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[01:04] mapguy Hi
[01:05] mapguy I am trying to use openlayers mapping
[01:05] mapguy and cannot figure out how to dispaly a map on a wiki page
[01:06] mapguy is this the right place for help?
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[10:12] Tolga Hello everone
[10:13] Tolga tikiwiki 13 is awesome thank you all...
[10:14] Tolga bye
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[14:57] Jyhem Polom
[15:14] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52916 10branches/13.x/ 10tiki-edit_banner.php 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl
[15:14] Tiki-KGB [FIX] This waste of resources was creating a timeout on sites with hundreds of users when trying to edit banners
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[15:34] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52917 10trunk/ 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl 10tiki-edit_banner.php
[15:34] Tiki-KGB [FIX][bp/r52916] This waste of resources was creating a timeout on sites with hundreds of users when trying to edit banners
[15:36] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52918 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl 10tiki-edit_banner.php
[15:36] Tiki-KGB [FIX][bp/r52916] This waste of resources was creating a timeout on sites with hundreds of users when trying to edit banners
[15:58] XGuarden lol
[16:14] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52919 10branches/13.x/ 10tiki-edit_banner.php 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl
[16:14] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Enhances on r52916 by avoiding the user-unfriendly huge drop-down, and improves time to display the page
[16:22] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52920 10trunk/ 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl 10tiki-edit_banner.php
[16:22] Tiki-KGB [FIX][bp/r52919] Enhances on r52916 by avoiding the user-unfriendly huge drop-down, and improves time to display the page. Thanks Jonny
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[16:35] math_ hello
[16:37] math_ how do I increase the font size of the letter in an article?
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[17:04] Jyhem hi math_, in wysiwyg, you can do that, but in wiki syntax, there is no way of increasing the font size of the letter
[17:05] Jyhem maybe you can use some elaborate tricks with plugins such as DIV and classes and CSS, etc
[17:06] panamaus seems like a basic attribute such as text size ought to have some control via markup
[17:07] panamaus maybe it's not sexy, but that would be a huge value add as far as new features go
[17:08] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r52921 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/tiki-edit_banner.tpl 10tiki-edit_banner.php
[17:08] Tiki-KGB [FIX][bp/r52919] Enhances on r52916 by avoiding the user-unfriendly huge drop-down, and improves time to display the page. Thanks Jonny
[17:08] panamaus for some users, at least
[17:20] Jyhem panamaus, math_: I found something: you can go to Admin → Admin Home → Editing and Plugins → Plugins → search for "font", activate it.
[17:20] Jyhem The font plugin has a "size" option
[17:21] Jyhem maybe some clear/cache required after activating the plugin
[17:27] panamaus still considered "experimental". hmm.
[17:28] panamaus in 9.x at least
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[18:14] math_ thank you so much Jyhem
[18:47] Jyhem No problem, you are welcome
[19:02] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r52922 10branches/13.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-maps.js
[19:02] Tiki-KGB [FIX] maps: When locating tracker items with the status showing, the icon wasn't getting found - does now
[19:04] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r52923 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-maps.js 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/13.x 52914 to 52922
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[19:06] Tiki-KGB [bp/r52922][FIX] maps: When locating tracker items with the status showing, the icon wasn't getting found - does now
[19:37] gour Jyhem: hiya, just to inform you that i still fight with my reverse-proxy setup. i'm also in contact with hiawatha dev...so, when i resolve it, i'll continue with tiki. was also playing with i18n, but the servrer broken a bit
[20:26] Jyhem_laptop gour: have you ever sent me the last version of your patch ?
[20:27] Jyhem_laptop I may have a chance to test tomorrow
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[21:00] gour Jyhem_laptop: r52330 is, i believe everything what is required. the rest is my buggy reverse-proxy. i'll tomorrow to find at another provider to confirm it
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[21:12] pete_ hello. not sure if this is the right place, but... we just upgraded tiki from v5.0 to v12.2 and tiki is no longer outputting valid xhtml. instead it's outputting invalid and malformed html5
[21:12] pete_ is there anyway to revert to a strict xhtml output?
[21:12] pete_ a setting perhaps?
[21:23] arildb hi pete_ I am not sure what problem may be, nor have I tried a "large jump" upgrade.... but what exactly is going wrong? ... did you do a backup before the upgrade?
[21:28] pete_ hello arildb. the overall problem is that we use the "html pages" feature to drive another in-house tool
[21:29] pete_ the other in-house tool requires strict xhtml output because it parses it into xml so it can use an xpath query to target the content of the page
[21:29] pete_ currently, the in-house tool cannot do that because invalid/malformed html5 cannot be parsed to xml
[21:30] arildb pete_: "html pages" feature..hm-m-m. Do you mean wiki pages in HTML format?
[21:31] pete_ no.
[21:31] pete_ wikiname/tiki-admin_html_pages.php
[21:31] pete_ that's the path we use to create and edit them
[21:31] pete_ our navigation fly-out menu is Admin \ HTML Pages
[21:33] pete_ the setting in the admin control panel
[21:33] pete_ is admin \ features
[21:33] arildb right...I am not familiar with that one
[21:33] pete_ under "Additional" and is just a checkbox for "HTML Pages"
[21:35] arildb Did you investigate what the actual error(s) are? ..using an HTML syntax checker
[21:36] pete_ yes
[21:36] pete_ using validator.w3.org
[21:36] pete_ but even without using that, it's clear where the problems are
[21:37] pete_ mostly that <link> and <meta> elements need to be made self-closing
[21:39] pete_ there's also:
[21:39] pete_ "Bad value .siteloginbar_poppedup for attribute rel on element a"
[21:39] pete_ "End tag li seen, but there were open elements."
[21:40] pete_ "Unclosed element form."
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[21:40] pete_ also, my it guy just got back to me, yes we backed up prior to upgrade
[21:41] arildb That's good. Specific problems. Tiki now has "show" installations, where you can demonstrate the bug. This makes it much easier to understand and fix the bugs. You can access the show instance when filing a bug report
[21:42] arildb I have personally never used this feature...nor was I aware of it :)
[21:42] pete_ dunno if it would qualify as a bug... other than the html5 being invalid
[21:42] pete_ htm5 is allowed to be malformed
[21:42] pete_ but that makes it unparseable for xml
[21:43] arildb On http://doc.tiki.org/HTML+Pages it says "HTML pages should adhere to XHTML Validation, since Tiki's final output is XHTML. "...so probably a bug
[21:44] arildb You can file a bug report at http://dev.tiki.org
[21:44] pete_ yeah, I saw that... but I have no idea what version of tiki that is for... also that page was last modified on Sunday 25 April, 2010
[21:44] pete_ so, probably not applicable
[21:44] pete_ anymore
[21:45] pete_ ok, I'll try filing the bug report
[21:45] pete_ thanks for the link
[21:46] arildb good luck
[21:47] pete_ ultimately, I'll probably wind up recoding a work-around for our in-house tool so that it doesn't rely on xml output, but instead gets the content directly from the tiki mysql db or parses it as html and grabs it using something besides an xpath query
[21:47] pete_ thanks for the help
[21:47] arildb np
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[22:10] fabricius polom
[22:12] fabricius arildb, pete_ still here?
[22:12] arildb I am here
[22:13] fabricius I have seen your hint to pete_ to uses show
[22:13] pete_ still here
[22:14] arildb fabricius: fyi: pete_ listed specific problems before you logged in. If you check the log you should see his comments
[22:14] fabricius I just recent wanted to show a bug on show and then had to realise, that I had no bug ... then deconfigured my collaboration installation and finally could find the cause ... some part of the history of a wiki pagre ... I belive I would still search and be going mental whithout show
[22:15] fabricius arildb: is the log already stored somewhere, or is the an irc command?
[22:16] fabricius I mean arildb, I know the long old logs from previous days
[22:16] fabricius but the actual one from minutes or an hour ago?
[22:17] arildb fabricius: check http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2014-10-22,Wed
[22:17] fabricius thx arils
[22:17] fabricius thx arild
[22:17] fabricius thx arildb
[22:17] fabricius sry
[22:17] arildb :)
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[22:22] fabricius pete_: I have been at a transition (to Tiki) workshop in last August and there was mentioned aswell some HTML validation issue
[22:23] fabricius I am not 100% sure, but isn't the output mainly a thing of the templates pete_ , arildb ?
[22:24] fabricius there is a major overhaul of the template system after Tiki 12 - over 13 and 14 to 15
[22:25] fabricius pete_: would you have the opportunity to testupgrade a copy of your site to Tiki trunk (pre-14) and test the html validation there?
[22:25] pete_ dunno, I could ask our it dept, but they've gone home for the day
[22:25] pete_ I'm dl'ing a copy of 12.2 now
[22:25] arildb fabricius: "End tag li seen, but there were open elements." .... my guess is that this is PHP generated HTML. Also not sure. pete_ is upgrading to Tiki 12.2. So, not affected by the template changes in Tiki 13+
[22:26] pete_ the templates are the .tpl files, right?
[22:26] arildb yes
[22:26] fabricius yes pete_
[22:26] pete_ any idea which ones the html pages use?
[22:28] fabricius arildb, pete_ : I though about that maybe templates in 12 could cause validation errors and then the changed templates in 13 and trunk might not (or others) .... and would be a good feedback for the templaters, if we got to know, that templates might need fix
[22:29] fabricius pete_: no, but afaik this feature is depricated anyway and only in Tiki for compatibility reason ... ever thought about using wiki pages with HTML plugin? or is this not possible in you specific use case?
[22:31] arildb pete_: I did a search in the code.... (more coming)
[22:32] arildb probably relevant files are: tiki-page.php tiki-page_loader.php lib/htmlpages/htmlpageslig.php tiki-page.tpl
[22:32] arildb There were also hits in several admin pages, which may/may not be relevant
[22:33] arildb btw. my search was for html_pages
[22:38] pete_ I'm checking through some of these now...
[22:38] pete_ thanks again
[22:40] arildb fabricius: I have never known of the "HTML pages" until now. However, it is not marked as depreciated
[22:41] arildb Though it is marked as "experimental"
[22:42] fabricius sure?
[22:42] arildb I just checked in Tiki13
[22:46] fabricius so maybe the deprication was depricated .. I just read the do.t.o/HTML+Pages ... fine though
[22:46] gour fabricius: i18n.org is still broken. who would be the one capable to fix it?
[22:47] fabricius humm ... the Infrastructure Team should know or Rodrigo .. no feedback up to now
[22:47] fabricius Jyhem Jyhem_laptop ping
[22:50] arildb fabricius: maybe there is no such thing as a depreciated marker for features
[22:51] fabricius arildb: maybe I was just wrong ... remembering s.th. else ... the feature seems to be useful for certain use cases
[22:55] fabricius gour: did we already reproduce on show?
[22:55] gour fabricius: ?
[22:56] fabricius the translation bug
[22:56] fabricius i18n
[22:56] gour fabricius: well, i'm still seeing it and reported to the ml
[22:56] fabricius anyway .. I think I already mentioned, that locally it works fine
[22:57] fabricius I have to mail Rodrigo
[22:57] gour ok
[23:02] fabricius did we ever clear the cache?
[23:02] arildb I am off. See you later
[23:08] fabricius done
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