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fabricius	hi thomas_r thomas_r: Tiki does not support markdown by default you need markdown support thomas_r ?	[00:35]
refizul	fabricius: 22:51 thomas_r has quit	[00:39]
fabricius	I see him in the list right hand site ahh that is an error indeed he is not online anymore thx	[00:40]
refizul	this is starnge	[00:41]
fabricius	starnge? what's that?	[00:41]
refizul	this is strange	[00:41]
fabricius	ah gone now - not in the list anymore ... maybe my client had cached or so	[00:41]
fcpb	joined #tikiwiki Can anyone tell me where the icon is for the map markers in TikiWiki 12.2? Currently, it is a red diamond	[00:47]
refizul	can you do a rightclick and isolate the icon in the webbrowser?	[00:54]
fcpb	Will try that didn't think of it thanx!	[00:57]
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refizul	fabricius: look	[01:03]
fabricius	refizul: re ah thomas_r: rehi thomas_r: Tiki does not support Markdown	[01:06]
thomas_r	ah thanks that's sad :(	[01:08]
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Jyhem	well, Tiki has its own markdown language Better, of course ;-)	[01:32]
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olinuxx	joined #tikiwiki bonjour bonsoir hi all	[13:41]
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LordVan	joined #tikiwiki hi is there an easy way to use tikiwiki as photo gallery where I can assign view/edit/tag/.. permissions to users/groups ?	[14:27]
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chibaguy	LordVan, I don't know other than using the gallery permissions. Would it work to have a gallery for each group?	[14:40]
LordVan	hm mostly although it'd be nice to have some photos only visible to individual people but i guess I could work with a group based system just need to assign people to groups instead of groups to galleries	[14:40]
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refizul	polom	[17:43]
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fabricius	polom	[18:10]
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jonnyb	polomarclaporte	[19:08]
marclaporte	polom jonnyb & polom all	[19:12]
jonnyb	Am i imagining it, or isn't there a way (in 12.x) to have rating "stars" on comments? I switch it on (i thought) and all i get is a single radio button and a "rate" button (not really what the client is expecting ;)	[19:13]
marclaporte	The votes on comments are used for http://doc.tiki.org/Karma	[19:15]
LordVan	so anyway about my earlier question about gallery how would it work to set up galleries with group permissions?	[19:20]
jonnyb	hi LordVan - sorry, missed it - you mean file galleries i presume?	[19:21]
LordVan	let me paste from earlier: [14:27] LordVan is there an easy way to use tikiwiki as photo gallery where I can assign view/edit/tag/.. permissions to users/groups ?	[19:22]
jonnyb	yes, file galleries will do that there is (sadly) still an old feature "image galleries" that should have been removed ages ago but no one's made a migration script	[19:23]
LordVan	jonnyb, but file galleries have this file manager like look not a gallery style that i am looking for .. or is there an easy way to do that?	[19:25]
jonnyb	the galleries have a "browse" mode, which is for images it generally needs some CSS work to get it to look nice though	[19:26]
LordVan	ok are there some (freely available) examples?	[19:27]
jonnyb	however, sometimes it's easier to use the filegals to store the photos and use wiki pages with img plugins in to display them	[19:27]
	there should be quite a bit on doc.tiki.org (but it's down for me currently due to a DNS weirdness)	[19:32]
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LordVan	img plugin? you mean something that will automatically insert them into a wiki page? jonnyb, that looks nice yes what i would like to have in addition is just an ability to comment on photos / tag them maybe	[19:44]
jonnyb	i think you can add tags ("freetags"), not sure about comments	[19:49]
LordVan	k well i think i could make do with tags	[19:49]
jonnyb	but you could do all that with trackers	[19:49]
LordVan	trackers again .. ^ ^ taht seems like a complex subject	[19:49]
jonnyb	trackers do everything! :)	[19:50]
LordVan	lol i read a bit but was like .. hmm ok i don't have time for this now ^ ^ anyway regarding gallery i also am considering the one that comes with horde: http://www.horde.org/apps/ansel/screenshots looks nice ^ ^	[19:50]
jonnyb	understandable	[19:51]
LordVan	while i would really like to build my own i simply do not have the time so now i am looking at what tikiwiki, horde,.. have to offer ;) actually i only found the horde one by accident when i was looking for something completely different ;)	[19:51]
jonnyb	i thought horde was a webmail client	[19:52]
LordVan	that was ages ago it is more of a groupware now and they have stuff like galleries and other sthings	[19:52]
jonnyb	if you specifically just want a photo gallery there probably are other, prettier single-task apps out there	[19:52]
LordVan	jonnyb, i know i am still looking i am not against having something that can do more of course i am not entirely happy with my drupal install at the moment either quite a pain to upgrade .. with all the seperate modules,..	[19:53]
jonnyb	but often projects like that tend to creep - can we have a discussion forum, or quizzes or user groups etc etc yes, i've heard that	[19:53]
LordVan	that is definitely a pluspoint of tikiwiki .. one tar.gz/zip file and done ^ ^	[19:54]
jonnyb	Drupal was the last thing i evaluated (years ago) before plunging into tiki, i've heard upgrades are hard...	[19:54]
LordVan	did you look at the screenshots of the horde gallery? that does look like a nice interface .. of course i have no idea if it works exactly for me but the screenshots are pretty and the feature list looks good .. not sure if it all works as i think it does though ;) jonnyb, the only reason i was reluctant about tikiwiki was mysql/mariadb since i personally prefer postgresql	[19:55]
jonnyb	i know what you mean, but have stopped thinking about that sort of thing :)	[19:56]
LordVan	hehe well yes i had looked at the tikifork as wella t some point i think bitweaver was it?	[19:56]
jonnyb	we did try to include postgresql in tiki but it failed, not enough people helping	[19:56]
LordVan	that does support postgresql hm i could definitely do testing/debugging of postgres stuff ^ ^	[19:56]
jonnyb	not sure if bitweaver is still being developed (much) these days	[19:57]
LordVan	no clue their irc was rather quiet last time i lurked that is why i went back to tiki for something again btw	[19:57]
jonnyb	can be rather quiet here too from time to time	[19:57]
LordVan	is there some (easy) way to import drupal blog posts and stuff to tiki? i know	[19:57]
jonnyb	checking the code commits is usually a good indication	[19:57]
LordVan	but if it makes a difference to me if i can get anyone to at least answer me for a whole day or not	[19:58]
jonnyb	tiki has importers from mediawiki and wordpress - but both are a bit old and quite basic	[19:58]
LordVan	I forgot what that page was called taht keeps track of commits on different FOSS projects	[19:58]
jonnyb	so if you can get from drupal to WP maybe..?	[19:58]
LordVan	meh	[19:58]
jonnyb	ohlo?	[19:59]
LordVan	ah that one yes	[19:59]
jonnyb	hmm, not quite - something like that	[19:59]
LordVan	ohloh .. has changed to openhub ;)	[20:00]
jonnyb	aha, not it's https://www.openhub.net :)	[20:00]
LordVan	bitweaver had last commit 2 months ago horde 10 days tiki 13 ;)	[20:01]
jonnyb	coo, we're "very high" activity :)	[20:01]
LordVan	lol i forget they renamed freshmeat.net to freecode ^^	[20:01]
jonnyb	that's just when they last updated	[20:02]
LordVan	well yes i wonder how difficult it would be to get tikiwiki look as nice as that horde gallery ^ ^	[20:02]
jonnyb	unusual for tiki nothing today, but i did a few yesterday wonder if luciash is about (he makes tikis look nice!)	[20:03]
LordVan	hehe hm most photo gallery stuff on freecode seems to be not very much maintained the thing is while there are a lot of photo gallery web based solutions not many seem to have things like permissions and i do not want to post all photos publically I used to do webpages for people but somehow web development started to annoy me -- mindyou that was the time of lots and lots of browser incompatibilities (just about when javascript started)	[20:05]
jonnyb	a while back then htrml5 and jquery makes it all much easier than the old days	[20:12]
LordVan	yeah i am talking ~ 2000 ;) would drive you nuts to get just about anything just look the same in IE and netscape never mind opera ^ ^	[20:15]
jonnyb	i never had (minded Opera ;) ) never had a client willing to pay for debugging for it	[20:15]
LordVan	haha i had to get things to work on IE 3, IE4 - later IE5 and a few netscape versions o.o oh also different versions of IE 5.x sometimes makes you want to switch profession ;)	[20:16]
jonnyb	IE is still a challenge sometimes (of course)	[20:17]
LordVan	IE is always a pain ^ ^	[20:18]
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Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52436 10branches/13.x/tiki-contact.php [FIX] When priority field is hidden, there should be still a default valid priority set 03nkoth r52437 10branches/12.x/tiki-contact.php [bp/r52436][FIX] When priority field is hidden, there should be still a default valid priority set	[21:18]
olinuxx	bonsoir see you all	[21:32]
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BusMaster	joined #tikiwiki I just setup a new tiki 13. When I create a user and check the box 'Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account.', the mail does NOT go to the user's email address. It goes to the 'sender email' as entered in the General Preferences. (the address FROM which the email should appear to originate)	[22:10]
Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52438 10branches/ 1013.x/lib/messu/messulib.php 1013.x/tiki-contact.php * [FIX] Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient	[22:18]
refizul	BusMaster: maybe this was patched a minute ago?	[22:18]
Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52439 10branches/ 1012.x/tiki-contact.php 1012.x/lib/messu/messulib.php [bp/r52438][FIX] Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient	[22:20]
BusMaster	refizul, how can I check the bug report/commit message for that patch? I am playing around and noticed that the error happens only when certain parts of the form are selected.	[22:21]
Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52440 10branches/13.x/lib/messu/messulib.php [FIX]refix r52438 Notification emails no longer going out to contact form recipient (backport one was correct)	[22:22]
BusMaster	also, is there something funny going on with the tiki DNS? I can't access/ping dev.tiki.org or info.tiki.org correction, make that just dev.tiki.org	[22:24]
Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52441 10branches/13.x/lib/messu/messulib.php * [FIX] More robustness for missing sender email in r52438/9 03nkoth r52442 10branches/12.x/lib/messu/messulib.php * [bp/r52441][FIX] More robustness for missing sender email in r52438/9	[22:26]
nelsonko	yes, there was a dns switch this morning if only dev, and not info is not working for you, perhaps all you need to do is to flush your dns cache	[22:26]
refizul	Tiki DNS is moving BusMaster: did you install from SVN?	[22:27]
BusMaster	refizul, I installed from a tarball so I have determined that the problem occurs only when I click "User must change password at next login" how do I get the latest patches (assuming they'll solve my issue?)	[22:29]
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refizul	you can install fron svn repo	[22:30]
XGuarden	Bonjours	[22:30]
refizul	hello XGuarden BusMaster: https://dev.tiki.org/Get+code	[22:30]
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BusMaster	refizul, I have already installed from the tarball and tweaked things for two days.. do I need to clean up all that and re-install from svn??	[22:32]
refizul	BusMaster: did you change the php code?	[22:32]
BusMaster	refizul, no.. just some templates.. and added users and things things==wiki pages	[22:33]
refizul	the pages are in the database no problem	[22:33]
BusMaster	refizul, so how should I proceed?	[22:34]
nelsonko	well, some templates are edited tpl files presumably	[22:34]
BusMaster	nelsonko, precisely	[22:34]
refizul	you can clone the databse and try a parallel svn so the old stuff is not altered by the svn then you can test whether the problem persists in svn	[22:34]
BusMaster	refizul, clone? You mean something like: mysqldump db_name \| mysql new_db_name ?	[22:35]
refizul	yes 2 Tikis on 2 databases or a new empty one for the mail testing	[22:35]
BusMaster	refizul, okay, but isn't there a place where I can read which bug the latest patch has fixed? If it is clearly something else, then I don't have to bother installing the svn sources	[22:36]
refizul	BusMaster: at SF there should be a log	[22:36]
nelsonko	BusMaster, just had a quick look at the code I think this might be an existing bug it only happens when you force user to reset his email	[22:39]
BusMaster	nelsonko, when you say email, you mean password?	[22:40]
nelsonko	right, password	[22:40]
BusMaster	nelsonko, yeah, that's exactly what I am experiencing.. and the email that I get (to the wrong address) has text that makes it appear as though the user has himself signed up and the admin is supposed to validate the account I am looking at the most recent commits on sf, but being totally useless at understanding php code, it is not immediately clear to me whether the latest commits are fixing this issue	[22:40]
refizul	archive of list http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/mailman/tikiwiki-cvs/	[22:42]
BusMaster	nelsonko, http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/52439/ <-- do you think this fixes the bug?	[22:44]
fabricius	polom	[22:45]
XGuarden	I add some wiki on my site =:0)	[22:45]
fabricius	hi refizul Jyhem_ XGuarden luciash lindonb amette_	[22:46]
nelsonko	BusMaster: it's unrelated I have to try and see if I can reproduce your problem, one sec	[22:46]
BusMaster	nelsonko, okay	[22:47]
XGuarden	If I do update of my tiki wiki 13, did that will remove my wiki article?	[22:48]
BusMaster	XGuarden, shouldn't. the articles should be in the database	[22:48]
XGuarden	We ask me to update tikiwiki but when i go in tiki wiki admin panel I dont see update request	[22:49]
nelsonko	BusMaster: could it be it is sending it to both addresses but one of them is not receiving it (in spam box or something)?	[22:50]
BusMaster	nelsonko, when I look at my smtp mailer log, I see it sending to exactly one recepient (which is the same as the sender address)	[22:51]
fabricius	XGuarden: remember the issues we found related to wikiLingo recently? Robert said, that he made some commits, which should sort out most of them. XGuarden: did you install as download or via SVN?	[22:51]
XGuarden	I go on admin page on tiki wiki but did't find any update usualy admin panel told my that I have an update to do	[22:52]
nelsonko	BusMaster: ok i get the same problem	[22:53]
BusMaster	nelsonko, nice! :) nelsonko, what happens now. Should a bug be filed? How?	[22:53]
nelsonko	BugMaster: normally yes in dev.tiki.org, but I happen to want to fix this too	[22:56]
XGuarden	Im supose to do update via admin panel or somewhere else	[22:57]
BusMaster	nelsonko, so I guess you will do it? (are you one of the devs?)	[22:57]
nelsonko	BusMaster: do you have Users can Register set?	[23:04]
BusMaster	nelsonko, no nelsonko, only Force lowercase, Forgot password and Users can change their password	[23:04]
	nelsonko, it's bed time for me. How do I follow up on any progress you make? SF commits?	[23:15]
nelsonko	yes I have a fix, just check there	[23:15]
BusMaster	nelsonko, okay.. do you already know whether the fix will be to just a few files? Then I can pull then straight out of the sf commit tree and over-write my existing files. Will save me the bother of doing an entirely new install	[23:17]
nelsonko	probably just one file or max 2	[23:17]
BusMaster	sweet. nelsonko, thanks a lot. my faith is restored :) Good night.	[23:18]
nelsonko	gd night	[23:18]
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Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r52443 10branches/13.x/lib/userslib.php [FIX] When creating user in admin panel with both "User must change password at next login" and "Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account" selected, user was not getting validation mail and admin validation mail was sent instead. -This line, and those below, will be ignored-- M lib/userslib.php 03nkoth r52444 10branches/12.x/lib/userslib.php [bp/r52243][FIX] When creating user in admin panel with both "User must change password at next login" and "Send an email to the user in order to allow him to validate his account" selected, user was not getting validation mail and admin validation mail was sent instead.	[23:40]

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