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   fabricius: hi thomas_r
   <br> <u>thomas_r</u>: Tiki does not support markdown by default
   <br> you need markdown support thomas_r ?
   refizul: <u>fabricius</u>: 22:51 thomas_r has quit
   fabricius: I see him in the list right hand site
   <br> ahh that is an error
   <br> indeed he is not online anymore
   <br> thx
   refizul: this is starnge
   fabricius: starnge? what's that?
   refizul: this is strange
   fabricius: ah gone now - not in the list anymore ... maybe my client had cached or so
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   <br> Can anyone tell me where the icon is for the map markers in TikiWiki 12.2? Currently, it is a red diamond
   refizul: can you do a rightclick and isolate the icon in the webbrowser?
   fcpb: Will try that didn't think of it thanx!
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   refizul: <u>fabricius</u>: look
   fabricius: <u>refizul</u>: re
   <br> ah
   <br> <u>thomas_r</u>: rehi
   <br> <u>thomas_r</u>: Tiki does not support Markdown
   thomas_r: ah thanks
   <br> that's sad :(
   Jyhem: well, Tiki has its own markdown language
   <br> Better, of course ;-)
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   <br> bonjour bonsoir
   <br> hi all
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   <br> hi
   <br> is there an easy way to use tikiwiki as photo gallery where I can assign view/edit/tag/.. permissions to users/groups ?
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   chibaguy: LordVan, I don't know other than using the gallery permissions. Would it work to have a gallery for each group?
   LordVan: hm
   <br> mostly
   <br> although it'd be nice to have some photos only visible to individual people
   <br> but i guess I could work with a group based system
   <br> just need to assign people to groups instead of groups to galleries
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   <br> ping refizul
   <br> ping amete_
   <br> amette_
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   refizul: polom
   fabricius: polom
   nelsonko: polom
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   <br> polom (fainlly)
   <br> finally...
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   jonnyb: polomarclaporte
   marclaporte: polom jonnyb
   <br> &amp; polom all
   jonnyb: Am i imagining it, or isn't there a way (in 12.x) to have rating "stars" on comments?
   <br> I switch it on (i thought) and all i get is a single radio button and a "rate" button (not really what the client is expecting ;)
   marclaporte: The votes on comments are used for http://doc.tiki.org/Karma
   LordVan: so anyway
   <br> about my earlier question about gallery
   <br> how would it work to set up galleries with group permissions?
   jonnyb: hi LordVan - sorry, missed it - you mean file galleries i presume?
   LordVan: let me paste from earlier:
   <br> [14:27] LordVan is there an easy way to use tikiwiki as photo gallery where I can assign view/edit/tag/.. permissions to users/groups ?
   jonnyb: yes, file galleries will do that
   <br> there is (sadly) still an old feature "image galleries" that should have been removed ages ago but no one's made a migration script
   LordVan: jonnyb, but file galleries have this file manager like look not a gallery style that i am looking for .. or is there an easy way to do that?
   jonnyb: the galleries have a "browse" mode, which is for images
   <br> it generally needs some CSS work to get it to look nice though
   LordVan: ok are there some (freely available) examples?
   jonnyb: however, sometimes it's easier to use the filegals to store the photos and use wiki pages with img plugins in to display them
   <br> there should be quite a bit on doc.tiki.org (but it's down for me currently due to a DNS weirdness)
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   LordVan: img plugin?
   <br> you mean something that will automatically insert them into a wiki page?
   <br> jonnyb, that looks nice yes
   <br> what i would like to have in addition is just an ability to comment on photos / tag them maybe
   jonnyb: i think you can add tags ("freetags"), not sure about comments
   LordVan: k well i think i could make do with tags
   jonnyb: but you could do all that with trackers
   LordVan: trackers again .. ^ ^
   <br> taht seems like a complex subject
   jonnyb: trackers do everything! :)
   LordVan: lol
   <br> i read a bit but was like .. hmm ok i don't have time for this now ^ ^
   <br> anyway regarding gallery i also am considering the one that comes with horde: http://www.horde.org/apps/ansel/screenshots looks nice ^ ^
   jonnyb: understandable
   LordVan: while i would really like to build my own i simply do not have the time
   <br> so now i am looking at what tikiwiki, horde,.. have to offer
   <br> ;)
   <br> actually i only found the horde one by accident when i was looking for something completely different ;)
   jonnyb: i thought horde was a webmail client
   LordVan: that was ages ago
   <br> it is more of a groupware now
   <br> and they have stuff like galleries and other sthings
   jonnyb: if you specifically just want a photo gallery there probably are other, prettier single-task apps out there
   LordVan: jonnyb, i know i am still looking
   <br> i am not against having something that can do more of course
   <br> i am not entirely happy with my drupal install at the  moment either
   <br> quite a pain to upgrade .. with all the seperate modules,..
   jonnyb: but often projects like that tend to creep - can we have a discussion forum, or quizzes or user groups etc etc
   <br> yes, i've heard that
   LordVan: that is definitely a pluspoint of tikiwiki .. one tar.gz/zip file and done
   <br> ^ ^
   jonnyb: Drupal was the last thing i evaluated (years ago) before plunging into tiki, i've heard upgrades are hard...
   LordVan: did you look at the screenshots of the horde gallery? that does look like a nice interface .. of course i have no idea if it works exactly for me but the screenshots are pretty and the feature list looks good .. not sure if it all works as i think it does though ;)
   <br> jonnyb, the only reason i was reluctant about tikiwiki was mysql/mariadb since i personally prefer postgresql
   jonnyb: i know what you mean, but have stopped thinking about that sort of thing :)
   LordVan: hehe
   <br> well yes
   <br> i had looked at the tikifork as wella t some point
   <br> i think bitweaver was it?
   jonnyb: we did try to include postgresql in tiki but it failed, not enough people helping
   LordVan: that does support postgresql
   <br> hm
   <br> i could definitely do testing/debugging of postgres stuff
   <br> ^ ^
   jonnyb: not sure if bitweaver is still being developed (much) these days
   LordVan: no clue
   <br> their irc was rather quiet last time i lurked
   <br> that is why i went back to tiki for something again
   <br> btw
   jonnyb: can be rather quiet here too from time to time
   LordVan: is there some (easy) way to import drupal blog posts and stuff to tiki?
   <br> i know
   jonnyb: checking the code commits is usually a good indication
   LordVan: but if it makes a difference to me if i can get anyone to at least answer me for a whole day or not
   jonnyb: tiki has importers from mediawiki and wordpress - but both are a bit old and quite basic
   LordVan: I forgot what that page was called taht keeps track of commits on different FOSS projects
   jonnyb: so if you can get from drupal to WP maybe..?
   LordVan: meh
   jonnyb: ohlo?
   LordVan: ah that one yes
   jonnyb: hmm, not quite - something like that
   LordVan: ohloh .. has changed to openhub ;)
   jonnyb: aha, not it's https://www.openhub.net
   <br> :)
   LordVan: bitweaver had last commit 2 months ago
   <br> horde 10 days
   <br> tiki 13 ;)
   jonnyb: coo, we're "very high" activity :)
   LordVan: lol i forget they renamed freshmeat.net to freecode
   <br> ^^
   jonnyb: that's just when they last updated
   LordVan: well yes
   <br> i wonder how difficult it would be to get tikiwiki look as nice as that horde gallery ^ ^
   jonnyb: unusual for tiki nothing today, but i did a few yesterday
   <br> wonder if luciash is about (he makes tikis look nice!)
   LordVan: hehe
   <br> hm most photo gallery stuff on freecode seems to be not very much maintained
   <br> the thing is
   <br> while there are a lot of photo gallery web based solutions
   <br> not many seem to have things like permissions
   <br> and i *do not* want to post all photos publically
   <br> I used to do webpages for people but somehow web development started to annoy me -- mindyou that was the time of lots and lots of browser incompatibilities (just about when javascript started)
   jonnyb: a while back then
   <br> htrml5 and jquery makes it all much easier than the old days
   LordVan: yeah
   <br> i am talking ~ 2000 ;)
   <br> would drive you nuts to get just about anything just look the same in IE and netscape
   <br> never mind opera ^ ^
   jonnyb: i never had (minded Opera ;) )
   <br> never had a client willing to pay for debugging for it
   LordVan: haha
   <br> i had to get things to work on IE 3, IE4 - later IE5 and a few netscape versions
   <br> o.o
   <br> oh also different versions of IE 5.x sometimes
   <br> makes you want to switch profession ;)
   jonnyb: IE is still a challenge sometimes (of course)
   LordVan: IE is *always* a pain ^ ^
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   Tiki-KGB: 03nkoth r52436 10branches/13.x/tiki-contact.php
   <br> [FIX] When priority field is hidden, there should be still a default valid priority set
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   <br> [bp/r52436][FIX] When priority field is hidden, there should be still a default valid priority set
   olinuxx: bonsoir
   <br> see you all
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   <br> I just setup a new tiki 13. When I create a user and check the box 'Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account.', the mail does NOT go to the user's email address. It goes to the 'sender email' as entered in the General Preferences. (the address FROM which the email should appear to originate)
   Tiki-KGB: 03nkoth r52438 10branches/ 1013.x/lib/messu/messulib.php 1013.x/tiki-contact.php * [FIX] Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient
   refizul: <u>BusMaster</u>: maybe this was patched a minute ago?
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   <br> [bp/r52438][FIX] Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient
   BusMaster: refizul, how can I check the bug report/commit message for that patch? I am playing around and noticed that the error happens only when certain parts of the form are selected.
   Tiki-KGB: 03nkoth r52440 10branches/13.x/lib/messu/messulib.php
   <br> [FIX]refix r52438 Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient (backport one was correct)
   BusMaster: also, is there something funny going on with the tiki DNS? I can't access/ping dev.tiki.org or info.tiki.org
   <br> correction, make that just dev.tiki.org
   Tiki-KGB: 03nkoth r52441 10branches/13.x/lib/messu/messulib.php * [FIX] More robustness for missing sender email in r52438/9
   <br> 03nkoth r52442 10branches/12.x/lib/messu/messulib.php * [bp/r52441][FIX] More robustness for missing sender email in r52438/9
   nelsonko: yes, there was a dns switch this morning
   <br> if only dev, and not info is not working for you, perhaps all you need to do is to flush your dns cache
   refizul: Tiki DNS is moving
   <br> <u>BusMaster</u>: did you install from SVN?
   BusMaster: refizul, I installed from a tarball
   <br> so I have determined that the problem occurs only when I click "User must change password at next login"
   <br> how do I get the latest patches (assuming they'll solve my issue?)
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   refizul: you can install fron svn repo
   XGuarden: Bonjours
   refizul: hello XGuarden
   <br> <u>BusMaster</u>: https://dev.tiki.org/Get+code
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   BusMaster: refizul, I have already installed from the tarball and tweaked things for two days.. do I need to clean up all that and re-install from svn??
   refizul: <u>BusMaster</u>: did you change the php code?
   BusMaster: refizul, no.. just some templates.. and added users and things
   <br> things==wiki pages
   refizul: the pages are in the database
   <br> no problem
   BusMaster: refizul, so how should I proceed?
   nelsonko: well, some templates are edited
   <br> tpl files presumably
   BusMaster: nelsonko, precisely
   refizul: you can clone the databse and try a parallel svn
   <br> so the old stuff is not altered by the svn
   <br> then you can test whether the problem persists in svn
   BusMaster: refizul, clone? You mean something like: mysqldump db_name | mysql new_db_name ?
   refizul: yes
   <br> 2 Tikis on 2 databases
   <br> or a new empty one for the mail testing
   BusMaster: refizul, okay, but isn't there a place where I can read which bug the latest patch has fixed? If it is clearly something else, then I don't have to bother installing the svn sources
   refizul: <u>BusMaster</u>: at SF there should be a log
   nelsonko: BusMaster, just had a quick look at the code I think this might be an existing bug
   <br> it only happens when you force user to reset his email
   BusMaster: nelsonko, when you say email, you mean password?
   nelsonko: right, password
   BusMaster: nelsonko, yeah, that's exactly what I am experiencing.. and the email that I get (to the wrong address) has text that makes it appear as though the user has himself signed up and the admin is supposed to validate the account
   <br> I am looking at the most recent commits on sf, but being totally useless at understanding php code, it is not immediately clear to me whether the latest commits are fixing this issue
   refizul: archive of list http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/mailman/tikiwiki-cvs/
   BusMaster: nelsonko, http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/52439/  &lt;-- do you think this  fixes the bug?
   fabricius: polom
   XGuarden: I add some wiki on my site =:0)
   fabricius: hi refizul Jyhem_ XGuarden luciash lindonb amette_
   nelsonko: <u>BusMaster</u>: it's unrelated
   <br> I have to try and see if I can reproduce your problem, one sec
   BusMaster: nelsonko, okay
   XGuarden: If I do update of my tiki wiki 13, did that will remove my wiki article?
   BusMaster: XGuarden, shouldn't. the articles should be in the database
   XGuarden: We ask me to update tikiwiki but when i go in tiki wiki admin panel I dont see update request
   nelsonko: <u>BusMaster</u>: could it be it is sending it to both addresses but one of them is not receiving it (in spam box or something)?
   BusMaster: nelsonko, when I look at my smtp mailer log, I see it sending to exactly one recepient (which is the same as the sender address)
   fabricius: <u>XGuarden</u>: remember the issues we found related to wikiLingo recently? Robert said, that he made some commits, which should sort out most of them.
   <br> <u>XGuarden</u>: did you install as download or via SVN?
   XGuarden: I go on admin page on tiki wiki but did't find any update
   <br> usualy admin panel told my that I have an update to do
   nelsonko: <u>BusMaster</u>: ok i get the same problem
   BusMaster: nelsonko, nice! :)
   <br> nelsonko, what happens now. Should a bug be filed? How?
   nelsonko: <u>BugMaster</u>: normally yes in dev.tiki.org, but I happen to want to fix this too
   XGuarden: Im supose to do update via admin panel or somewhere else
   BusMaster: nelsonko, so I guess you will do it? (are you one of the devs?)
   nelsonko: <u>BusMaster</u>: do you have Users can Register set?
   BusMaster: nelsonko, no
   <br> nelsonko, only Force lowercase, Forgot password and Users can change their password
   <br> nelsonko, it's bed time for me. How do I follow up on any progress you make? SF commits?
   nelsonko: yes I have a fix, just check there
   BusMaster: nelsonko, okay.. do you already know whether the fix will be to just a few files? Then I can pull then straight out of the sf commit tree and over-write my existing files. Will save me the bother of doing an entirely new install
   nelsonko: probably just one file or max 2
   BusMaster: sweet.
   <br> nelsonko, thanks a lot. my faith is restored :) Good night.
   nelsonko: gd night
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   <br> [FIX] When creating user in admin panel with both "User must change password at next login" and "Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account" selected, user was not getting validation mail and admin validation mail was sent instead.
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   <br> 03nkoth r52444 10branches/12.x/lib/userslib.php
   <br> [bp/r52243][FIX] When creating user in admin panel with both "User must change password at next login" and "Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account" selected, user was not getting validation mail and admin validation mail was sent instead.