[08:17] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [08:54] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [09:14] Caarrie joined #tikiwiki [09:21] chibaguy polom [09:22] * chibaguy really likes soma-fm (http://somafm.com/) [10:40] gezza joined #tikiwiki [11:14] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5677 [12:26] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55502 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-admin_newsletters.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [13:08] Jyhem polom [13:54] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [14:06] * Jyhem eating. Be back in 15 min [14:10] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55503 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-edit_quiz.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [14:26] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55504 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-list_faqs.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [14:26] gezza hi jyhem [14:26] gezza jonnyb suggested yesterday you might be able help with this composer.tiki.org weirdness: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2015-05-22,Fri [14:28] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [14:28] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55505 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-list_faqs.tpl * [FIX] Missed a couple of classes. [14:28] fabricius polom [14:28] jonnyb moloq [14:29] fabricius nice to see you jonnyb, how are you? [14:30] jonnyb ok thanks, hope u r 2 :) [14:35] Jyhem polom [14:35] jonnyb hi Jyhem [14:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: display:none for elements in /tiki-print.php - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56348 [14:35] Jyhem hi gezza. Hmm, yes, I remember I did that. I wonder how [14:35] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [14:36] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55506 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-admin_shoutbox_words.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [14:36] Jyhem chibaguy really wants to be listed as owning the last commit for Tiki14.0 ;) [14:37] jonnyb i think i made some notes even... here: http://dev.tiki.org/composer#To_flush_out_an_incorrect_package_on_composer.tiki.org [14:37] jonnyb but i don't think gezza had the same problem [14:39] Jyhem Is anything known about gezza's problem ? [14:39] fabricius what is gezzas problem? [14:40] jonnyb yes, a bit - he committed a valid looking change to satis.json, here: http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/55499 [14:40] gezza i think the references to the new packages are ok, how canI double check? [14:40] jonnyb but the package doesn't show up on http://composer.tiki.org [14:40] Jyhem BOFH mode ? «Well, we have our solution, let gezza adapt his problem to fit» :-D [14:40] jonnyb even though the last updated timestamp looks like it's just after that commit [14:40] Jyhem just kidding [14:41] gezza :) [14:42] chibaguy Jyhem, I didn't realize owning the last commit was an honor. ;-) [14:43] jonnyb looks like chibaguy is doing a few last minute bootstrap fixes for 14.0 - many more to come? [14:43] * chibaguy just doesn't want the noteriety of committing the last bug.... [14:43] gezza luciash made an addition in r55259 and that one appears ok [14:43] jonnyb ha ha (sorry Jyhem, missed your similar comment ;) ) [14:43] chibaguy jonnyb, I can stop any time. I was just going up the default menu sprucing things up. [14:44] nelsonko hello :) [14:44] jonnyb no no, don't stop! [14:44] jonnyb polom nelsonko [14:45] chibaguy well, just give the word; these aren't critical upgrades for 14.0. [14:45] chibaguy hi nelsonko [14:46] jonnyb so what's the plan - afaict we should be releasing 14.0, 13.2, 12.4 and 9.10 today, sounds right? [14:47] Jyhem I suppose the composer thing is thirst ? [14:47] Jyhem s/thirst/first [14:47] jonnyb how about we all meet on bbb in a while? [14:48] jonnyb gezza's tagcanvas thing isn't for 14.0 (is it?) [14:48] jonnyb but first thing to get out of the way do you mean? maybe... [14:49] fabricius hehe jonnyb - adapt the problem to the solution? really a good idea! [14:49] jonnyb perhaps just running the cron script again having done the "reset for the satis build script" bit first will do it [14:50] fabricius nelsonko: by the way: any chances that your new login-forward get's backported to 14 after release? or unlikely? [14:50] Jyhem well, nothing contains "tag" or "canvas" in the zips in /var/local/composer.tiki.org/www/ [14:51] * jonnyb is sad his avatar has gone from tiki.org again :( [14:53] gezza tagcanvas is for trunk only [14:54] gezza so no block for the releases [14:55] Jyhem root@ks311033:/var/local/composer.tiki.org/bin/satis# mv satis.json.prev satis.json.prev.bak [14:55] Jyhem root@ks311033:/var/local/composer.tiki.org/bin/satis# /etc/cron.hourly/qualityupdate [14:55] jonnyb Looking at https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_9.x_Herbig_Haro/ i wonder why 9.9 is getting 11 weekly downloads still, but even odder is that 9.6 gets 35 [14:55] jonnyb probably one of these installer things i guess, stuck on 9.6 [14:55] Jyhem sorry, I'm not enthousiastic about leaving this for some "later time" [14:56] Jyhem So… something happened, all messages are nocely green. How can oanyone check that all is fixed ? [14:56] nelsonko fabricius: will consider after. [14:57] fabricius cool! [14:57] fabricius Jyhem: mesages went green? [14:57] Jyhem I ran the composer update script. All looked nice [14:57] Jyhem I just don't really know what it does :-) [14:58] gezza just checked composer.tiki.org, no change there [15:00] Jyhem what was expected ? [15:01] jonnyb well it says: Last updated: 2015-05-23T14:55:36+0200 but still nothing containing "tag" on the page [15:02] jonnyb yes, sort of expected i'm afraid but worth a go (and all i could think of) [15:06] gezza maybe they should be added to the "require" section in satis.json? [15:06] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55507 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-shoutbox.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [15:06] Jyhem No reference to tagcanvas during the script run [15:06] Jyhem but yet it is in the satis: [15:06] Jyhem root@ks311033:/var/local/composer.tiki.org/bin/satis# grep tag satis.json.prev [15:06] Jyhem "name": "jquery/plugins/tagcanvas", [15:06] Jyhem "url": "http://www.goat1000.com/jquery.tagcanvas.js?2.6.1.js", [15:11] gezza i added the "require" info and now they appeared [15:11] Jyhem is it there now ? [15:11] jonnyb one small discrepancy i see is the download link on http://www.goat1000.com/tagcanvas.php#links is http://www.goat1000.com/jquery.tagcanvas.js?2.6.1 but the url in satis.json is http://www.goat1000.com/jquery.tagcanvas.js?2.6.1.js [15:11] jonnyb but both seem to work [15:11] gezza yes [15:12] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r55508 10trunk/doc/devtools/satis.json * [MOD] adding "require" information about new packages [15:12] jonnyb doh! [15:12] gezza seems like the require info is needed [15:12] Jyhem I just escaped the '?' in the local satis.json.prev file [15:12] jonnyb yup, of course - it is "required" :) [15:13] gezza sorry, now I know :) [15:14] Jyhem yes, you fixed it, not I [15:14] Jyhem next topic: releases :) [15:14] jonnyb i forgot [15:26] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r55509 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-edit_perspective.tpl * [FIX] Fix/improve layout by bootstrapifying. [15:27] Jyhem https://tiki.org/live ? [15:27] jonnyb yup, am there! [15:32] jonnyb nelsonko: just checking you (or anyone else) don't have anything else for 14.x etc before we start releasing? [15:32] jonnyb http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release [15:40] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55510 10branches/14.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Update version strings [15:40] nelsonko jonnyb: I don't have anything else :) [15:42] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55511 04branches/14.x/db/tiki-secdb_14.0_mysql.sql * [REL] Remove previous secdb file [15:58] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55512 10branches/14.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 14.0 [15:58] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55513 10branches/14.x/lang/ 10(52 files in 52 dirs) * [REL] Update language.php files for 14.0 [16:00] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55514 10branches/14.x/changelog.txt * [REL] Update changelog.txt for 14.0 [16:03] Jyhem >> Copyrights updated: +26 contributor(s), No new commit [16:04] Jyhem 6) Update 'changelog.txt' file (using final version number '14.0')? [16:04] Jyhem [Y/n/q/?] [16:04] Jyhem >> There were already some commits for the same final version number in the changelog. Merging them with the new ones. [16:04] Jyhem >> Changelog updated with 298 new commits (revision 55509 to 55020), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits. [16:04] Jyhem Probably since the beta [16:06] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55515 10branches/14.x/copyright.txt * [REL] Update copyright.txt for 14.0 [16:06] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [16:14] Jyhem >> Current PHP code successfully passed the syntax check. [16:14] Jyhem >> Current Smarty code successfully passed the syntax check. [16:20] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55516 03branches/14.x/db/tiki-secdb_14.0_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 14.0 [16:20] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55517 03tags/14.0 * [REL] Tagging release [16:25] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: display:none for elements in /tiki-print.php - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56348 [16:25] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki project opportunity - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56347 [16:25] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki 14 release imminent this Saturday May 23 - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56346 [16:34] chibaguy dog-walk time. bbl. [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: display:none for elements in /tiki-print.php - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56348 [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki project opportunity - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56347 [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki 14 release imminent this Saturday May 23 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56346 [16:44] jonnyb by Gary :) [16:46] jonnyb just in time... Jyhem has done the 14.0 release - woot! Files are here for testing: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_14.x_Peony/14.0/ [16:47] nelsonko downloading bz2 [16:47] jonnyb i have the 7zip one, looks ok so far [16:50] gezza checking the zip [16:51] jonnyb thanks gezza and nelsonko [16:51] jonnyb 7zip seems ok so far (installing) [16:53] jonnyb seems to work (in Norwegian ;) ) [16:58] nelsonko I installed bz2 and then executed collaborative community profile. so far so good [16:59] jonnyb yup, seems ok for me, next! :) [16:59] jonnyb we're chatting on bbb by the way if you want to come and join us? [17:00] gezza zip installed in hungarian, seems ok [17:00] jonnyb :) [17:03] nelsonko ok what's next? [17:04] jonnyb tidying up svn stuff [17:04] jonnyb Jyhem is starting on 13.2 [17:04] jonnyb and i'm going to have a go at 9.10 [17:05] jonnyb 14.x merge to trunk will need doing (and there will be conflicts on the version stuff) [17:05] nelsonko shd i try 12? [17:06] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55518 10branches/13.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Preparing 13.2 release [17:06] jonnyb yes please :) [17:06] jonnyb http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Release_Steps [17:07] Jyhem nelsonko: what do you mean "try 12" ? Release 12 ? [17:07] Jyhem or test 12 ? [17:08] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55519 10branches/14.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Finishing off 14.0 release [17:09] nelsonko release 12 [17:11] jonnyb go for it :) [17:12] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55520 04branches/13.x/db/tiki-secdb_13.1_mysql.sql * [REL] Remove previous secdb file [17:13] fabricius Hey guys, crossing fingers! [17:13] jonnyb hi fabricius - i don't think anyone's tested the .gz tarball ;) [17:14] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55521 10(65 files in 57 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/14.x 55500 to 55519 [17:14] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55522 10branches/12.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Preparing 12.4 release [17:14] fabricius Is that a hint with the shed door, jonnyb? [17:14] jonnyb just if you're looking for something to do :) [17:16] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55523 04branches/12.x/db/tiki-secdb_12.3_mysql.sql * [REL] Remove previous secdb file [17:16] fabricius or better translated a beck with the bam door jonnyb [17:17] jonnyb :D [17:17] fabricius could be with a fencepost aswell jonnyb [17:17] fabricius but in this case it was more a bam door, right jonnyb? [17:18] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55524 10branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Preparing 9.10 release [17:18] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55525 04branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.9_mysql.sql * [REL] Removing previous secdb file [17:18] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55526 10branches/13.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 13.2 [17:18] jonnyb yup [17:18] fabricius which one or all? [17:18] * jonnyb hopes nelsonko hasn't forgotten to update twversion.class.php :) [17:18] fabricius hehe [17:18] jonnyb barn doors are most popular in English phrases generally [17:19] nelsonko I did update it, KGB reported above [17:19] nelsonko r55522 [17:19] jonnyb sorry, going blind - i looked for it :O [17:19] fabricius and do you wink or beck or give hints? [17:20] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55527 10branches/13.x/ 10(52 files in 52 dirs) * [REL] Update language.php files for 13.2 [17:20] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55528 10branches/13.x/changelog.txt * [REL] Update changelog.txt for 13.2 [17:20] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55529 10branches/13.x/copyright.txt * [REL] Update copyright.txt for 13.2 [17:22] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55530 10branches/ 109.x/modules/mod-func-wiki_last_comments.php 109.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php 109.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 9.10 [17:24] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55531 10branches/ 10(49 files in 49 dirs) * [REL] Update language.php files for 9.10 [17:24] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55532 10branches/9.x/changelog.txt * [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.10 [17:27] jonnyb nelsonko: did you remember to check for php 5.3 incompatible syntax in 12.x? http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Check_PHP_syntax_is_correct_for_each_branch [17:27] jonnyb i just reaslised i should do that in 9.x too... [17:28] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55533 10branches/9.x/copyright.txt * [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.10 [17:29] jonnyb 9.x is fine :) [17:29] nelsonko jonnyb: did you use phpstorm or grep? [17:29] jonnyb phpstorm [17:29] jonnyb just about to do 12.x too [17:30] nelsonko ok, let me know. I'll run the script after [17:32] jonnyb 12.x looks ok for php 5.3 [17:32] nelsonko ok thanks [17:34] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55534 10branches/12.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 12.4 [17:36] arildb joined #tikiwiki [17:38] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55535 10branches/12.x/ 10(52 files in 52 dirs) * [REL] Update language.php files for 12.4 [17:38] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55536 03branches/13.x/db/tiki-secdb_13.2_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 13.2 [17:40] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55537 03tags/13.2 * [REL] Tagging release [17:42] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55538 10branches/12.x/changelog.txt * [REL] Update changelog.txt for 12.4 [17:42] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55539 10branches/ 109.x/modules/mod-func-wiki_last_comments.php 109.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php [17:42] Tiki-KGB Partial Revert: [REL] Update README file for 9.10 (sorry, local changes committed by mistake) [17:44] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55540 10branches/12.x/copyright.txt * [REL] Update copyright.txt for 12.4 [17:44] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55541 03branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.10_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 9.10 [17:45] nelsonko jonnyb: 10) Check syntax of all PHP files? do you respond Y ? [17:46] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55542 03tags/9.10 * [REL] Tagging release [17:46] jonnyb nelsonko: i think both of those only work in 14.x onwards [17:46] jonnyb it failed in 13.x (some wikilingo stuff) and i didn't even bother on 9.x [17:46] nelsonko that's what I remember. ok I skipped [17:49] jonnyb Note for whoever is doing the press release - Tiki 14.0 has had 1029 commits since 13.0 release [17:49] jonnyb (not sure if that counts commits made in trunk before branching) [17:49] jonnyb 26 new contributors too :) [17:50] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55543 03branches/12.x/db/tiki-secdb_12.4_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 12.4 [17:50] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55544 03tags/12.4 * [REL] Tagging release [17:52] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55545 10branches/13.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL]Closing release 13.2 [17:52] Jyhem Hey guys, https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_13.x_Fomalhaut/13.2/ is there ! [17:53] jonnyb i'll take 13.2 bz [17:54] jonnyb 9.10 is also ready https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_9.x_Herbig_Haro/9.10/ [17:59] jonnyb tiki-13.2.tar.bz2 just unpacked and upgraded from a 13.1 db fine for me here [17:59] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [18:00] jonnyb tiki-9.10.tar.gz unpacked ok... [18:01] chibaguy tiki-13.2.zip unpacked fine. [18:03] jonnyb tiki-9.10 installed and did an upgrade fine too :) [18:04] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r55546 10branches/14.x/doc/devtools/release.php * [ENH] Improve release script (remove notices and give upload tips) [18:08] chibaguy tiki-13.2.7z unpacked ok and its contents appear to be identical to the zip archive's. [18:09] jonnyb cool, thanks chibaguy [18:11] nelsonko the 12.4 files are ready too https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_12.x_Altair/12.4/ [18:11] nelsonko I will try the tiki-12.4.7z [18:16] jonnyb i've got tiki-12.4.tar.bz2 [18:17] Jyhem I set tiki-12.4.zip as the default download on sf.net [18:19] chibaguy All the 12.4 archives unpacked to 17,276 files. [18:19] jonnyb 12.4 looks fine here [18:22] nelsonko I see a PHP Notice (on trying to login) Notice: Undefined index: tags in /Library/WebServer/Documents/tiki-12.4/lib/prefs/trackerfield.php on line 19 [18:22] nelsonko might be a preexisting problem... [18:22] jonnyb almost certainly, and just a notice - should be ignorable [18:22] nelsonko other than that it works fine [18:24] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55547 10branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Closing release 9.10 [18:25] nelsonko strange I didn't see it in tiki14 [18:26] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55548 10branches/14.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Add recent releases to the list [18:28] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55549 10trunk/doc/devtools/release.php 10trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/14.x 55519 to 55548 [18:29] nelsonko anyway does not seem critical to me, I will close the release [18:31] nelsonko now communications time? [18:31] nelsonko update wiki pages etc.... [18:32] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55550 10trunk/doc/ 10stable.version 10longterm.cycle 10regular.cycle * [REL] Add new version for the admin panel update notifier(s) [18:32] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r55551 10branches/12.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php * [REL] Closing release 12.4 [18:34] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [18:46] jonnyb Could soneome please sanity check my update to http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit (i usually mess something up on there ;) ) [18:50] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55552 10branches/ 1014.x/tiki-adminusers.php 1014.x/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl [18:50] Tiki-KGB [ENH][FIX] users: Allow user tracker item edit and create on adminusers page (and moved a few things around to be more logical, hopefully) [18:56] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55553 10branches/ 1014.x/templates/admin/include_login.tpl 1014.x/tiki-setup_base.php 1014.x/lib/prefs/cookie.php [18:56] Tiki-KGB [FIX][ENH] login: Optionally recreate the rememberme cookie each time you log in so that "remember me for 1 week" means it will remember you from the most recent time you used the site for another week, instead of only remembering you for a week from the first time you logged in, even if you visit again 6 days later. [18:58] nelsonko lunch break - will be back soon [18:58] jonnyb ok, thanks nelsonko [18:58] jonnyb i'll probably be off for food too soon, more later (or tomorrow) [18:59] nelsonko ok [19:00] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55554 10(7 files in 5 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/14.x 55548 to 55553 [21:55] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: display:none for elements in /tiki-print.php - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56348 [21:55] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki project opportunity - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56347 [21:55] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki 14 release imminent this Saturday May 23 - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56346 [22:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: display:none for elements in /tiki-print.php - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56348 [22:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki project opportunity - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56347 [22:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki 14 release imminent this Saturday May 23 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56346 [22:08] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [22:24] fabricius rehi [22:24] fabricius how is everybody? [22:41] nelsonko hi fabricius [22:41] fabricius hi nelsonko [22:42] nelsonko I was just about to update info.tw.o for the new releases [22:42] fabricius perfect! any questions about include pages? [22:43] nelsonko what include pages? [22:43] fabricius or includes [22:44] fabricius before the last release we had a few dynamic variables and no access, so I prepared and used some includes to simplyfy and centralize upgrade info [22:44] fabricius a list of versions for eample with identical parts, but suited to the different language [22:45] fabricius change info on one page and have updated most of all [22:45] fabricius not yet perfect, but was starting to be helpful even last time [22:45] * fabricius is checking [22:46] fabricius this one: {include page="sys--CurrentTikiVersions" start="!StartCurrentVersions" stop="!StopCurrentVersions"} [22:48] fabricius nelsonko: you must access via editpage.php, cause it has a redirect to make it invisible itself (systempage) [22:48] fabricius http://info.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=sys--CurrentTikiVersions [22:49] fabricius nelsonko: I just deactivated the redirect [22:49] fabricius {redirect url="tiki-index.php"} => redirect url="tiki-index.php" [22:50] nelsonko so.. I edit this page [22:52] fabricius yes - maybe have a look in view-mode first (as I deactivated the redirect) and see the effect, then edit this page ... it should be quite easy to edit all existing languages [22:52] fabricius just replace or add the version - you'll see [22:52] nelsonko I need to change the text first [22:53] fabricius wiki page text or article? [22:53] nelsonko wiki page text [22:53] fabricius which oage you want to change text on? [22:53] nelsonko http://info.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=sys--CurrentTikiVersions [22:54] fabricius looool - I missunderstood you [22:55] fabricius I had a different impression of "text" - not text in sense of several characters, but text in sense of article content - sort of misstranslation maybe [22:55] fabricius sure the system page contains text aswell :D [23:06] fabricius nelsonko: did you see the "Editors Docs" menu left hand site on the top? => http://info.tiki.org/doc--SystemPages&structure=doc--EditorsDocs [23:06] nelsonko yes i see it [23:06] fabricius ok [23:08] fabricius nelsonko: for Tiki 14, we should maybe extend the following schedule a bit: Supported until the release of 15.0 (approximately Mid 2015) [23:09] fabricius we have nearly mid of 2015 now [23:09] nelsonko should be fall 2015 [23:09] nelsonko what page is this on? [23:10] fabricius Download [23:10] fabricius http://info.tiki.org/Download [23:12] nelsonko ok I think I have finished updateing [23:12] nelsonko Now I need to write a post [23:13] fabricius ok, I check the languages then for words like spring -> fall etc. [23:13] nelsonko ok [23:13] fabricius annoncement? => article => auto display to start page with articles plugin [23:14] nelsonko I was going to write an article [23:15] fabricius fine [23:16] fabricius by the way: I'd need an option to add classes to articles - do you knowif we have something like that? [23:17] fabricius maybe I can get a small funding for an enhancement or a coder, if we could guide him (new to Tiki) [23:18] nelsonko fabricius: you know a coder that could work on Tiki? [23:19] fabricius ohhhh that would be nice - I know a designer who helps me on two projects and who can do some php and MAYBE would be prepared to do some MINOR enancement on the code [23:19] fabricius why you ask? just cause we need coders anyway, or cause of your job offer? [23:20] nelsonko the job offer is mainly for someone local here, but any coders are good to have. [23:20] nelsonko But if your person is just a designer maybe not as suitable (not sure how good his php is) [23:20] nelsonko but he can do themes... [23:21] fabricius I woulod not count anything - better getting a positive surprise .. he is more into wordpress and stuff and I do either not know how good he codes [23:22] fabricius I hope to attract him for Tiki ... so we will see how much he get's involved into the projects and if he will start to like Tiki [23:23] fabricius I want to use isotope or packery for our associations startpage (aswell a test for tiki.org) and display articles and stuff in dynamic tiles instead of rows or static fields [23:27] fabricius by the way: I have been asked to support a self-help network association with a website - they need a very quick start and then long term support. Not much paid, maybe some symbolic honorarium, BUT the project is connected to the city council and surplus: "accessibility" is a "we should get there really seriously" requirement [23:28] nelsonko Accessibility is often not a "cheap" business,... [23:28] fabricius I know [23:28] fabricius I am reading and testing since a few month [23:29] fabricius there I could have a contact person, who is working with screen reader, as nearly blind - so real live feed back [23:30] fabricius aswell there is the self-help network -> more access to collaboration with visually impared people [23:31] fabricius and I am very convinced, that we could create very accessible websites, if we only would want it - there are a few things to consider with coding - mainly template related [23:32] nelsonko the popup"s might be a problem [23:32] nelsonko popup overlays, as well as light boxes etc [23:32] nelsonko these are usually the problematic spots (other than the simpler template fixes) [23:32] fabricius things like when you go to an ellipsis with a screen reader and you are told: "link element with 5 subelements" - even if you had access, it is odd to need to open everyzhing to get a picture what is inside [23:33] fabricius we need mostly some more smart and respectful templating, alike code documentation - it is a similar level [23:34] nelsonko "link element with 5 subelements"is not bad actually, I was told by someone blind people prefer that than having all 5 elements read out all the time [23:34] nelsonko We also need a way for someone using a screenreader to jump direct to the main content [23:35] fabricius yes, but why not "link element 'options for wikipage' with 5 subelements" or "link element 'edit trackeritem' with 3 subelements"? [23:35] fabricius just a little thing to think about [23:35] nelsonko right [23:36] Tiki|bot Info: Release of Tiki 14 and new minor releases of all supported Tiki versions - http://info.tiki.org/article234-Release-of-Tiki-14-and-new-minor-releases-of-all-supported-Tiki-versions [23:36] fabricius we need a (better?) way that Tiki realises, if JS is active on pageload (NOT with cookies if possible) [23:36] fabricius something alike > [23:37] fabricius something alike