[00:02] nelsonko left #tikiwiki [00:33] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [02:04] Gwayne joined #tikiwiki [04:41] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [04:41] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [04:41] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [04:51] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [04:51] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [04:51] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [07:56] Gwayne joined #tikiwiki [09:06] pbiendl joined #tikiwiki [09:29] pbiendl Morning! :-) [09:29] pbiendl Are there any News when Tiki 15 LTS will be availible? [10:01] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [10:21] pbiendl1 joined #tikiwiki [10:21] pbiendl1 joined #tikiwiki [10:22] pbiendl1 joined #tikiwiki [10:28] pbiendl joined #tikiwiki [10:45] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [10:51] gezza joined #tikiwiki [10:51] redflo joined #tikiwiki [11:26] amette polom [12:01] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [12:10] chibaguy Hi amette [12:21] amette hi chibaguy :) [13:04] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [13:04] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [13:04] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [13:14] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [13:14] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [13:14] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [14:00] amette Ah, Tiki|bot is back.. :-/ [14:48] fabricius polom [14:49] fabricius how walks amette ? [14:49] amette lol - walks so - and self? [14:50] amette no, actually walks well, nothing to whine about at my end [14:51] msaad joined #tikiwiki [14:53] fabricius me walks well either. Just a bit too less power due to heat. cannot accomplish too much in acceptable times. Meanwhile flows me the soup the back down. [14:54] fabricius hi msaad [14:54] msaad fabricius: hey! [14:55] fabricius msaad: how thinks are going related to the login panel? [14:55] fabricius /s/thinks/things [14:56] msaad Haven't worked on that yet :), in fact you should go ahead and do it if you want, because I don't know when I'll be able to get it done. [14:56] msaad my schedule is really messed up lately. [14:57] fabricius msaad: sadly I am anyway behind my stuff ... have to work off the existing stuff first [14:57] msaad yeah, I know how that is :/ [14:57] fabricius maybe the summer msaad [14:58] msaad oh, it will be winter here, but still 29C hahahahah [14:58] fabricius ah you are south half? [14:58] fabricius India or Australia? [14:59] fabricius 29 C => India I guess [14:59] msaad hahaha nah, brazil! [14:59] fabricius Braazzzil [14:59] fabricius nice man [14:59] msaad and it gets even worse if you go a little bit up north, like 35~40C [14:59] fabricius where there? [14:59] msaad Small city close to Sao Paulo [14:59] msaad and you? [15:00] fabricius 35~40C we have here aswell, but we are not so much used to ... a godd 5 to 10 C higher than usual in average summer <=> maybe to do with global warming? [15:01] fabricius Wuerzburg, midsized city in the middle between Frankfurt and Nuremberg [15:02] msaad Live long and prosper Germany! \o/ [15:02] fabricius thx man ! [15:02] msaad Yeah, probably global warming for sure! [15:02] fabricius World champions . [15:02] msaad My grandma speaks german, her mom came from Berlin back in the days. [15:03] msaad Yeah, eternal 7x1!! :D [15:03] msaad I tried to learn german, but it's way too hard compared to latin languages (french, italian, portuguese, spanish) [15:04] fabricius Our guys did win against one of the best national teams (or football countries) ... what can be better for historical reports to have won the final against Brazil in Brazil ... greatest honour. [15:05] fabricius But you speak English [15:06] fabricius ok, English seems a bit easier than German [15:06] msaad exactly. But still, Brazil had an awful team back then, and still has. Since 2006 it was awful.. [15:06] msaad Germany had a great team, always been a fan of schweinsteiger and neuer ;D [15:07] msaad english is easy hahahaha, that's why everybody speaks it [15:09] fabricius I'd like to see more Brazilians in the Tiki community .. not yet really any an active Portuguese Language Tiki User Group [15:10] msaad fabricius: that is something I want to improve.. Translations.. [15:10] msaad We cannot rely on English when it comes to having a big user base outside english speaking countries.. [15:11] msaad Only 20% or less of the population here understands english (nearly half when it comes to speaking). [15:11] fabricius You might want to chat with Rodrigo about the status of Tiki online translation website (i18n.tiki.org) and the state and structure of merging the results to svn [15:13] fabricius in 2010 a few people od the then founded *DeTUG* (GermanLanguageTikiUserGroup) did translate to 98 to 100 %, which we more or less keep since. [15:13] msaad Thats nice! [15:14] msaad Yeah, I've been taking a look on i18n, but i18n / l10n should be separated things *ideally* [15:15] msaad I'm pt-BR product owner in Mozilla, so I manage the community to get our products localized and stuff. There are lots of things we can do to increase the number of volunteers that want to help on translating Tiki! [15:17] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:17] jonnyb polom pom pom [15:20] amette Hi jonnyb, just in time for change of shift - I'm off now. ;) [15:20] jonnyb hi and bye amette [15:20] jonnyb coming to the meeting later? [15:21] amette Yes, I'll try to be there for an hour at least. [15:21] jonnyb :) [15:21] msaad hi jonnyb :). Talking about the meeting, what time will it happen? =D [15:22] jonnyb hi msaad - 18:00 UTC i think, i'll check... [15:22] jonnyb yup, 18:00 UTC - more info here: https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meeting+2015+07 [15:24] msaad awesome, thanks :) [15:25] msaad loved to see that gezza wants to showcase Transifex! Yay! [15:27] msaad gezza: have you ever seen https://pontoon.mozilla.org/ (live localization editing HTML nodes!) [15:28] fabricius https://twitter.com/sourceforge/ [15:28] fabricius gezza here? [15:29] jonnyb hi fabricius [15:29] fabricius hi jonnyb [15:30] pbiendl Hi jonnyb :) I heard you can tell me more about if the LDAP external groups are currently broken? :) [15:31] gezza hi msaad and all [15:31] jonnyb hi pbiendl - sorry, never used LDAP, don't know how to set it up even [15:31] gezza i dont know pontoon from mozilla, will check it out [15:33] gezza seems like the interactive translation tool in Tiki [15:34] msaad gezza: yes, sort of :D [15:34] gezza it is not for the same as transifex [15:35] gezza i mean it helps to translate what you see, but there are things you dont see, eg: error messages [15:35] gezza anyway, I keep reading, thanks for the link! [15:35] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5689 [15:37] msaad gezza: yes, it's meant for static content only. [15:39] gezza msaad have you used transifex? [15:41] gezza i tested a bit, it looks promising to me, but would be good to have opinions from long time users [15:41] pbiendl jonnyb: Ok, thx anyway :) [15:41] fabricius Hi pbiendl, nice to get more German speakers into the community [15:42] pbiendl How did you know fabricius? :D [15:42] fabricius Validated your registration pbiendl [15:42] pbiendl Oh ok, that was you :) Thx! [15:43] jonnyb pbiendl: from tikifests - we were the only TikiCamp (so far) in Strasbourg a few years ago [15:43] msaad gezza: Yes, I've managed and used Transifex a lot! [15:43] msaad It's quite a good tool. [15:43] fabricius pbiendl: you might ask amette - maybe he has a clue - one of our Linux sysadmins. He is living in Berlin, is longtime active in the community and freelancing consultant [15:44] msaad but I don't remember why we moved from Transifex to Pootle [15:44] pbiendl jonnyb: Oh there are Tikifests? Need to look into it :) fabricius: Well, we don't need LDAP Groups for now, the normal User Authentication is just fine :) [15:45] jonnyb https://tiki.org/TikiFest [15:45] pbiendl But at first i didn't get why there are two tabs, one for users, one for groups - but the community helped me already, you DONT have to use groups at all [15:45] fabricius Two other Linux sysadmins / consultants in the community I'd recommend to ask would be Jyhem (Jean-Marc) from Strasbourg and refizul (Frank) from Duesseldorf [15:46] fabricius pbiendl: Not working with groups in Tiki? How you would sort the permissions then in a company environment? [15:46] pbiendl It's nice to hear that some sysadmins are from Germany too :) [15:47] pbiendl Uhm... we are only about 10 people for now... they all go into the Registrered Group - no need for other groups :) [15:48] pbiendl Maybe our bosses will be in another group, but assigning them to another/second group takes about 2minutes [15:49] fabricius pbiendl: next TikiFest: around FROSCON - TikiFest 19 to 23/24 Aug - Froscon 22/23 Aug - we will stay in Bonn; FROSCON will be in St. Augustin near Bonn (a few minutes by Tram) [15:50] pbiendl Well, i'm from near Passau... the other side of germany... Czech would be maybe the better option for me :D [15:50] gezza msaad great to hear that you have experience with transifex, we will discuss about it in the roundtable [15:51] gezza have to go now, bye [15:51] msaad gezza: ttyl! [15:51] fabricius Sadly we do not (yet) have roles. At the last TikiFest gezza did introduce Atlassians roles concept, which could be seen as templates for group permissions ... be in group A in a certain category and in group B in another category ... We did not yet find a good way to do similar in tiki, but I guess we will find some good way [15:52] fabricius bye gezza [15:53] fabricius pbiendl: so maybe next year in Czechia. In Bonn you could meet myself, amette, refizul, Jyhem and nelsonko (who will be coming from Canada) [15:53] pbiendl Wow... maybe i should be quiet then and don't whine about the other side of germany.. :D [15:54] pbiendl But yes, maybe next year in Czechia :) [15:58] fabricius amette, refizul and myself are frequently discussion how to improve things for and around the DeTUG (GermanLanguageTikiUserGroup) ... and recently a number of Germans with company background appeared. Maybe you register for the group on tiki.org => https://tiki.org/DeTUG [16:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [16:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [16:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [16:05] pbiendl Sure, but i don't see any register button? [16:06] jonnyb off out for a little while, bbl... [16:06] pbiendl Ah ok... need to login.. :D [16:13] pbiendl Maybe i'm just too dumb, but how do i access this DeTUG Group? [16:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [16:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [16:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [16:19] pbiendl fabricius: Can you tell me how to get into that TUG_GermanLanguage Group? [16:20] fabricius on the phone - moment [16:21] pbiendl no problem :) [16:39] fabricius back [16:39] fabricius pbiendl: you are registered on tiki.org => login [16:40] pbiendl Already did that [16:41] fabricius u r on the DeTUG page? [16:41] pbiendl yep [16:42] fabricius scroll down a bit and see a number of Tabs => Willkommen, die Gruppe, Dokumentation etc. [16:42] fabricius second tab "die Gruppe" [16:42] pbiendl already there :) [16:42] fabricius see a list of group members and add yourself below the list [16:43] fabricius mustt be a button [16:43] pbiendl Uhm actually no, there is no button [16:43] fabricius nothing like add in the group? [16:43] pbiendl I only see the list of Members and below the last Name (Torsten Fabricius) there comes "Du musst angemeldet sein, um die Mitgliederliste zu sehen und um Dich eintragen zu können. " [16:43] fabricius I relogin with a testuser and check ... gimme a minute [16:48] fabricius I see ... on the way fixing [16:49] pbiendl "Ich hab nichts gemacht!" [16:49] pbiendl ;) [16:56] fabricius pbiendl: please F5 and check [16:57] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [16:58] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [16:59] fabricius should work now [16:59] pbiendl Worked, thanks :) [16:59] fabricius fine [17:00] jonnyb repolom [17:00] fabricius I had to add a permission, which was not necessary previously [17:00] fabricius wolod jonnyb [17:00] pbiendl ok :) [18:45] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [18:51] fabricius polom nelsonko [18:51] nelsonko polom [18:52] fabricius see you later in the meeting? [18:52] fabricius need to leave the house for an hour now [18:53] nelsonko see you soon i n the meeting [19:02] msaad chibaguy: thanks for those links :) [19:03] chibaguy Sure. [19:06] chibaguy I put some basic documentation together at themes.tiki.org since releasing the Bootstrap-based Tiki versions. There've been contributions on that since the Bootstrap conversion got started, but I've been categorizing out of date pages as "retired" and making them visible only to admins at the themes site. [19:07] chibaguy So we can focus on providing up-to-date Bootstrap-era information with less ancient info, etc. cluttering things up. [19:07] msaad That's great. We can focus on getting pages with important content done first. [19:08] slyskawa joined #tikiwiki [19:09] jonnyb hi chibaguy - you're up late? going to make it to the meeting? [19:09] chibaguy I don't know how old-version info is handled with Mozilla, but with Tiki we've been doing things like putting it in tabs or page sections. At a certain point the really old stuff needs to be retired from the page but I don't thing we have a systematic way to do that. [19:09] chibaguy Hi jonnyb. Yes, if I can hang on a while longer I'll be there. ;-) [19:10] jonnyb well done, and good luck! :) [19:10] chibaguy thanks :-) [19:10] msaad chibaguy: well, the new websites like webmaker and teach.mozilla.org are prioritizing mobile nowadays, but they haven't figured out the old websites yet. [19:10] msaad It's not like we have much content over there too ^^ [19:11] msaad tabs is generally okey when the content isn't a must-show. Elements with toggling is also an option. [19:12] chibaguy I see. Yeah, with the transition to Bootstrap, especially at themes.tiki.org, I really wanted to start from zero almost. [19:12] msaad Having a blank slate is alwaaaaaays better. I see your point! [19:14] chibaguy Themes.tiki.org is easier because there isn't so much content, and not so much activity. Doc.tiki.org and dev.tiki.org (by the way, people often/usually write doc.t.o or dev.t.o, etc. for these) are bigger challenges because of a lot more content.' [19:14] msaad (thanks for the tip). [19:14] chibaguy But you'll run across statements like "As of Tiki 2.0,...." like that information is still important to anyone. ;-) [19:15] chibaguy Historians of trivia, maybe. [19:15] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [19:15] msaad At the same time, most of the content on those websites are static (text), which helps a lot. It's a matter of getting the layout bootstrapped right (which will take longer). [19:15] msaad hahahahahahha good one. [19:16] msaad s/right/right? [19:16] Bsfez Polom [19:16] chibaguy Right, there hasn't really been much said or done about responsive layout within pages (wiki content). Although I think most images have img-responsive class, and tables are in div.table-responsive usually. [19:17] msaad that's good enough for most scenarios [19:17] Bsfez Hi msaad, Chibaguy [19:17] msaad Hey Bsfez! [19:17] chibaguy Hi Bsfez (Bernard). [19:17] Bsfez Roundtable is in 45mn right ? [19:18] chibaguy Yep. [19:18] msaad yeap. [19:18] msaad Still haven't had lunch! >=( [19:18] msaad 2pm here. [19:18] Bsfez ahhhh…. quick pasta !!!! [19:18] Bsfez :D [19:18] msaad hahahahaha [19:19] msaad I've ordered some sushi, still waiting on it to arrive! Maybe they went fishing.. xD [19:19] chibaguy well, it'll be fresh. ;-) [19:19] Bsfez ha ha ha... [19:20] msaad says who lives in Chiba! nothing will ever get close as close as being fresh here :p [19:20] chibaguy :-) [19:21] Bsfez (45mn to do pasta, eat, shower… hum)… cu ! [19:22] msaad you gotta shower for the meeting? That's fancy! [19:26] jonnyb http://live.tiki.org still redirects to https://tiki.org/brtug even though i removed that perspective from the multidomain pref - most odd, maybe something weird in the htaccess... [19:36] luciash__ polom pom pom [19:36] jonnyb polom luciash__ (nice underscores! ;) ) [19:36] luciash__ lol [19:36] luciash__ just checking before the meeting ;) [19:37] luciash__ weirdly i do not seem to be able to change the nick currently [19:40] Bsfez msaad… after digging a whole of 2 meters 50cm deep… you need a shower no matter what you do next [19:41] Bsfez lol [19:41] jonnyb hi Bsfez - that sounds like fun (or is it the other one?) [19:44] Bsfez that sound like something stuck in a pipe ! [19:44] Bsfez :D [19:45] msaad Bsfez: Agreed lol [19:58] fabricius repolom [19:59] chibaguy the round table will soon begin: https://tiki.org/live [20:01] msaad wait, the html5 client doesn't work?! arghhhhhhh nooo for flash!! [20:02] jonnyb meeting room is ready! :) https://tiki.org/live [20:02] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [20:02] fabricius html5 not working? gosh ... happened recently ... bad [20:02] fabricius restarting and joining BBB then [20:03] msaad Had to fallback to flash :/ [21:10] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [21:49] msaad left #tikiwiki [22:19] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [22:19] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [22:19] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [22:29] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Link to tracker item and to build tracker item from link? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=56678 [22:29] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Branch 14 SVN update (SF) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56674 [22:29] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Hiring experienced Tiki User - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=56672 [22:35] Trouche joined #tikiwiki [22:37] Trouche I am trying to export data from my local copy of tikiwiki (14) to our new server copy (also 14). However, exporting the structure results in the following error message, "Can not add the page: /". I have ZipArchive installed. Any ideas? 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