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[11:01] fabricius polom
[11:01] fabricius somebody here?
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[11:41] AccordeonPete Hi fabricius, I'm here (AccordionPete) - anything I can do? FYI:  I'm mostly a clueless tiki newbie...
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[13:31] fabricius hello wolfganga
[13:32] fabricius how r u?
[13:32] wolfganga hi fabricius :-)
[13:33] fabricius it can get quite complex when you start to use trackers and objectlink instead of drop down fields
[13:33] fabricius but handy on the long run
[13:35] fabricius wolfganga: "Fallakte" back then a few eeks ago, I could demo to an extend which was enough for the meantime - right now more pressure with manuscript tracking for the "Conference Proceedings".
[13:36] wolfganga i remeber you spoke about it
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[13:42] wolfganga lindonb - are you there?
[13:42] lindonb yes
[13:43] wolfganga I use trackerlist plugin with the new table sorter (so far no server side sorting)
[13:43] wolfganga Could it be that the fieldorder for the filerfield definition
[13:44] wolfganga must match the position of the fields in the tracker, and not the field list as set in the plugin?
[13:44] wolfganga i can give an example if i am not clear
[13:45] lindonb why do you ask?
[13:46] wolfganga because if i set filter, they do not work with the corresponding fields ;-9
[13:46] wolfganga after some try and error - it _seems- that i have to lookup the position norder in the tracker
[13:46] wolfganga to setup the filter fields
[13:47] lindonb 14x?
[13:47] wolfganga 14.x and trunk
[13:47] wolfganga at least trunk from 10 days ago
[13:48] lindonb will look at it, but not right now
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[13:48] wolfganga ok - another one:
[13:48] wolfganga when i setup dropdoes with value=displayvalue, then this does not work for table sorter
[13:49] wolfganga table sorter shows "value=displayvalue". I.e. if i set 1=food, 2=drinks in the dropdown field in the tracker
[13:50] wolfganga then table sorter offers "1=food" butnot "foot"
[13:50] wolfganga and also no longer filters proper
[13:50] wolfganga again - can provide a concrete example
[13:51] lindonb can test dropdowns but may need a demo as I don’t quite get your example
[13:51] lindonb again, not right now
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[13:53] wolfganga when setting up a trackerfield type "drop-down" i can set either only values, value=displayvalue pairs, correct
[13:54] wolfganga so either "food", "drinks" or "1=food, 2=drinks"
[13:55] wolfganga if i do "1=food", 2=drinks" then tablesorter offers "1=food" instead of "food"
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[13:55] wolfganga and does not filter properly
[13:56] wolfganga however if i do just setup the dropdown with "food, drinks", tablesorter works
[13:56] wolfganga more clear?
[14:19] fabricius loool
[14:19] fabricius sry
[14:20] fabricius wolfganga
[14:20] wolfganga here
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[14:24] fabricius no, said sorry for lolling
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[14:39] lindonb wolfganga: tablesorter uses a pipe for that, so “1|food”, but I haven’t added that for the plugin yet as this enhancement was added (at my request) after I had implemented tablesorter for the plugin. I didn’t think there would be a need for the plugins but you’ve obviously found a need so I can add it. Will probably make the syntax 1=food as you suggest because a pipe would be interpreted as another column
[14:42] jonath1 This is code development only here, right? Where can i ask new to the users community questions (having read all the documentation and FAQ's of course!) ?
[14:43] lindonb you can ask that here too
[14:46] wolfganga lindonb, thank you for looling into it. well the syntax should match those in the drop-down trackerfield definition
[14:46] fabricius hi jonath1, welcome to the Tiki community
[14:47] jonath1 OK Thanks.  am in the early stages of building a community knowledge base. I have installed tiki 14 and made some early implimentation decisions /explorations. The key feature of the thing is a properly multi lingual encyclopeadia / wiki. So two questions first up 1) are any events planned reachable from London where I can meet some people doing the same or similar? 2) if not, can I organise one, and would anyone come?
[14:48] fabricius jonath1: there is one core developer in London, whom you might be able to attract inviting him for a beer (what would be kind of a micro TikiFest or a TikiBarCamp)
[14:49] fabricius around July we wil have a TikiFest in Czechoslovakia
[14:50] fabricius around end of August likely Germany Bonn (not yet 100% decided, if this year again or only next year) I opt for this year aswell
[14:50] lindonb wolfganga: the tiki tablesorter code does not look at the tracker field types or other information
[14:50] lindonb wolfganga: on you first question, what is the exact syntax you are using for the column filters?
[14:50] fabricius we had plenty of TikiFests around the world and many in central Europe, like Strasbourg, Berlin, London, Bonn, etc.
[14:51] wolfganga Mhh - {trackerlist trackerId="7" fields="17:40:18:20:21:23" popup="24:25:26:40" status="opc" showlinks="y" showpagination="y" showstatus="n" more="n" server="n" sortable="type:reset" sortList="[1,1]" tsortcolumns="type:digit|type:text" tsfilters="type:text;placeholder:Type a digit...|type:text;placeholder:Type to filter...|t"
[14:51] wolfganga the tsfilters definition seem to must match the order of fieldpositions in the tracker
[14:51] jonath1 My travel budget is blown already on going to India in September 2015 for our community conference. The London contact would be great if shareable? Anyone near New Delhi in Sept this year?
[14:51] wolfganga not the fieldlist as in fields of th eplugin
[14:53] wolfganga to be clear: if i usefields="17:40:18:20:21:23" i would expect that the tsortcolumns and tsfilters would have the same order
[14:53] lindonb so you’re trying to filter the first 3 columns?
[14:53] wolfganga in their definition
[14:54] fabricius jonath1: Sadly we have too less information about where people live around the world - more the very active people. Hmmm but possible. We must think about how to communicate such things a bit better. When you will be back from India?
[14:54] wolfganga actually yes - would like to filter all though.
[14:54] fabricius jonath1: for the London contact just query to jonnyb, when he is here in the chatroom
[14:55] lindonb but your syntax is for the first three, right?
[14:55] wolfganga yes
[14:55] lindonb and what is happening instead?
[14:56] wolfganga it _seems_ that the first 3 feields are not the first as defined in fields="....", but in the oorder of the field position in the tracker definition.
[14:57] wolfganga so in my example i have the first fields = 17:40:18
[14:57] wolfganga but this is not the order (position) in the tracker definition
[14:57] lindonb do any filters show up? if so, where?
[14:58] wolfganga all 6 filter show up - above their field names
[14:59] lindonb is there a demo?
[15:00] wolfganga i would need to setup one - test is our internal system - where you would need vpn
[15:00] wolfganga can do this - using the bug wishes tracker for 14.x, ok?
[15:00] lindonb let me see if I an recreate a problem when setting the field order
[15:00] wolfganga ok
[15:02] lindonb but this is taking me away from testing your js improvements :)
[15:02] wolfganga oh no!
[15:02] wolfganga ^^
[15:03] jonath1 Based in London. India just a one off this year. Thank you for the welcome. I will return with some queries about multi lingual modules, once I have exploreed some more. ta ta :-J
[15:03] wolfganga * wolfgang thanks lindonb for testing the js stuff *
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[16:02] fabricius wolfganga: still there?
[16:02] wolfganga yes
[16:02] fabricius I am coming across a problem which I remember you similarly expressed last Thursday
[16:03] fabricius more a feature request
[16:03] fabricius tracker
[16:03] fabricius document/issue/process management
[16:03] fabricius conference proceedings manuscript - reviewing process (referring next conference, not the current process
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[16:04] fabricius issue tracker should be capable to automatically send reminders depending on time and date
[16:04] fabricius what you think about that?
[16:05] fabricius kind of: a certain task should be done until xxx days
[16:05] fabricius for ex a file reviewed and sent back
[16:05] wolfganga yes that would be great
[16:06] fabricius after xxx+1 day a reminder will be sent to a defined e-mail adress or a defined user or group or to the allocated lecturer
[16:06] fabricius I have an idea about that
[16:07] fabricius it should be a general capability of tiki to do tasks based on time
[16:07] fabricius but hard to setup cronjobs for average users
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[16:08] fabricius even hard to manage a lot of individual cronjobs for advanced developers
[16:09] fabricius but why not have one default cronjob (example that would run on most servers and would be easy to customise if not)
[16:09] fabricius so:
[16:10] fabricius kind of a cronjob.php, where Tiki writes in all its schedules and tasks by itself (based on feature and preference)
[16:10] fabricius and the cronjob just triggers this single file every so often (default once a day)
[16:12] fabricius so if you need a cron functionality in a tracker, there might be a field for that (notificate after ddmmyy to mail@example.com, content=xyz or wiki:templatepage)
[16:13] fabricius understand the idea?
[16:13] fabricius tiki can write into files, like create the local.php or customise translations in lang/xyz/custom.php
[16:14] fabricius why not let Tiki create and alter a cronjob.php ?
[16:14] fabricius #
[16:50] wolfganga anyone fimilar with activitystreams?
[16:53] fabricius Nelson and Luci
[16:54] fabricius wolfganga: Nelson and Luci are the men of activitystream at this time
[16:55] wolfganga thnak you
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[19:39] wolfganga lindonb, luciash one of you there?
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[22:22] lindonb wolfganga: the column filter order is working as expected for me in a quick test I did
[22:23] wolfganga mhh - i 'll recheck here again - did youuse trunk?
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[22:24] lindonb 14x, having problems with trunk for some reason
[22:25] wolfganga mabye this is my fault ;-) do you get Js errors?
[22:26] lindonb i don’t think it’s your commit but i’m not sure
[22:26] lindonb i updated to a version prior to your commit and had the same issue
[22:26] wolfganga ok i see - anyway - elfinder.js has an issue when getting minified - i will apply a very simple patch in some minutes
[22:27] lindonb but it does seem like many js things aren’t loading so that’s why i’m not sure
[22:27] lindonb did a fresh install but it didn’t help
[22:27] wolfganga and - trunk also has currently a z-index issue with modals - there are not accessable
[22:28] lindonb ah, was noticing something wrong there earlier
[22:28] lindonb but i get no js now - can’t tell if it’s local or what, very weird
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[22:37] wolfganga lindinb - i remember there was something with a cookie
[22:38] wolfganga do you have a cookie like "javascript_enabled" ?
[22:38] wolfganga ... was a change from jonnyb...
[22:39] lindonb rings a bell - let me look into that. thanks!
[22:41] wolfganga .. had that myself a couple times....
[22:46] lindonb i think you’re right - I have a javascript_enabled cookie for 14x but I don’t for trunk
[22:46] lindonb how do you put the cookie there?
[22:51] wolfganga the cookie is automatically created. i do not know the inner workings though. For me it helped to empty browser cache if had that issue
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[22:52] lindonb ok, thanks
[22:55] wolfganga ^^
[22:56] wolfganga lindonb, if you do testing on the new js stuff (not the cookie thing - thats jonny) pls apply that recent commit if you use elfinder
[22:56] lindonb will do
[23:01] lindonb ok, got js going - thanks again wolfganga
[23:02] wolfganga qou are welcome ^^
[23:02] lindonb but had to force the cookie to be set through the code - hopefully not an issue for others
[23:05] wolfganga mhh - since i already had the same issue twice, i guess that issue is still open. Cannot expect clienst to always reset their cache or partially change the code on the serer ^^
[23:17] lindonb agree, seems buggy
[23:18] lindonb btw, having no issues with minified js in trunk
[23:18] lindonb will respond on the mailing list
[23:18] lindonb are you tackling minified css next? ;)
[23:39] wolfganga i would like to
[23:40] wolfganga i think the accessors (methods in headerlib.php) should be similar to js. (of cause respecting js vs css)
[23:42] lindonb great, I would like for you to too :)
[23:42] wolfganga :-)
[23:44] wolfganga i am also thinking about to make the concation process more independant from minification. that is - i think to cache all minified versions and concat them to a specific bundle when needed. that would reduce time in the rare case where filerequest to js change.
[23:44] wolfganga but that is on top
[23:47] lindonb sounds good