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Tiki-KGB03lindonb r53478 10trunk/templates/tiki-admin_forums.tpl * [ENH] forum: Use iconsets on tiki-admin_forums.php
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gilleshello [13:08]
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gilleswhat is the best way to makle my own css with the new Style in TW ? [13:09]
chibaguygilles, Tiki now uses Bootstrap CSS Framework classes, etc., for layout (grid) and page elements, so new Tiki theme style sheets need to basically be a bootstrap.css equivalent (but with your own color and other style information).
New docs are coming soon. (I promise. ;-) )
There are basically two groups of rules for new Tiki themes. One group is the bootstrap.css equivalent. The second covers things that are outside of Bootstrap, that are "legacy" or unique Tiki things.
If you look in styles/(Some_theme)/less/tiki-selectors.less, you can see some CSS used by that particular theme, that's in addition to the Bootstrap rules.
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gillesok [13:25]
chibaguySo these two groups of rules should be combined some way as the theme stylesheet.
The themes in the Tiki package used Less pre-compiler to put these together, but you can just write CSS directly if you want.
You could try going to getbootstrap.css and to the "customize" link to make a CSS file with your color values, etc.
Then add more rules as needed by the theme.
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gillesI will try to write a CSS with an URL [13:27]
chibaguyFor your site to use? [13:28]
gillesyes [13:42]
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chibaguyI wonder why registration with pretty tracker complains about empty captcha values even after I turned off captcha and cleared caches.
... at tiki-register.php. And why the captcha form continues to display in my pretty tracker wiki page.
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chibaguyIs it impossible to turn off captcha for Tiki registrations? [15:06]
Ok, seems to be a site-specific problem for me. [15:16]
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ih gezza here too - i was thinking maybe if we do some of this chat about themes in irc others might help? :D
we've been chatting about changing the css filenaming convention back to pre-14 style, as discussed here https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki14#Less_and_CSS_naming_convention - looks like most people are up for it...
last chance to vote coming soon! :)
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gezzachanging the names requires both code changes (lib/setup/theme.php, tiki-tc.php plus a few other places) and the renaming of all less and css files in the bundled themes [15:44]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r53480 10branches/experimental/tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php
[FIX] themes: Fall back to the default theme if the selected one is not found (thanks gezza)
Unfortunately the current default, called "default" as set in lib/prefs/theme.php:38 is horrible - TODO, pick a better default theme for Tiki 14 :)
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gezzagary, is it only that the less and css file names need to be changed or is there something else to do for the themes? [15:46]
jonnybgezza: Gary might respond if addressed as "chibaguy" ;) [15:48]
gezzaahh, ok :) [15:48]
jonnybthere might be some otehr renaming to do if the tiki.css files are included in other css/less files i think
afraid i've not been able to compile less files for months :(
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chibaguyhi, just got out of the shower :) [15:50]
jonnybhi clean chibaguy! [15:51]
chibaguyhi jonnyb!
It seems the consensus is to revert to the old way of naming themes, right?
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jonnybyes, seems to be
it was mainly your and luciash's options i was concerned about (Lindon too)
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chibaguyAbout gezza's question, basically, yes, I think just the file names need to be changed.
And PhpStorm can be configured to name them however we like.
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jonnybcoolio - my plan is to do it in the experimental branch so we can play with it a bit, but revert before we merge back (around the end of this week) if suddenly loads of objections appear [15:54]
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chibaguySlightly related, I had a question about the way the theme and options are displayed in the module for selecting. Now there is one select with options like jqui/trontastic, whereas before we had separate selectors. I thought the old way was nicer. [15:55]
jonnybdid that in tiki14_themes yesterday [15:56]
chibaguychibaguy better svn up.
ah, nice.
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jonnybjust fixed a couple of other bits too
next is improving the upgrade patch (so it deals with theme control upgrades) so don't update just yet
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r53481 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/user_prefs.php 10tiki14_themes/templates/modules/mod-switch_theme.tpl
[FIX] themes: Cope with themes that don't have options, and enable user to use no option properly when selected.
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chibaguyWell, I'm going to bed soon, but I'll test anything I can tomorrow related to themes. [16:03]
jonnybyes please, thanks chibaguy ! [16:03]
chibaguysure. thanks for your fixes, etc. [16:05]
gezzajonny: i set up phpstorm a couple of weeks ago to get familiar with less compiling, it was relative easy, this helped o lot: https://dev.tiki.org/Testing+LESS+CSS+with+Tiki [16:05]
chibaguygezza, what operating system are you using? [16:07]
jonnybthank gezza - i really need to get that working again [16:07]
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gezzai have windows8 [16:09]
chibaguyJust asking because for me on Windows it seemed to be pretty easy too, but I think jonnyb is using Mac maybe?
So some differences in the setup.
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jonnybdo you guys use the php less compiler in tiki now? when i last tried that it didn't work
and installing less on mac (sort of bsd unix) seemed weird
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chibaguyNo, jonnyb, as for me, I haven't tried that. Only phpstorm. [16:13]
gezzai only tried phpstorm [16:14]
jonnybso the less compiler is installed inside phpstorm somehow for you? didn't seem to work for me [16:14]
gezzajonny, about r53480: shouldn't $theme_path be initialized in the "else" part for "default"? [16:14]
jonnybha, yes (oops) [16:14]
chibaguyIt works from within phpstorm, but maybe was installed separately. [16:17]
jonnybha ha, gezza - that's why 'default' looked so broken for me! (tested it very badly) [16:19]
gezza:) [16:19]
chibaguygood night, guys. I'll be back in 8 or 10 hours. ;-) [16:21]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r53482 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/theme/themelib.php 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php
[FIX] themes: Fix default fallback properly by actually setting $theme_path (thanks again gezza) and fix get_theme_path to not return non-existent paths (and remove unnecessary null params on get_theme_path calls)
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gezzar53481: one case is not working yet: when you set in switch theme module eg: "fivealive-lite" and option "kiwi", than switch to a theme without options (eg: cosmo), than the option still remains in tiki_user_preferences
when you switch away from cosmo to another theme without option (eg: cerulean), than the pref is removed
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jonnybok, thanks gezza - just doing the upgrade thing now... will try that later [16:38]
gezzaok, bye for now, gotta go [16:45]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r53483 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php 10tiki14_themes/tiki-setup.php
[FIX] themes: Remove the mysterious jquery_ui_chosen_css pref as if jquery_ui_chosen is enabled it really doesn't work at all well without the css file in any setups i can find. Hopefully this was just a Tiki 13 transitional workaround? (let's try without it for a while)
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[FIX] themes: Add missing theme control and group tables corrections (removing the .css parts) and retrospectively fix a previous php patch to cope with updates from before Tiki 13 where theme_active would not be found.
03jonnybradley r53485 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes 10tiki14_themes/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php 10tiki14_themes/lib/core/Table/Settings/TikiViewforum.php 10tiki14_themes/templates/tiki-admin_forums.tpl * [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 53470 to 53479
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03jonnybradley r53486 10trunk/ 10(8 files in 7 dirs)
[KIL] Remove selectmenu feature. It was marked as deprecated in Tiki 11 in favour of Chosen, which is much better (composer change to come)
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[KIL] Remove selectmenu feature. Part 2, composer fix (some odd changes in the lock file, hope it's ok)
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gilleshello how can I center logo in, 13.1 I got firced pull-left style .. [17:43]
pqatsiIts possible to create automatically a menu with the article structure? [17:45]
jonnybhi gilles and pqatsi
centering a logo should be possible, how much css do you know?
i'm not sure what you mean by "article structure" - you can use wiki page structures in menus but nothing else afaik
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pqatsijonnyb: actually menus must have to be manually created here
So if I have something like Main:SomeFolder:SomeArticle
I need to manually create every menu entry
And im asking if i can create it someway automatically
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jonnybsorry, i don't understand - folders of articles? [17:53]
pqatsibetter example:
WorldHistory:War:FirstWar
WorldHistory:War:SecondWar
WorldHistory:War:AfeganistanWar
should create a main menu like:
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jonnybare these categories maybe? [17:58]
pqatsiNop
just things from a same subject
another example
Clients:CompanyA:Servers:Server01
Clients:CompanyA:Servers:Server02
Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server01
Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server02
a way to create automatically - the menu for these entries
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jonnybi just need to know what you mean by "things" [18:00]
pqatsiSo if i create a Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server03 or Clients:CompanyC:Servers:Server01, it create automatically the menu entry for this page
Articles
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jonnybif you mean wiki page structures (see here: http://doc.tiki.org/Structures?structure=HomePage+AdminGuide ) then yes, otherwise, no
i'm not aware that tiki articles work like that, sorry
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pqatsiI'll read this page and try to find if it applies
Thanks!
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jonnybthere's more on Articles here http://doc.tiki.org/Articles [18:05]
pqatsilemmesee [18:16]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r53488 10branches/experimental/tiki14_themes/modules/mod-func-switch_theme.php * [FIX] themes: Remove the custom_url "theme" from the switch theme list [18:18]
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New Forum Posts: 12.x: Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in lib/setup/prefs.php on line 406 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54528
Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5530
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