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Tiki-KGB03nkoth r52406 10trunk/lib/core/Search/Elastic/QueryBuilder.php
[FIX] Make range query using elasticsearch inclusive of upper boundary to be consistent with other engines (but committing only to trunk as not sure if it deserves a backport) 		[00:42]
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[ENH] Allow making use of elasticsearch internal capability of indexing numeric fields for range filtering without padding, and implement for numeric tracker field.
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tablesorter: correcting the path didn't seem to work. completely remove then add back later.
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Tiki-KGB03lindonb r52410 10trunk/doc/devtools/satis.json * tablesorter: add back version 2.17.7 [01:30]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Tablesorter on composer.tiki.org - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53183 [04:11]
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CalypHi, I've been looking around a bit, and trying to test TikiWiki's graphical editor, but find demo-sites to be messy and confusing so far. I have tried to find sites that actually use TikiWiki to go look at, but find it hard to locate any. Does anyone have a few links/examples of actual users?
I basically need a wiki that has a low-as-possible entry level for unfamiliars to use 		[10:21]
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fabriciushey there
polom
Calyp hi 		[13:38]
Calyphi fabricius [13:47]
fabriciusyou need a wiki with a low entry level?
Calyp:
and you are wondering, wether Tiki could meet your requirements, but
you are unshure, if Tiki might be the right choice ... maybe too complicated, maybe the information for evaluation too messy?
so, what is your use case? 		[13:53]
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hi
8:30 here =:0) 		[14:28]
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fabricius14:42 here :-D [14:43]
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Calypfabricius: basically, I run a department in a project with a huge turn-over of people, working on various projects, witha completely medieval non-protocol or documenting things. So yeah, markup is out of the question really, it has to be as easy as word processing, to move my collegues over to documenting in a wiki [15:51]
fabriciushum Calyp no markup means WYSIWYG ... we have CKE integrated in Tiki as WYSIWYG editor, but I do not like it so much. A promising approach for an alternative would be wikiLingo, but I believe that is not yet good for productive use ... just testing with XGuarden and being frequently in contact with the wikiLingo developer Robert [15:57]
XGuarden=:0) [15:59]
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XGuardenCurently my page: http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Changement+de+pilotes&no_bl=y
I updated the code
But for unknow reason I get two trouble.
Interline is bigger then before
And the border look like not align 		[16:04]
fabriciusXGuarden: please do an F5
(reload page)
XGuarden: I reactivated WYSIWYG with (I think so) all previous settings http://uni-action.com/wiki/Changement+de+pilotes and I deactivated wikiLingo http://uni-action.com/wiki/Changement+de+pilotes+wikiLingo
Thus the wikiLingo TABS plugin does not work (what is obvious, as this plugin is one of the only few differences between wikiLingo and WikiSyntax 		[16:10]
just tested both active: WYSIWYG (CKE) and wikiLingo, but I think, that is not a good idea [16:18]
XGuardenOK , I see
look fun to me =:0) 		[16:26]
fabriciusreally?
right now swaitching on and off and testing with the wikiLingo version - braking and fixing
I will try to get Robert and discuss what is missing to get wikiLingo somehow to betaproduction usable 		[16:28]
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XGuardenok [16:34]
Calypfabricius: kudos for the response. We first opted for MediaWiki, but the older wysywyg-ish editor kinda died off, and the new "VisualEitor" is unstable to the point of using nightly builds afaik
I find it utterly strange that there just seems to be no good widely adopted true wysiwyg editor in any wiki so far (???)
Pardon for posting MediaWiki links here ;) But I think they describe the situation I find myself in pretty good: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal/Why 		[16:46]
fabriciusCalyp: explenation is easy: for a wiki you need markup / wikisyntax and non-tecchie user need time to adopt and often just tend to refuse <-> thus an editor has to translate (parse) between html and markup, what seems not to be trivial [16:50]
CalypCalyp wishes he could plug in to the matrix and download a lifetime of programming experiences to solv such issues [16:50]
fabriciuswe have no problems with media wiki ... they have different focus, but we are all FOSS and thus kind of one tribe somehow, even as Tiki is our family [16:51]
Calypfabricius: It's funny how no other form of writing documentation "has to" be written in what is essentialy code. [16:51]
fabriciusCalyp: I had a similar situation about four years ago, where the board of a local NGO wanted desperately WYSIWYG ... I kind of provided WYSIWYG as is in Tiki, did a good bit of in-community testing and finally set the rule: write WikiSyntax!, the CKE will be and stay deactivated, cause I do not have time to regularly go to pages and fix the ugly HTML code
I hope, that wikiLingo will become a good alternative, as it seems to be(come) quite stable and compatible to Tikis markup
on the other hand, our markup is not difficult and it just runs 		[16:55]
XGuarden: just chatting with Robert from wikiLingo ... we plan to check the issues from your site in a few hours - need to leave the house and will come back soon [17:04]
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XGuardenok [17:06]
fabriciusXGuarden: you seem to be about 6 hours behind my time (east coast US or CAN?) ... maybe we can meet lateron about 3pm / 1500 your time? [17:06]
XGuardenCanada quebec [17:18]
fabriciusMontréal? Ottawa? [17:19]
XGuardenQuébec city
Montréal time..
Curently it's 11:21 here
yes it's fine
3pm is fine 		[17:20]
fabriciusXGuarden: before I go: just tested the together.js on your site - awesome! I created a user for Robert, one guest.for.test (for me to check if together works fine enough) and will do one user for myself, as you might use the admin ... then we can collaborate and follow one another thoughout the site, seeing what the others see, including shared editing [17:29]
XGuardenok perfect
what do together.js? lol 		[17:29]
fabriciusit is a jQuery plugin developed and published by the mozilla foundation for sharing content ... collaborative editing and training with shared window (actually browser-tab)
one user activates and provides the other ones a link
provided all are logged in with the same permissions, one can move around the site and the others follow either manually or automatically
is together active and all are on the same page, it is even possible to simultaneously edit a wikipage, whilst this specific feature might need a bit enhancement compared to etherpad ... in general and with a bit of discipline it really works fine
so, have to go
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olinuxxsee ya' [19:28]
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XGuardenhum, I cant save anymore my wiki lol [20:02]
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hum [20:43]
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fabriciusrehi
XGuarden: whazup? not able to save your wiki? 		[21:10]
XGuardennop [21:10]
fabriciushmm [21:10]
XGuardenbutton save did't work [21:10]
fabriciusah [21:10]
XGuardenproprerty tab too so I gest it's something more general [21:11]
fabriciushave a link to the page - or all pages?
maybe an unclosed div somewhere? 		[21:11]
XGuardenall page [21:11]
fabriciusouuuuch
checking 		[21:11]
XGuardenI tryed to replace FANCYTABLE, like you told but cant save lol [21:12]
fabriciusaye aye sir, problem found [21:19]
XGuardenlol
comming from? 		[21:19]
fabriciuscustom module with wikiplugin {together} in pagebottom -> did move to footer and works again.
no clue why that interferes 		[21:20]
XGuardenok funny lol [21:26]
http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Liste+des+pilotes+pour+changement+pilotes
I create a pag with ouly the list.
Not sure how tu use the thing you told me for replace fancytalbe 		[21:33]
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Can you remember me the name of the plugin to use to replace fancytable? [22:04]
fabriciustrackerlist
but then you need a tracker also
XGuarden: you did install via ftp-download and upload to directory? 		[22:14]
XGuardennop [22:21]
fabriciussvn? [22:21]
XGuardenI thinking tracker list is just another plugin.. no that? [22:22]
fabriciusdon't see the revision number
ah XGuarden you create a tracker, then you add items to a tracker, then you show the items in a wikipage with trackerlist
for only few items too much work
but the more items come, the more efficient 		[22:22]
XGuardenok [22:23]
fabriciusthinking on your drivers and maybe more products ... all in one wikipage? uhhhh.
trackers are kind of a database in the database 		[22:23]
XGuardenI want to put the list somewhere else
for clarity 		[22:24]
fabriciuswhere? [22:24]
XGuardenin another wiki page hidden to user
this one: http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Liste+des+pilotes+pour+changement+pilotes 		[22:25]
{TRACKER(trackerId, fields, action, showtitle, showdesc, showmandatory, embedded, email, view, url)}user-defined text{TRACKER}
oups not the good thing
https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerList look good look like to autorize to create a fancytable with source on another wiki... I think...
Im not sure I can extract the list for put it on another page, what did you think? 		[22:30]
I will need to go soon [22:51]
fabriciuson your site with Robert now ... checking wikiLingo [22:52]
XGuardennice
I need to go dinner in 4 minutes, but feal free to play with the site. I will conect back later today or tomorow morning. 		[22:56]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Status in object_link - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53191 [23:33]
fabriciusXGuarden: are you still there? [23:44]
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