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[10:37] gour fabricius: hiya, now i've noticed (after receiving mail from my translation-friend)  that e.g. lang/hr/language.php has only translated stuff, while i was expecting to have complete one holding both translated and untranslated stuff? the question is where or how to get the rest?
[10:40] gour does it mean one has to merge it manually with the e.g. en-uk? 'en' is practically empty?
[10:57] fabricius hi gour, take lang/de/language.php and use the english side, replacing the german strings (right side) to hr and merge the result to lang/hr/language.php
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[11:45] Jenser 00hi there. i just updated my tiki from 9lts to 12lts, hoping that the search now works for "tracker comments". unfortunately, it doesn't seem so. is there a way to simply "enable" this? did i oversee a setting for this? thanks in advance01
[12:10] gour fabricius: i was considering to merge it with en-uk. isn't it easier?
[12:15] gour in any case it looks more complicated than it should be if the language.hr would be completed and simply hold untranslated string with the default (English) terms
[12:18] fabricius gour: I just suggested a workaround for the case that English original is mainly empty ... German is the most translated language in Tiki (even before French) since end of 2010 and thus I assume you will find most relevant strings in that file.
[12:19] gour fabricius: but en-uk is, i assume, fairly, complete, right?
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[12:19] fabricius gour: Rodrigo did answerr my e-mail - sadly he is not anymore maintaining i18n.t.o and thus I must find somebody else - anyway he said, in emergency case and if we did not find anybody, he tried to help to sort the problem.
[12:19] gour fabricius: still, i wonder, why every language file does not contain all the string, both translated and untranslated?
[12:21] gour fabricius: ok, i'll probably submit for linode today and eventually migrate there
[12:21] fabricius gour: I have no idea about en-uk - it is a variant of en and I would be surprised if it would be any complete in respect of a full list of relevant Tiki strings - do what you want, but I really think, that de gives you the maximum available amount of English Tiki strings - mind that the left column always is English and that you can just ignore the German strings
[12:22] gour whenever i encountered some translation project, the non-english file contained all the strings
[12:22] gour fabricius: still, how is it that there is no 'en' original' available?
[12:23] fabricius maybe there would be needed a different structure, or some maintaining responsibility by some community member like .... you?
[12:24] fabricius gour: easy to answer: the fast release - every 1/2 year a new version with a lot of new features and some changes - then not many people maintaining "their" language ... I'd like to get this better, but we would need the people, the voluntaries for that.
[12:24] gour hmm...i assume that it should be possible to simply generate original 'en' file based on the strings used, without any maintenance
[12:25] fabricius I cannot sort such approach alone - maybe assist with some coordination or help newbies, but I cannot do all by myself
[12:26] fabricius gour: if you want to get on this "simply generate original 'en' file based on the strings used" you are welcome to strat off and I would be happy to assist you
[12:26] gour fabricius: the point is that, imho, every non-english language should have all vanilla English strings and then, as it is getting translated, those should be replaced with the translated ones
[12:26] fabricius sure!
[12:27] fabricius would make things easier
[12:27] gour fabricius: if e.g. croatian is not translated full, how does Tiki behave? show empty strings instead?
[12:27] gour i assume not...it fills it with English ones, right?
[12:28] gour fabricius: shall i post to the devel list?
[12:28] fabricius no - for non-translated string Tiki always show the original English strings from the templates
[12:28] gour so, why not having the same in language-php?
[12:29] fabricius The translatable strings are "marked" in the templates (.tpl files) by wrapping them in tr tags: {tr}translatable string {/tr}
[12:29] gour that's clear and natural
[12:30] gour the point is, every language.php should be complete, either with full translation or by mixin of (un)translated strings, not to be crippled by having only translated ones
[12:30] fabricius how you would get all those strings into one "base file" with a reasonable effort
[12:31] gour well, it is how it should start, imho
[12:31] gour tiki is the first project which does it differently which i did encounter so far :-)
[12:32] gour i'll post about it to the devel list
[12:48] gour fabricius: posted
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[13:00] Jenser has anyone an idea how to enable search for "tracker comments"?
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[15:29] math_ Hi guys
[15:30] math_ como instalar uma categoria?
[15:30] math_ Podem me ajudar?
[15:30] math_ please
[15:40] fabricius hi math_ , do you understand english?
[15:41] fabricius math_ go to yourdomain.com/tiki-admin_categories.php?parentId=0
[15:42] fabricius scroll down and "Add new category" with the "Add new category" form
[15:44] fabricius or http://tiki.org/forums
[15:44] fabricius Català => http://tiki.org/forum16
[15:44] fabricius Castellano /  Español => http://tiki.org/forum15
[15:45] fabricius Português => http://tiki.org/forum9
[15:46] fabricius No hablo español, català, português
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[16:46] math_ fabricius, I do not understand
[16:50] fabricius math_: ? hablas Español o Català o Português ?
[16:52] fabricius ahh tranlate.google.com <=> hablas Português
[16:54] fabricius Você fala português
[16:55] fabricius math_ se você não entende Inglês, utilize adicionalmente o fórum idioma Português
[16:56] fabricius math_: instalar uma categoria: ir para yourdomain.com/tiki-admin_categories.php?parentId=0 ... role a página e em "Adicionar nova categoria" com a forma "Adicionar nova categoria"
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