[00:14] fabricius XGuarden: I do not understand your question: "work for title?"
[00:17] fabricius XGuarden ~np~ !this headline is not parsed and this {wikiplugin parameter="x"} aswell not ~/np~
[00:18] fabricius XGuarden: __this is bold__ ~np~__this is not bold__~/np~
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[12:18] chibaguy The string "Who Looks At Your Stuff?" on tiki-user_information.php should be changed, I think. For one thing, everything else on the page is "my" - "MyTiki", etc. Second, "stuff" is too informal for many sites, I think.
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[12:20] wolfganga Hello
[12:20] chibaguy Hi wolfganga
[12:20] wolfganga I am close to commit a patch for the issue that restricted pages cannot be exported to pdf
[12:21] wolfganga took me 8+ hours so far
[12:22] wolfganga anyone using wkhtml2pdf for pdf export, and can test the patch?
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[13:11] ricks99 polom y'all
[13:34] chibaguy Hi ricks99
[13:35] ricks99 hiya gary
[13:44] luciash pompom
[13:47] fabricius wolod
[13:49] fabricius hi wolfganga ricks99 luciash chibaguy ... nope, I am not using wkhtml2pdf ... but I would be interested. What are the requirements to use it? Afaik this is not a php library and must be installed on the server, so not usable on shared hosting, but on a dedicated root server or VPS or locally (maybe for testing on a local linux mashine?)
[13:51] wolfganga Fabricius - wkhtml2pdf is simply great!
[13:51] fabricius ok. but how that helps me to use it? :)
[13:52] wolfganga Its basically a simple executable that contaisn an entire browser engine
[13:52] fabricius ok
[13:52] wolfganga thats why it is so compatible
[13:52] wolfganga you can use it on linux and windows
[13:52] fabricius good
[13:52] wolfganga simply download and install
[13:53] wolfganga on teh commandline: wkhtml2pdf "www.google.de" test.pdf
[13:53] wolfganga thats all
[13:53] wolfganga or better http://www.goggle.de
[13:53] fabricius would it be possible to install on one VPS somewhere and then use it with several websites on shared hosting on different hosts?
[13:53] wolfganga yes
[13:53] fabricius the projects I am working with are usually on shared hosting
[13:53] wolfganga its like any binary
[13:54] wolfganga you have also onyl one php or one apacahe ^^
[13:54] fabricius ??
[13:54] wolfganga try it on windows - you will love it
[13:54] fabricius I do not use windows
[13:54] wolfganga then even better try it on linux
[13:55] wolfganga you *might* need an updated version though - if your distro is not updated yet
[13:55] wolfganga their website as ready to go packages for ubunto, red hat etc.
[13:56] fabricius my usecase would be to get one vps somewhere and install a wkhtml2pdf there and then use it with Tiki instances on variuos shared hosting ... is THAT possible? if yes, how?
[13:56] wolfganga yes - and there is nothing special
[13:56] wolfganga just add the path in your tiki installation like /usr/bin/wkhtml2pdf or so
[13:58] fabricius But I would not have a wkhtml2pdf on the same machine ... must work with a webadress: http://example.com/wkhtml2pdf
[13:58] wolfganga i have most of the work done - just need to figure out something in the session management of tiki
[13:59] fabricius I cannot install wkhtml2pdf on most hosts where the Tikis are located
[13:59] fabricius so it must work like a webservice or so
[13:59] wolfganga mhh - in this case i guess you would need to provide a sort of webservice for wkhtml2pdf
[14:00] fabricius yes, but how?
[14:00] wolfganga but this would be a different story
[14:00] wolfganga bc i guess would like to have authetication etc.
[14:01] wolfganga so in other words: 1.) write a webservice for wkhtml2pdf, 2.) write a tiki driver in the pdflib to use that service
[14:02] wolfganga the 2nd part will be even more difficult, bc of permissions ( that is the problem right now)
[14:02] wolfganga since wkhtml2pdf acts as a webbrowser, it must use the authentication from the originating user
[14:03] wolfganga ... thats what i am currently implementing.
[14:03] wolfganga .. for LOCAl requests
[14:03] wolfganga initiated from THAT webserver running tiki
[14:03] wolfganga makes sense?
[14:04] fabricius so as long as Tiki is installed on a mashine where you can install wkhtml2pdf, you can implement it right easy by using the path, otherwise it's getting complicated
[14:04] fabricius That must be pointed out
[14:04] wolfganga that is correct
[14:05] wolfganga in the current implenentation, the enntire additional authenticaten part is missing. and thats why it does not work for restricted conetnt
[14:05] wolfganga in other words - it could never ever have worked with restricted content
[14:06] fabricius what would be the effort to write such a webservice? could that be used kind of globally? I mean like writing a webservice for VPS including all hooks for Tiki, like an API and publishing on github or so
[14:06] ricks99 wolfganga: can't you use a token for restricted access?
[14:06] fabricius Isn't there some PHP library around somewhere as an alternative for shared hosting users?
[14:07] wolfganga it might be possible to use a token - however i actually do it based on sessions.
[14:07] ricks99 ah. tiki includes token feature
[14:07] wolfganga it is very difficult for me bc the auth. stuff is really a mess
[14:08] wolfganga they use to differnet session ids to avoid collisions (which i thing would never ever happen though)
[14:08] fabricius I refer to things like tcpdf or mpdf => http://www.tcpdf.org/, http://www.mpdf1.com/mpdf/index.php
[14:09] wolfganga so token might be a way - but i have no clue of how they actually are suppose to work.
[14:09] wolfganga anyway 90% are already done. there was a basic attempt in tiki-setup_base.php
[14:10] ricks99 tokens were specifically addd to give access to exteranl service to a restricted tiki object
[14:10] wolfganga that could also never ever have worked bc it dod not consider the 2nd session cookie
[14:10] ricks99 no need to re-write authentication stuff. see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Token+Access
[14:11] wolfganga i'll look into this right away. pls have a look yourself to tiki-setup_base arround line 147
[14:12] wolfganga some started something there: if (isset($_GET[$sessionName]) && ($tikilib->get_ip_address() == '127.0.0.1') ......
[14:12] wolfganga it even has a comment there: // This is used by features that need to query the server to retrieve tiki's generated html and images (e.g. pdf export)
[14:13] wolfganga @fabricius tcpdf is nice but:
[14:13] wolfganga it is fairly slow bc it implements all stuff in php
[14:13] wolfganga it implements only a subset of css etc.
[14:14] wolfganga i worked with it for simple projects where i need simple reports
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[15:45] jonnyb gezza: are you here? just got your mail re iconsets stuff...
[15:46] gezza hi
[15:46] gezza yes, i am here now
[15:48] gezza we can chat about iconsets
[15:48] jonnyb so it sounds like something odd happens when you clear the caches regarding site them vs user theme? we probably don't ever need more than one "theme" iconset loaded at once, do we?
[15:49] gezza only case could be when theme options are used
[15:49] gezza but it is up for discussion
[15:49] jonnyb hmm, i guess it would make it work more like the other css and js etc
[15:49] gezza i mean the same way css and templates are managed, that we load first the main theme's stuff than override with the option's
[15:50] jonnyb true
[15:50] jonnyb i guess we can change the iconset.php files to ne themeoroptionname.php fairly easily now - would be really hard to do it later
[15:51] gezza yes, probably we will only ship one example for a fivealive-lite theme and one of its options
[15:52] jonnyb in a few tikis time there could be loads of them, so best to do it now while it's all fresh
[15:52] gezza just to showcase the possibility, not sure if it will be used much, but leave the door open and have the same customization approach as for css files and templates
[15:53] gezza i am ok with that naming schemes (same name as the themeoroption)
[15:53] jonnyb the other thought i had about making all the default icons work would be adding them to the iconset definitions, not restoring the glyph and fa functions at all, i think that would be a step backwards
[15:54] jonnyb will do the renaming now...
[15:55] gezza how would you make the default glyph and fontawesome names available?
[15:57] jonnyb by adding the full list of "built-in" ones in a defaults array, then only having ones we've "aliassed" in the current icons array (and add code to IconsetsLib to look in defaults if not found in the "normal" ones
[15:57] jonnyb just need to be a bit careful when different types of icons are mixed (as is currently possible)
[15:58] jonnyb fun! :)
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[15:59] gezza well, I see some benefit, but also a drawback that people will introduce various names for the same icons in the tpl-s
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[16:00] jonnyb don't we already have that?
[16:02] gezza i mean it is better to use in a template eg: "youtube" than "fa-youtube" as icon name
[16:02] jonnyb it just seems dull that each time you want to use an icon that's not been used before, but is already loaded into the icon font, you have to edit the iconset php files
[16:02] jonnyb definitely no fa- or glyphicon- in the tpls
[16:03] jonnyb the iconset will add the pre and post bits on the fly
[16:03] gezza so you would "strip" the prefixes and suffixes
[16:03] jonnyb yup
[16:05] gezza ok, that could work
[16:05] jonnyb i did try that in the experimental branch last week but gave in, but i think it's worth another go - i'll do it in tiki14_themes branch first just in case :)
[16:05] jonnyb but the renaming thing should be safe, so i'll do that first
[16:05] gezza do you think we need to fix function.icon.php around line 177 ($v2 = $tikilib->get_style_path($prefs['style'], $prefs['style_option'], $v); so that you can still use custom png files in themes to override? it used to work before
[16:06] gezza or drop this
[16:06] jonnyb no, that would be good to keep
[16:11] gezza i replied to your mail about the "link" parameter not working, but it bounced back from sourceforge saying it is too big message
[16:11] gezza not sure why, anyway, i copy it here now:
[16:11] gezza currently the iconset icons can be used in two ways : 1) by using only "name" param: it simply displays the icon in a <span> or <img> depending on the setting in the iconset definition  2) by using "name" AND "title" or "href" param: it produces a link element (<a>) around the <span> or <img>. You can also specify a class, but if you dont, than there is a default class, which is now bootstrap's "btn btn-default btn-sm". Probably btn
[16:15] gezza btn-link so that it looks like a simple link without borders as lindon mentioned"
[16:26] jonnyb yes, by default it should not have border imho
[16:27] jonnyb sorry, dealing with 200 conflicts in the experimental branch :)
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[16:36] Tiki-KGB [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 53559 to 53592
[16:36] Tiki-KGB Many tree conflicts fixed manually
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[17:14] Tiki-KGB [MOD] iconsets: Change the theme specific iconset naming convention to match css and other files, so now should be:
[17:14] Tiki-KGB themes/your-theme/icons/your_theme.php and themes/your-theme/options/your-option/icons/your_option.php
[17:14] Tiki-KGB Note: hyphens need to be replaced with underscores
[17:20] wolfganga ricks99 - are you still there?
[17:21] ricks99 barely
[17:21] * ricks99 needs more coffee
[17:21] wolfganga it works with token - but i would like to add the hint in the setup to pdf that it requirtes token auth enabled. No idea of how to do this.
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[17:22] wolfganga so if a user enables pdf based on that external tool, he gets the hint "requires also token auth "
[17:22] ricks99 sorry, don't have any idea. but glad to hear that tokens worked for you
[17:23] ricks99 can you simply use a popup window? (have no idea about your site or implementation)
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[17:27] wolfganga it has nothing to do with "my" implemenation.
[17:27] wolfganga i meant: if i select a tiki feature - sometimes it tells me "requirex xyz".
[17:28] ricks99 do you mean simply adding a hint in the admin panel?
[17:28] wolfganga and i think the pdf feature should tell the user: requires token access enabled
[17:28] ricks99 however, it doesnt actually *require* tokens, that's simply one possible implemenation,right?
[17:28] wolfganga yes
[17:29] ricks99 tokens are rquired only if the content requires a login
[17:29] wolfganga a hint or a hint with the link as other fetures have
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[17:29] ricks99 yes, you can easily add that... i believe in the prefs file... one sec...
[17:30] wolfganga i know - but if i want to export to pdf restricted content - then this applies.
[17:31] ricks99 k. you can add a 'hint' to the pref file. look in ../lib/prefs/..
[17:32] ricks99 simply add the hint to the setting.
[17:32] ricks99 probably a good idea to udpate the doc to, mentioning tokens as a way to handle login-restricted conent
[17:36] wolfganga btw. learnd a lot about tikis session and authetication handling ....
[17:49] wolfganga anyone knows wether tracker items should be able to get printed/exported via pdf?
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[18:14] wolfganga Mhh new problem - tokens do not seem to work on pages that act as a trackerinput
[18:14] wolfganga so printing / exporting as pdf does not work
[18:19] jonnyb hi wolfganga - sorry, not done anything with pdfs, think you're breaking new ground! :)
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[18:25] wolfganga hehe
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[18:32] Tiki-KGB [FIX] categorizator: Add a little margin to the checkbox divs so the tree flippers are clickable again
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[18:36] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Ticket#5534. Using wkhtml2pdf to generate PDFs from wikipages even they are restricted (so only visible to certain users). Uses the feature "auth_token_access". "auth_token_access" is not required if the page to be exported to pdf is visible to anonymous users. Updated the pref file to require this feature if pdf export is to be enabled. Note: wiki pages that have a trackeri
[18:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwikinput still fail bc of access problems. This might be based on how the token mechanism is implemented.
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[21:15] ricks99 Q: How to require a password/passcode to download a file in a Tiki file gallery? is this possible?
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