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   <br> polom for the weekend
   <br> still no sf.net... (other open source repositories seems fine though ;) )
   Jyhem: Hi jonnyb
   <br> <u>Confirmed</u>: http://sourceforge.net/error-404.html
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   jonnyb: pompom, yes - been a long outage (let's hope they have a backup ;) )
   <br> hi chibaguy
   chibaguy: hi jonnyb
   <br> talking about sourceforge?
   Jyhem: yes
   <br> well, *we* have backups :)
   <br> I hoped to try and figure out how to be productive with the new svn version, but that's not urgent, I also have local d3.js stuff :-(
   <br> It just occured to me that “increasingly unreliable” might be more politically correct than “turning evil” ? ^^
   chibaguy: What do you think of sf/svn-alternatives, like git? This comes up from time to time.
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   jonnyb: hi fabricius
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: yes, we had a good discussion about moving to git(hub) at the fest, and even started a page on dev https://dev.tiki.org/What+ToDo+When+Migrating+To+Git
   <br> amette was very keen :)
   fabricius: polom
   <br> hi jonnyb
   chibaguy: So the page says "when", not "if". ;-)
   <br> I agree that it's the trend these days.
   jonnyb: Not sure it was quite so completely decided really, needs more input than just the few of us there in Luci's lovely courtyard ;)
   <br> and either way stabilising and releasing 15 come first, for sure, but i have to agree now using svn and sf.net makes us look rather unnappealing
   chibaguy: A few years ago I would have resisted, because git support was weak on hosted domains, etc., but now I think it's pretty available.
   jonnyb: likewise - it all seemed rather daunting a few years back, good gui tools (as seen in phpstorm) have helped a lot, and it's so much quicker for just about everything
   chibaguy: my brain is gradually absorbing awareness of how to use it ;-)
   jonnyb: i still get lost though - just did in the elFinder fork i'm supposed to be "managing" for tiki :)
   <br> apparently i need to get them to do a pull from my changes - that's a bit i still haven't got my head around properly
   chibaguy: I came across a diagram that'll help you out on that ;-) : http://tartley.com/?p=1267
   -: jonnyb looks at the spatial things...
   jonnyb: hmmmm... "it’s simplest to think of the state of your repository as a point in a high-dimensional ‘code-space’, in which branches are represented as n-dimensional membranes, mapping the spatial loci of successive commits onto the projected manifold of each cloned repository"
   chibaguy: don't look too hard. It's a joke.
   jonnyb: i was wondering ;)
   chibaguy: yeah, I thought it was for real at first, I guess most people do.
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   arildb: I am unable to update from SVN "target machine is actively refusing it". Does anybody else get this?
   Jyhem: Yes arildb :-(
   <br> could not connect to server (https://svn.code.sf.net)
   <br> <u>Confirmed</u>: http://sourceforge.net/error-404.html
   arildb: <u>Jyhem</u>: Thanks for the confirmation. Will just wait a little, I guess
   Jyhem: Well, it's been like this for about 24h now :-(
   arildb: oh
   <br> Nothing urgen on my side. Just thought I should get the latest status
   Jyhem: Apparently, we were prescient: https://dev.tiki.org/What+ToDo+When+Migrating+To+Git ^^
   arildb: Tiki migrating to Git...that's news. I like SVN. I thought Git was a bit of a pain to use last time I tried (which is well over a year ago)
   Jyhem: Nothing started yet, but…
   <br> I also liked svn until the new svn which totally breaks my currnt routine.
   <br> I actually thought I'd look it up today to figure it out, but…
   arildb: ok. When I actually can connect, I find SVN very good. No problems on my side.
   Jyhem: and in open-source circles, sf.net really has an image issue, on the ethics side
   arildb: I am not aware of that
   Jyhem: so if they *also* lose it on the technical side :-(
   arildb: yes, it must work
   Jyhem: They encourage adware bundling together with free software installers, they take over "inactive" projects (and do the adware bundling in installer thing).
   <br> They also let very deceiving "download me" ads on pages with less prominent actual download links (I've been bitten by this one once)
   arildb: right. I agree. Not good
   <br> btw. I have been having lots of issues with minify late javascript. The latest is that  custom language files are "lost", if the feature is activated. I have encountered more. It functions so pooorly, that I would almost suggest marking the feature as experimental.
   <br> using Tiki 12
   Jyhem: Soo, I stopped fighting the move to github some time ago.
   arildb: I understand the move to git more now
   Jyhem: Well, nobody really volunteered to actually take the (huge) job, but there is a trend and the trend meets less and less resistance
   <br> I don't know about the  minify late javascript issue
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   <br> polom
   jonnyb: hi gezza
   gezza: hi jonnyb
   <br> think you will have time to move the nice tikisites tracker?
   jonnyb: hi gezza - sorry, very long meeting
   <br> will try and do the tracker move tomorrow
   gezza: ok, see you
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