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luciashchibaguy: hi gary [15:49]
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hi xavi - long time no (IR) see :)
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yes jonny :-)
I'm at work already, first day I re-use irc from behind the work proxy, etc. after more than a year with no connection from here....
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jonnybnice, well done [16:00]
xavithks :-)
unluckily, much less time for tiki at work...
we are still using Tiki9, and I don't see any time in the next future to upgrade to Tiki12 at least... (maybe in the next months...)
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chibaguyhi luciash. sorry, was in the shower. [16:01]
jonnybshame [16:01]
chibaguyhi jonnyb and xavi. [16:01]
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so, chibaguy and luciash (and anyone else) - if we are to have theme options (theme_active_option pref?) - how should it work?
maybe it's on a wiki pages somewhere already?
jonnyb reads http://themes.tiki.org/How+To+Add+a+New+Theme
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chibaguyjonnyb, I don't know. As I understand it, LP doesn't like having multiple files for a theme. Maybe kind of a unilateral decision to get rid of the old system. [16:25]
jonnybbut that's what the C stands for, i thought? [16:26]
chibaguyC? [16:26]
jonnybCascading? [16:26]
chibaguyah [16:26]
jonnybbut maybe with LESS there's no point in that? [16:27]
chibaguyWell, for anyone using Less and variables to make themes, it's really just as easy to do another full theme than to make a parent theme and an option. [16:27]
jonnybi still can't compile LESS properly :( [16:27]
luciashI wonder why should not we have theme options ? [16:27]
chibaguyOr to make an option for a theme, rather. [16:27]
luciashahh, those less guys
:)
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chibaguyI think options are useful for people who don't want to use variables. [16:28]
jonnybindeed - seems like madness to duplicate the entire css if you just want to change a few colours [16:28]
chibaguyand just want to overwrite some rules. [16:28]
luciashyep [16:28]
jonnybhaving to use LESS does make it quite a bit harder to contribute [16:29]
luciashit is also more work when something changes in main theme, you need to recompile option ?
is there some technical difficulty to continue to use the option system we had till now ?
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chibaguyWell, maybe so, if the option touches the changed part. [16:30]
jonnybpresumably [16:30]
chibaguyaccording to LP [16:30]
jonnybyes, luciash - the themes have been implemented as a totally separate new system [16:30]
luciashthat kinda sucks [16:30]
chibaguyWhat I did for the fivealive options in trunk is just put an import statement at the top, to get the main theme file.
kludgy but it works.
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luciashah, so no problem then ? [16:31]
jonnybso the option files are just the changed bits? [16:31]
chibaguybut for the time being anyway, the url has to be input in the custom theme file text field to select the theme.
yes
as before.
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luciashwhat is the problem then ? the options do not appear in the dropdowns ?
sorry i seem to be far off
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chibaguyright [16:32]
jonnybtotally different dropdowns
the styles dir has gone from trunk
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luciashi know but i presumed the options will be just moved from styles/Foo/options/ to themes/Foo/options/ [16:33]
jonnybnope, sadly not [16:34]
chibaguyit seems the new themes directory mirrors the bootstrap directories, with themes/mytheme/css/tiki.css and themes/mytheme/less/tiki.less [16:34]
luciashwhere are they supposed to be then ? [16:34]
chibaguyI think you're right about themes/Foo/options/(probably then css/tiki.css).
According to Torsten, LP has an idea about options implementation but I don't know what it is.
Obviously it'd be good to know.
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jonnybpreferably before we release 14 :) [16:36]
chibaguy(that is, themes/Foo/options/Optionname/css/tiki.css)
yeah, preferably. ;-)
jonny, would you like to skype or email LP?
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jonnybok, will do [16:38]
chibaguythanks. [16:39]
jonnybi agree on the suggested files layout, should support themes/Foo/options/Optionname/templates/credits.tpl etc
maybe also fints etc?
fonts
i'll mail the devlist, don't think LP is on the arty one
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luciashyes, +10 [16:40]
chibaguyright
Currently each theme folder contains css, fonts, icons, images, less, and templates subdirectories.
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luciashsounds good [16:43]
jonnybright - how does that fit in with the new iconset thing? i don't quite see why we have icons per theme and other ones with a pref (or do we?) [16:43]
chibaguyyeah, I don't know. Seems like icon overkill.
I think it was two separate initiatives.
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luciashiconset does not install in themes/Foo/icons/ ? [16:44]
chibaguyNo, it's more global, it's in themes/iconsets/ [16:44]
luciashI see [16:45]
chibaguythe theme and the icon set are each configurable separately.
(as things are now)
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luciashcan a theme then override global iconset ?
(could/should ?)
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chibaguyProbably it should be able to. I don't think the implementing has gotten that far yet. gezza is working on it. [16:46]
Tiki-KGB03jyhem r52745 10branches/13.x/templates/admin/include_login.tpl * [FIX] Restore fold/unfold of preferences which depend on registerPasscode
03jyhem r52746 10trunk/templates/admin/include_login.tpl
[FIX][bp/r52745] Restore fold/unfold of preferences which depend on registerPasscode
03jyhem r52747 10branches/12.x/templates/admin/include_login.tpl
[FIX][bp/r52745] Restore fold/unfold of preferences which depend on registerPasscode
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chibaguyIf you have ideas or suggestions, etc. please edit dev.tiki.org/Icons :-)
or post on the dev list
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jonnybok, have sent an email to the dev list re: options
hope it's ok :)
by the way, is http://themes.tiki.org supposed to be using tikinewt them?
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luciasheh, nope, weird [17:11]
jonnyb:P [17:12]
luciashi would expect fivealive-lite grape iirc [17:13]
jonnybme2 [17:14]
chibaguyheh, I wonder if I did that. I'll switch it back anyway.
Time to sleep here.
g'night.
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jonnybnite nite, chibaguy [17:22]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r52748 10trunk/lib/core/Services/Payment/Controller.php
[ENH] payments: Add a new action to add mulitple items to a cart (used in custom code only so far)
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r52749 10branches/ 1012.x 1012.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php
Various forum fixes from 13.x - part 3 (process_inbound_mail fixes 1)
[bp/r52693][FIX] forums: Several fixes and improvements for process_inbound_mail for forums (was quite broken).
Use the html part if there's no text part available, and use the root 'body' section as a last resort (it's usually the source)
Ignore error report emails (needs more testing and possibly logging)
Try and find the message referred to in in-reply-to and use that topic if there is one
Also some code tidying and comments added
[bp/r52694][FIX] forums: Restore mail in operation for feature_wiki_discuss.
Had been totally commented out as there was no feature or page_exists check - added them.
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r52750 10branches/ 1012.x/templates/admin/include_forums.tpl 1012.x 1012.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php 1012.x/lib/prefs/forum.php
Various forum fixes from 13.x - part 4 (process formatted mails)
[bp/r52714][ENH] forums: If using WYSIWYG use the html part in process_inbound_mail if available. Needs to be purified (before parsing to wiki if wysiwyg_htmltowiki) as email html can be messy
[bp/r52733][FIX] forums: Make the recently added "parse html in incoming forum emails" optional with a new pref, as it often cannot cope with complicated table based html emails.
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r52751 10branches/ 1012.x 1012.x/templates/tiki-view_forum.tpl
Various forum fixes from 13.x - part 5 (avatars)
[bp/r52741][FIX] forums: Use modifier avarize as tiki-show_user_avatar.php is buggy and doesn't support static avatars
[bp/r52742][FIX] forums: Use modifier avarize as tiki-show_user_avatar.php is buggy and doesn't support static avatars (missed some)
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anyone playing with Tiki on cloudy platforms ?
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Tiki-KGB03jyhem r52752 10trunk/ 10lib/setup/absolute_urls.php 10lib/prefs/feature.php 10templates/admin/include_general.tpl * [FIX] Make it (r52330) optionnal [22:52]
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