novice admins in Tip remarksboxes (Tips can be closed for experienced admins). Should serve to close issues like the one reported in bug4930. 03xavidp r52382 10branches/12.x/templates/ 10tiki-admin_rssmodules.tpl 10admin/include_articles.tpl [bp/r52381][FIX]Unhide 'Article generator' infos for novice admins in Tip remarksboxes (Tips can be closed for experienced admins). Should serve to close issues like the one reported in bug4930.	[18:42]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5441	[23:38]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Problem with sort in articles plugin - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=53122 New Forum Posts: Any problems running Tiki 12 on PHP 5.5 - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53120 New Forum Posts: Jyhem on Vimeo, Youtube and tv.tiki.org - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53116	[23:56]

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