[00:00] Tiki-KGB 03walper r54754 10trunk/ 10(16 files in 9 dirs)
[00:00] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Fixed and iproved handling of including Javascript, CDNs user defined CDNs and minification. This is a major rewrite and impacts any place that uses JS on file level. Added a lot of comments to make inner workings clear and updated all areas using JS Files.
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[08:14] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r54755 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-listpages_content.tpl * [FIX] Use full words instead of abbreviations
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[08:38] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r54756 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-edit_blog.tpl * [FIX] navbar class and related posts input
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[08:50] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r54757 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-view_blog_post.tpl * [FIX] icon set and divs
[09:58] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r54758 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-list_blogs.tpl * [FIX] making screen more compact by bringing buttons and find to one row
[10:04] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r54759 10branches/14.x/modules/mod-func-users_list.php
[10:04] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Prevent displaying the users list in a meaningless sort order for end users in cases when usernames correspond to some numeric id's (ldap or similar), which are unrelated to Real Names. Cheap fix by means of allowing to sort by email, which is usually way more related to the real name than that numeric id. Better fix would have been to allow sorting by Real name, but that fie
[10:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwikild is not found in users_users mysql table, so that it would have been more complicated to implement (and beyond my current skills).
[10:06] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r54760 10branches/13.x/modules/mod-func-users_list.php
[10:06] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54759][FIX]Prevent displaying the users list in a meaningless sort order for end users in cases when usernames correspond to some numeric id's (ldap or similar), which are unrelated to Real Names. Cheap fix by means of allowing to sort by email, which is usually way more related to the real name than that numeric id. Better fix would have been to allow sorting by Real name, b
[10:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwikiut that field is not found in users_users mysql table, so that it would have been more complicated to implement (and beyond my current skills).
[10:08] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r54761 10branches/12.x/modules/mod-func-users_list.php
[10:08] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54759][FIX]Prevent displaying the users list in a meaningless sort order for end users in cases when usernames correspond to some numeric id's (ldap or similar), which are unrelated to Real Names. Cheap fix by means of allowing to sort by email, which is usually way more related to the real name than that numeric id. Better fix would have been to allow sorting by Real name, b
[10:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwikiut that field is not found in users_users mysql table, so that it would have been more complicated to implement (and beyond my current skills). Convert also some spaces to tabs
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[10:22] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r54762 10branches/14.x/tiki-edit_blog.php * [FIX] set max post default to 25 to prevent find.tpl to open parameters
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[13:13] chibaguy polom
[13:15] luciash hi chibaguy
[13:19] luciash there is something wrong rendering on this page: http://tiki.org/Live
[13:22] luciash anyway, the BBB recording is here: http://recordings.blindsidenetworks.com/citadelrock/d559965849921585c1849af03b7a51638700d979-1427395532015/presentation/
[13:25] chibaguy What is wrong with the page?
[13:26] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54763 10branches/14.x/lib/smarty_tiki/ 10function.object_selector_multi.php 10function.object_selector.php
[13:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX] object_selectors: Show plain input even if simplevalue is empty, and make the input wider and add some help text
[13:30] luciash chibaguy: when you are logged in and scroll down
[13:31] chibaguy oh, not logged in....
[13:33] chibaguy it's taking forever to get the page again after logging in :-\
[13:34] chibaguy hm. connection timed out.
[13:37] chibaguy well, when I can access the page again, I'll take a look at the rendering.
[13:49] luciash strange
[13:49] chibaguy Listening to the recording now.
[13:49] chibaguy Thanks for the link, luci.
[13:49] luciash I think it is because of the list of recordings is taking time to load and with the rendering error it loads twice
[13:50] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54764 10branches/ 0314.x/installer/schema/20150327_tracker_showPopup_option_fix_tiki.sql 1014.x/lib/core/Tiki/Profile/InstallHandler/Tracker.php
[13:50] Tiki-KGB [FIX] trackers: Fix profile installer defaults for showPopup and sectionFormat options and update data from previous versions
[13:50] Tiki-KGB (to be backported once tested, should fix wish5600 properly - thanks Xavi)
[13:52] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54765 10(12 files in 7 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/14.x 54752 to 54764
[13:55] luciash chibaguy: this is what i see in Chrome → http://awesomescreenshot.com/0754qlp6e0
[13:55] luciash (the link will expire in 3 days)
[13:58] chibaguy wow, strange.
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[14:16] jonnyb polom
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[14:34] Tiki-KGB 03anbumania r54766 10branches/14.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.menu.php * [FIX] Menu 'separator' option seems to be ignored in Bootstrap menus
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[14:50] xavi polom
[14:51] xavi jonnyb around?
[14:51] jonnyb hi xavi
[14:51] xavi hi jonnyb, that issue with the 0 pre-selected is still alive for radio buttons, I dunno why.
[14:51] xavi you fixed it for multiselect, and radio buttons, somehow,seem to be different
[14:52] jonnyb oh, shame (actually i only tested on checkboxes - oops)
[14:52] xavi see it reproduced here still: http://xavi-9794-5599.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1&cookietab=2
[14:52] xavi with field 5 (radio button)
[14:53] jonnyb another time i'm afraid, have to get on with some very late client work
[14:53] jonnyb think i fixed the tracker profile thing (again) though this morning
[14:54] xavi ok. tracker profile thing: yes, I confirmed it already and closed the bug tracker item, etc.
[14:55] jonnyb super, thanks :)
[14:56] Tiki-KGB 03patrick-proulx r54767 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Item.php * [enh] Added trackerId to fields returned in Item.php->getData()
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[15:01] luciash hi jonnyb , xavi
[15:02] jonnyb hi luciash
[15:04] xavi hi luciash
[15:06] xavi jonnyb, you said in your commit message from r54734 (the fix to wish5600) "to be backported once tested". I can backport it, but I don't know to which other version (I only noticed in tiki 14.x; didn't test myself anywhere else)
[15:07] xavi I mean, I didn't notice the issue anywhere else
[15:07] jonnyb ok, maybe it's ok then - i guess that bit has changed in 14
[15:08] jonnyb let's not backport if we don't have to (even though the data is a bit wrong im my local 12.x)
[15:08] jonnyb hmm, actually i thought i saw it fail on a profile created tracker... i'll recheck
[15:10] jonnyb no sorry, it was a 14.x tracker - if the bug tracker profile is ok on 12 we don't need it
[15:11] jonnyb food time - bbl
[15:13] xavi ok, see you
[15:19] chibaguy xavi, I can ask Anbu (Anbumania in the cvs mailing list) to have a look at that radio buttons bug.
[15:20] xavi thanks chibaguy!
[15:20] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r54768 10branches/13.x/ 10lib/init/tra.php 10lib/core/Tracker/Field/Dropdown.php
[15:20] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54738][FIX] trackers: Seems explode on an empty string creates an array with one zero element, so if one of the options for the dropdown is zero that defaults to being selected (thanks Xavi, hopefully fixes wish5599)
[15:20] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54739][FIX] tr: Seems if the string "0" is translated it is returned as an empty string for all languages (discovered while investigating wish5599)
[15:20] chibaguy He's working with Nelson and Patrick, and has made some nice fixes for us.
[15:21] xavi chibaguy: this is the related (open) bug report: http://dev.tiki.org/item5599
[15:22] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r54769 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/init/tra.php 10lib/core/Tracker/Field/Dropdown.php
[15:22] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54738][FIX] trackers: Seems explode on an empty string creates an array with one zero element, so if one of the options for the dropdown is zero that defaults to being selected (thanks Xavi, hopefully fixes wish5599)
[15:22] Tiki-KGB [bp/r54739][FIX] tr: Seems if the string "0" is translated it is returned as an empty string for all languages (discovered while investigating wish5599)
[15:22] xavi btw, chibaguy, we added this new section yesterday during the last TRM: http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki14#Upgrade
[15:22] xavi TRM: for the record: Tiki Roundtable Meeting
[15:22] xavi (and not TRadeMark ;-)
[15:23] chibaguy Ok, I started listening to the recording but didn't get too far with it yet.
[15:23] chibaguy heh
[15:23] xavi which points to a new page where some detected issues during pre-tiki14 testing (in next*.t.o sites) are aggregated
[15:24] xavi first one I added there, was the one about the "squashed" logo with chrome (or small logo with firefox), that jonny said that you knew already about, or something, etc
[15:25] xavi and fyi, themes.t.o was said (suggested) to be the first to be upgradeed to 14.x, in a week or so, etc
[15:25] * xavi goes to listen to the last part of the TRM, which I missed
[15:26] chibaguy yes, I heard that part about the logo and themes.t.o.
[15:28] chibaguy bbl
[15:32] luciash xavi: TRM is good shortcut :)
[15:32] xavi :-D
[15:32] xavi & "TM"
[15:33] luciash xavi: do you remember how to link to a specific minute and second in the recording?
[15:33] xavi remember?: no. But I wrote it somewhere at the doc.t.o page for PluginBBB afair
[15:33] * xavi checking
[15:34] luciash cool, tks
[15:34] amette_laptop polom
[15:36] luciash amette_laptop: hey bro
[15:36] amette_laptop hi luciash
[15:36] xavi luciash: (hi amette)  Add &t=XXmYYs to the URL of the recorded playback (XX for minutes, YY for seconds)
[15:37] xavi from http://doc.tiki.org/BigBlueButton#Changes_in_BBB_0.81
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[16:06] luciash xavi: great, thanks!
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[16:36] Tiki-KGB 03luciash r54770 10branches/ 1014.x/themes/base_files/css/tiki_base.css 1014.x/themes/base_files/less/tiki-bootstrap_overrides.less 1014.x/themes/base_files/less/tiki-miscellaneous_global.less
[16:36] Tiki-KGB [FIX] remove unwanted padding from first and last list item link of menus and ellipsis dropdowns (and dropdown title) and put it on the ul itself (made them look weird on hover)
[16:39] luciash jonnyb: any idea what is wrong with the 13.x SYLVN module now on https://tiki.org/Tiki+Roundtable+Meeting+2015+03+26+Followup ?
[16:40] jonnyb checking...
[16:40] luciash jonnyb: it seems to include whole content of the current page recursively ? :-o
[16:40] luciash on any page while logged in it seems
[16:41] jonnyb yes, odd - i think i fixed that in 14.x and was wondering why it seemed to be ok in 13 there - maybe was just cached or something
[16:41] * luciash goes to clear chache
[16:41] jonnyb basically it needed bootstrapifying
[16:41] luciash cache
[16:41] jonnyb quickest fix is to disable the jquery-ui tab mode
[16:42] luciash no joy
[16:42] jonnyb how does ity look on next.tiki.org?
[16:42] luciash ah, hmm, ok, going to do that
[16:42] luciash didn't check yet
[16:42] luciash but that is 14.x
[16:42] jonnyb seems fine on next
[16:43] luciash slightly bad backport?
[16:44] luciash jQuery presentation disabled on that module
[16:44] luciash now
[16:44] luciash cache cleared
[16:48] xavi luciash: btw, that documented way to pre-define minute and second for the bbb play in bbb 0.81 did not work with bbb 0.90 it seems.
[16:48] xavi and no idea about any other way to do it
[16:51] luciash :(
[16:51] luciash just trying that
[17:00] luciash xavi: it seems to work, when you add /? instead of /& on the URL
[17:00] luciash :)
[17:00] xavi nice! :-)
[17:30] jonnyb off out for a while, mbbl
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[18:05] AccordeonPete Sorry to barge in, but I'm having a problem with my TIki on a hosting provider: it refuses to send email ('Email not sent') whereas it used to work fine until a few days ago. When I clone the tiki (same version) onto my own machine (install tiki and export/import the database) to allow for easy debugging it works fine. The hosting provider machine does not allow ssh access, only ftp and http. Does anybody have a suggestion
[18:10] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5606
[18:11] luciash AccordeonPete: hard to say, can you try use SMTP method to send emails from Tiki instead ?
[18:11] amette_laptop AccordeonPete : ask the hosting provider!?
[18:15] AccordeonPete Thanks for your replies! I tried SMTP and I don't get an error message in that case, but just a blank (white background) screen in the browser. No email is sent, though.
[18:16] AccordeonPete I have indeed been suspecting that the hosting discounter might have made some "improvements" on the configuration of the server. Unfortunately, this is a very basic hosting provider and I haven't found a convenient way to ask questions.
[18:17] AccordeonPete Maybe as additional explanation: the hostingprovider is basic, but also very cheap - and since I'm Dutch, that is important to me ;-)
[18:17] amette_laptop hrhr, I see ;)
[18:18] amette_laptop well, either you will have to try and modify the code to see, if you can come produce some more meaningful error message...
[18:18] amette_laptop ... or try and find out somehow if/what the hosting provider changed.
[18:18] amette_laptop (if you didn't change anything)
[18:19] AccordeonPete OK, I'll try that. I think the file to edit is the Sendmail.php file of the zend framework, is that correct?
[18:19] amette_laptop not sure, but sounds correct if not using SMTP method
[18:20] AccordeonPete Unfortunately, there have been many changes on my side - it is a tiki that I use for students of our university to contribute all kinds of stuff for our class. Strange thing is that, when I reinstall tiki, it does sucessfully send an email during the installation/configuration (at the hostingprovider).
[18:22] AccordeonPete I'll start working on the sendmail file and see what happens - in the meantime, any suggestions and ideas are very welcome! I was kind of hoping that this was a trivial problem with a solution known to everybody except me ;-)
[18:35] fabricius polom
[18:35] fabricius hello everybody
[18:36] amette_laptop hmmmm, now that you mention that the installer can send an e-mail... it does sound like there is a trivial solution purely tiki based... but sadly I don't have any idea here, sorry.
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[18:38] amette_laptop hi fabricius
[18:38] fabricius hi amette_laptop
[19:06] slyskawa I'm running 12.3 and I am having problems resetting tiki so wiki is displayed instead of blog for anonymous users.   What am I missing?
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[19:09] fabricius slyskawa: Hi
[19:09] fabricius slyskawa: you mean default "Home"?
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[19:14] slyskawa fabricius yes
[19:15] slyskawa I have "Use Tiki Feature as homepage":wiki.
[19:18] slyskawa when I logout as a user or access the site in private/incognito, it goes to tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1
[19:21] fabricius cleared caches?
[19:21] fabricius browser and tiki caches!
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[19:32] slyskawa used multiple browsers, some of which have never been to the site.  how do I clear tiki cache?
[19:34] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54771 10branches/14.x/templates/activity/activityframe.tpl * [FIX] notifications: Add some styling classes
[19:34] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54772 10branches/14.x/lib/user/monitormaillib.php * [FIX] notifications: Missing param default
[19:34] fabricius you have quickadmin slyskawa?
[19:35] fabricius http://yourdomain.tld/tiki-admin_system.php?do=all
[19:35] fabricius or this way
[19:37] slyskawa now I get this Fatal error: Class 'Smarty_Internal_Resource_String' not found in /home/slyskawa/lyskawa.info/xt/vendor/smarty/smarty/distribution/libs/sysplugins/smarty_resource.php on line 401
[19:39] slyskawa and url when I go there still defaults to "tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1"
[20:38] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54773 10branches/ 0314.x/templates/activity/tiki.comment.reply.tpl 1014.x/templates/monitor/notification_email_body.tpl
[20:38] Tiki-KGB [FIX] notifications: Add base tag to notification emails so images appear in the email, and add missing tiki.comment.reply.tpl (just a copy of tiki.comment.post.tpl so far)
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[20:59] fabricius slyskawa: should I have a quick look?
[21:02] slyskawa http://lyskawa/info/xt/
[21:02] slyskawa http://lyskawa.info/xt/
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[22:19] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Info about r54754 trunk: Fixed and improved handling of including Javascript - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=55428
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