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i expected it to happen
phpstorm, file watcher is enabled
how does this work? :) luciash: no idea, i do it manually
(what a shame on me) chibaguy: hi gezza, I have "Immediate file synchronzation" checked, in the settings > file watchers > less dialog
I'm not really sure if that's the correct box (didn't read the docs about this). gezza: i have it checked to
too chibaguy: Also, sometimes I make a small change in the .less file to trigger it, if it doesn't trigger immediately. gezza: it says "executing less task" chibaguy: like a comment-out, then uncomment.
oh, ok.
Any errors? gezza: no error message chibaguy: But the .css file doesn't change? jonnyb: polom gezza: no, only tiki-cssmenus.less is changed, the css is not chibaguy: ah, try making a small change like comment/ouncomment in tiki_base.less. That's the file being watched for changes.
I think upstream files don't update automatically.
Or downstream, I mean the file that imports but isn't imported.
IOW, to have a *.css file compiled, you need to edit *.less even if the real change is in a file imported by *.less.
Hi jonnyb and luciash. gezza: hmm, ok
i try chibaguy: Just touch the file with any change - do/undo, etc.
(tiki_base.less) gezza: Process finished with exit code 0
is that good or bad? :) chibaguy: good gezza: "Track only root files" is enabled for you? output path is : $FileParentDir$/css/$FileParentDir$.css chibaguy: Yes, track only root files. Output path: ../css/$FileNameWithoutExtension$.css Tiki-KGB: 03luciash r54351 10branches/ 10(640 files in 376 dirs) * [FIX] adding missing svn:keywords Id property luciash: hold on, doing the merge fabricius: joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: bbl gezza: output path was wrong, now it is compiling, thanks chibaguy! luciash: commiting on trunk
merge done Tiki-KGB: 03luciash r54352 10(641 files in 377 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/14.x 54347 to 54351 gezza: i have this css rule: a.structure-home { padding: 0px; }
works fine in chrome and IE, but not in FF
any idea why? luciash: looks good, could be padding: 0 (without px)
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no, still not ok in FF, but ok in IE and chrome luciash: I doubt it will help anything though gezza: how can something override in FF, but not in chrome? luciash: might be some -moz-... rule
check in your Firebug
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will see how it looks on nextdoc, that uses structure luciash: I will instal 14 on my local and check gezza: hm, nextdoc is not really working
I thought it is on Tiki14 Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Google code shutting down - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=55259
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14.x jonnyb: what's the error? luciash: when I run php console.php database:install I get: jonnyb: btw, gezza - that drill-down thing seems to have stopped working for me, was partially working yesterday luciash: get: "PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function fetchAll() on a non-object in /var/www/tiki14x/lib/core/TikiDb/Bridge.php on line 32"
PHP 5.5 gezza: jonnyb: it works nicely for me, what do you see? jonnyb: no tooltip thing appearing any more, i'll recheck my prefs... gezza: yes, that is meant to be with drilldown, no tooltip but the structure appearing as menu on hover jonnyb: luciash: is your db/local.php all ok, and perms etc correct? gezza: on the home icon jonnyb: oh right, was different yesterday (i.e. broken ;) ) thanks for fixing! luciash: jonnyb: it is fresh new install, just created empty database, no local.php created yet jonnyb: you'd have to know it's there though
i tihnk console install needs local.php, otherwise how does it know which database to install into?
(obviously needs a butter error message) luciash: ah, right, me stupid :) gezza: yes, documentation needs updating :) luciash: so first install possible only via browser, right jonnyb: i guess the install command needs some questions adding if there's no local.php
i suppose you could create the local.php file in the shell too... luciash: yes
lol, the installer now defaults to put "My Account" in the browser title instead of "My Tiki" ;) gezza: jonnyb: https://dev.tiki.org/item5590 seems to be serious to me
i created a show instance for it jonnyb: worked fine for me yesterday, will check your show
thanks gezza: i think has the same root cause as https://dev.tiki.org/item5588
i think lindonb worked on the controller to enable actions to have a confirm step
and ticket checking luciash: gezza: worksforme in FF (padding: 0) gezza: hmm, maybe need toclear broser cahce luciash: padding: 0 is applied, no idea, maybe you have cached something gezza: thanks for the feedback wolfganga_: joined #tikiwiki
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Just watching the bigblue recording from yesterday - sry that i was unable to join. gezza: hi wolfganga chibaguy: joined #tikiwiki gezza: wolfganga, if you have time, can you revisit r54227? http://dev.tiki.org/item5559#contenttabs_view_tracker_item-2 CKEditor and Fullcalendar wont load having minify javascript enabled luciash: hi wolfganga_
gezza: any idea why is there #top_modules, #topbar_modules, #pagebottom_modules {margin-left: -15px; margin-right: -15px} and no padding? the sitelogo and other modules in the header looks bad on first install impression with no padding gezza: no idea, but it is too compressed, would need some marign or padding
maybe becasue they are all bootstrap rows wolfganga_: gezza - i will look into this. if it is a minfy issue i'll find it ;-) gezza: bootstrap gives 15px margin
but i am just guessing :) luciash: ok, do not guess then :) maybe gary had some reason, i will ask him
it overrides the col-md-12 setting with those negative -15px gezza: thanks wolfganga! just enable minify javascript and try to edit a page with CKeditor or display a calendar with Fullcalendar wolfganga_: jonnyb - are you there? jonnyb: hi wolfganga_ here
shame you didn't make it to the meeting yesterday, we talked about how we could do better not to alianate new people and i reckon you have some good insight into that ;) wolfganga_: jonny, since you recently fixed the popup translation thing i thought i would aks you:
using the trackerlist plugin, one can set the popup parameter. jonnyb: (i confirm minify breaks ckeditor - it was one of the "dependency" files, which means it doesn't minify properly as it's already minified, afaik) wolfganga_: i wonder if is is possible to get the field order in the popup matching the fieldorder of the popup parameter jonnyb: isn't there another parameter for that? i think... wolfganga_: so popup="3:7:1" would show the fields in the popup like this as well.
as with the minify thing - i'll check and fix this - (minify is to important for reducing the load time!)
Fom https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerList : popup (numeric, colon separated). When passing the mouse on a field with a link to the item in the list, a popup with the values of these field will be displayed. jonnyb: hmm, no param for that, i'm sure i've seen something like that somewhere wolfganga_: The popup works, However to make it really usable the fieldorder in the popup should match the order of the field definition in the popup param. jonnyb: maybe you have to set the order in the tracker definition wolfganga_: you cannot set the order in the tracker definition - and it would be a differnet anyway jonnyb: seems to get rendered at templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.tpl:212
and it goes in the order that the fields are listed it seems wolfganga: jonny i see it but it does not. it iterates through the fields and then compares against $popupfields
line 2220: {if in_array($f.fieldId, $popupfields)}
220 jonnyb: yes, i mean it uses the order set (i imagine) in the fields param, not the popup one wolfganga: and this is not *logical* it should use the popup ones.
anyway - i guess i can fix now that i know eher to look at :-)
where chibaguy: Sorry for interruption, but a quick question: what should be the default theme for new installs? luciash: pom pom pom, we have some question for you devs
:) chibaguy: luci just pointed out to me in skype that the default is Bootstrap. wolfganga: But if you already started .... *wolfgang smiles * feel free to do it chibaguy: And the basic layout template.
Is this the best? luciash: yes, now the default theme after fresh install is Default Bootstrap and Standard Bootstrap layout wolfganga: chibaguy - i would go for boostrap standard jonnyb: wolfganga: as long as no one else minds you altering the current behaviour (i don't user trackerlist any more so don't care ;) ) luciash: (Standard Bootstrap == basic layout) chibaguy: hi wolfganga. My concern about bootstrap standard is: where is the Tiki imprint/identity?
Or originality? jonnyb: i was guessing the default theme for 14.x would be fivealive-lite like the tiki sites chibaguy: That was my assumption, too, I think, jonnyb. jonnyb: :) chibaguy: But I haven't done a fresh install for a while so didn't think about it. luciash: I would probably go for Bootstrap default too (actually I thought it is already decided for 14) and maybe provide some quick option to try the other (Tiki) themes in the Wizards on the first login wolfganga: i see - have not thought about that. (not long engough with tiki i guess..) - well in this case yes fivealite might make more sense chibaguy: Do you think a post to the dev list and maybe convene vote is needed for this?
Or shall we just decide. ;-) jonnyb: no, let's keep it as fa-lite luciash: I would say so, as here are different opinions wolfganga: But - it really must work without any hassles. jonnyb: :P luciash: jonnyb: the problem is "keep" does not exist - the fact is default is Bootstrap Default on fresh install now wolfganga: some themes - at least in past - wher not fully working. that must not happen to a default theme! luciash: so the decision is really if we should change it chibaguy: right, wolfganga. I hope to fix those up before the final release. jonnyb: bootstrap default doesn't look so good, imho - and 13.x was "experimental" chibaguy: yep. luciash: in my opinion it would be quicker to fix some padding (white space) in default simple Bootstrap look (everybody is familiar with out there) before the 14 is released than trying to catch all the fivealive(-lite) issues and inconsistencies, but that is just my opinion - I thought the fivealive-lite will be special for the community sites and not the default, but if you feel it is doable and the first impression will be better after fresh install I am OK with th chibaguy: One thing about fivealive-lite is that it has a hardwired-height top bar, unlike the other bundled non-bootswatch themes. Is this the best for new sites? Or should the default theme have a "legacy" page header? luciash: chibaguy: legacy aka Bootstrap legacy ? chibaguy: Bootstrap has had a bad rep for all Bootstrap sites looking alike. If we release Tiki and it looks just like (actually and it is) a default Bootstrap, I think that'd be pretty bad promotion for Tiki.
No, Tiki legacy. jonnyb: does anyone actually use the default theme for real? chibaguy: Do you mean default Bootstrap or default Tiki? luciash: so you mean gezza, you chibaguy and all are testing with fivealive-lite (the bootstrapification and icons changes) ? chibaguy: (I've seen a lot of FiveAlive tiki sites - so in that case the default Tiki theme was kept by quite a few installs. -: luciash sounds puzzled now probably luciash: I always tested fresh install first jonnyb: actually, so have i - fivealive tiki with a badly fitting logo, using the default blue too... luciash: jonnyb: I do not use the default on any sites, just for testing/development chibaguy: luciash, yes, afaik fivealive-lite is getting tested along with other themes as far as the icons and bootstrap are concerned. On thing about bootstrap and the icons is that these should be theme-independent. luciash: jonnyb: but now I realized there is no whitespace in the default after fresh install and it gave bad first impression and realized it was intentional for the other themes like fivealive-lite as Gary told me in a Skype chat chibaguy: yeah, the badly fitting logo - what a nightmare to give that header background for people to adapt their logo and site title to. ;-) luciash: sorry, i mean no white space around the tiki logo
chibaguy: yeah, nightmare to please them all ;) Tiki-KGB: 03jonnybradley r54354 10branches/14.x/console.php
[FIX] console: Display a more polite error when local.php isn't there (thanks luciash) jonnyb: the default theme's main point is to give a good impression, so it needs to be complete and well maintained, hence fivealive-lite seeming like the most obvious choice to me chibaguy: I think it's a matter of where the white space is built in, for the most design flexibility. It should be at the logo itself, not in the low levels of the grid. luciash: jonnyb: tks :)
all right, so the decision should be change the default theme to fivealive-lite, layout to something ??? and edit the default logo image to contain some whitespace (the png itself) in it ? chibaguy: (I'm kind of defending the present layout because, although I can't remember exactly my reasoning, I do remember spending time and going back and forth with various arrangements before ending at this point. Not to say it can't be improved. But I'm too sleepy now to give good reasons for it. ;-) ) jonnyb: i'm seeing dozens of lessc error after this last svn up - loads of stuff not defined :( luciash: (imho the Default Bootstrap should look good too when user decides to use it, so the white space around elements should be nice anyway, which is not the case right now) chibaguy: On the topic of the header, one place that isn't ready really is the small-device view. This probably needs to be improved before the release. luciash: lets have some sleep Gary and decide all that later over the weekend or Monday chibaguy: that's true luciash, but shouldn't the user use proper bootstrap layout when configuring the site? so in the module zone there'd be grid divs containing whatever Bootstrap uses to avoid no-whitespace? luciash: chibaguy: it does but the -15px are overridng it from tiki_base.css
*overriding chibaguy: OK, I'll check again too, after sleep and coffee. ;-) luciash: all righty, good night! jonnyb: nn chibaguy chibaguy: So I'll be back in 10 hours or so. good night, all. :-) gezza: interesting conversation about default theme upon first install
i always test with Default Bootstrap and I think that one should be the default
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gezza - are you there? gezza: hi wolfganga wolfganga: hi gezza - question could you confirm the issue with the CKEditor and the minified javascript?
i treid on my dev mashine and cannot reproduce. gezza: yes, I can confirm on my local dev, jonnyb tried too
so you enabled minify javascript and used ckeditor on a page? wolfganga: yes - that is what i did
do you a javascript error or so?
in chrome / firebug ?
i cheked feature: ckeditor and use html in wiki pages - then i opened a wiki page in edit mode
and watched the network tab and the console tab in chrome dv tools gezza: in chrome i see: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'config' of undefined Uncaught ReferenceError: CKEDITOR is not defined wolfganga: Mhm - Can you repouse as mentioned here: https://dev.tiki.org/item5559?from=Wishlist#contenttabs_view_tracker_item-2 on https://next.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=52179
reproduce gezza: ok, I create a show instance
for calendar I get: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'config' of undefined tiki-calendar.php:947 Uncaught TypeError: undefined is not a function wolfganga: no need to i guess - as far as the report say the problem should show up on https://next.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=52179
can you see the issue there, too? gezza: i am not so sure that is the same issue
I referenced it because torsten an d jonnyb commented into that issue wolfganga: well, the url was posted as a refence in the bug report - so i copied from there
gezza - how can i reproduce / setup the calendar issue - what do i need to setup? gezza: http://xavi-9794-5559.show.tikiwiki.org/
admin/admin
try to edit the homepage wolfganga: ok gezza: only thing I changed was to enable WYSIWYG
and minify javascript
the rest is the default Tiki install
i also enable here calendar wolfganga: ok i can reproduce their - thank you gezza: Preference feature calendar enabled (Preference name: feature_calendar) wolfganga: can you also demo the calendar stuff there? gezza: Preference calendar fullcalendar enabled (Preference name: calendar_fullcalendar) wolfganga: yes see it
thank you again - will look into it gezza: if you switch off Minify JavaScript, than the calendar should appear
ok, thanks! Tiki-KGB: 03gezzzan r54363 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-admin_structures.tpl * [FIX] apply form-control on select to have proper width
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