[00:29] pedro_morgan anyone really crazy enought to use golang for tikiwiki.. for me... grabbing tw.contents and parsing at "html bits"...via ajax for insertion.. elese where on pyqt client desktop (ie a manually thing)
[00:31] pedro_morgan golang is the strategic decision, for goroutines and a compiled think with no silly "missing parts".. same "app logic", just a fifferent client o same db.....
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[00:42] luciash pedro_morgan: sorry, no idea what golang is :)
[00:46] pedro_morgan luciash: https://tour.golang.org/welcome/1
[00:49] fabricius a coding/programming language - what is the connection with Tiki pedro_morgan ?
[00:51] pedro_morgan I celebrated my 50th earlier this ear..
[00:51] luciash ah :) I guess I cannot wrap my head around it, sorry
[00:51] pedro_morgan And I got some tikiwiki's running.. and working sweet.. like this one http://anahata-retreat.org.nz/
[00:52] luciash (not crazy enough probably)
[00:52] pedro_morgan and also some tikiwiki on a "lan" with some manuals.. and alike.. and thanks to tiki tewam.. they are a reliable olde system.. and thanks all.....
[00:53] luciash cool
[00:53] pedro_morgan In concert I also write pyqt applications... = living.. as a db app/developer mainly python...
[00:54] pedro_morgan So snag is that I'm now writing "API" with golang..
[00:55] pedro_morgan So what I want to do is basically write a "golang" interface into tikiwiki, mainy to parse contents etc etc.. server side.....
[00:56] pedro_morgan Simple stuff would be updating tikiwikki.. as a backend into the db.. (avoiding tikiwiki)... but a lot of the magix happens in tiki wiki..
[00:58] luciash fabricius might give you some hints about the existing Wiki/Jison parser maybe to not reinvent the wheel? It is called wikiLingo or something...
[01:00] luciash I have no idea how it is supposed to work and barely nobody uses it in Tiki though so it seems to be destined for extinction in the end...
[01:01] pedro_morgan well the json interface is exactly what I am after.. a way to removely  "enquire" from remote service=tw..
[01:04] luciash sorry, maybe it is totally unrelated: https://doc.tiki.org/wikiLingo
[01:04] luciash probably not what you are looking for
[01:05] luciash I did not mean json (jison != json)
[01:06] pedro_morgan quick question.. as I dive through php.. where is the "wiki parser" ??
[01:07] luciash lib/
[01:07] luciash what Tiki version?
[01:09] luciash lib/parser/parserlib.php
[01:09] pedro_morgan git ?
[01:10] luciash we are still struggling on it: https://dev.tiki.org/Wiki+Parser+Revamp
[01:11] luciash nope, sf.net SVN repo
[01:17] pedro_morgan ok am into a challenge.. never writtena parser in my life.. but having a stab..........
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[15:49] jonnyb polom
[15:50] chibaguy polomagain
[15:51] jonnyb hi chibaguy - just did a little css fix, hope it was right :)
[15:55] chibaguy ah, ok, if it works, that's fine.
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[16:02] chibaguy There's a mix of styles in the Bootstrapified forms that probably should be fixed: when the label and input are in a row, sometimes the label is left-aligned, and sometimes right-aligned. Bootstrap docs and some best practices I've read say the labels should be right-aligned to make it clear which label is for which input.
[16:03] chibaguy So there's minimal whitespace between the label and input. But this also makes a ragged left margin which looks messy to some people apparently.
[16:03] chibaguy So we have some forms one way and some the other.
[16:04] chibaguy Seems like they should be consistent. Any suggestions?
[16:05] chibaguy I'll post it to the artwork list.
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[16:10] jonnyb sorry chibaguy - distraction(s)
[16:11] jonnyb i'd go for following the bootstrap standard by default, others can override locally if they really need to imho
[16:11] chibaguy You don't mind the ragged left margin?
[16:12] jonnyb one nice one i've spotted in a similar vein is the size of the left (labels) "column" varying, particulalry for instance on the registration form with user tracker fields and captcha added, they're all different!
[16:12] jonnyb no, right aligned for labels make sense to me
[16:13] jonnyb https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php for example (of both things)
[16:15] jonnyb i thnk it's the reg fields labels width that needs to be reduced from col-md-4 to col-md-3
[16:16] jonnyb however the registration ones also have col-sm-3 so i got scared and ran away :)
[16:16] chibaguy Hmm, yeah, we should have a forms style guide.
[16:17] chibaguy I made a page long ago about bootstrapifying forms but didn't suggest any widths.
[16:17] chibaguy or grid classes
[16:18] chibaguy I wonder what the thinking is regarding col-md-3 vs col-sm-3, etc. I need to do some more research.
[16:18] jonnyb i think leaving the tracker plugins ones alone would be best and make the reg ones match (and antibot)
[16:20] chibaguy Yeah, there's also the variability of the input field width.
[16:20] jonnyb and different * positions for the mandatory ones, it's a chewey one! :)
[16:21] chibaguy yep, well, I'll research and make a wiki page as a start.
[16:21] chibaguy gotta take the dog out now. bbl.
[16:41] luciash I tend to agree.
[16:41] luciash hi jonny :)
[16:41] jonnyb polom luciash
[16:42] luciash about your CSS fix I just wondered why it is limited to .col1 and not all the tables with .table-responsive class in all module zones too
[16:44] jonnyb yes, was wondering that too - but the commit before by chibaguy was deliberately only for the col1, it just only has some of the grid widths set
[16:44] jonnyb also not really sure why the bootstrap definition isn't good enough ;)
[16:50] chibaguy ah, when we had just the bootstrap definition, the tables would run under the right column because the @media breakpoint was wider (.container width) than the column containing the table.
[16:51] chibaguy It seems the Bootstrap rule assumes a table directly in the .container.
[16:51] chibaguy Or anyway in some div the same width.
[16:52] jonnyb ah, fair enough, thanks chibaguy
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[16:54] chibaguy Of course simpler is better, so if things still display nicely after your simplification, that's good.
[16:56] jonnyb fabricius: are you about? just fixed the tracker country user pref field so https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php should now get a dropdown menu when it updates (to r55989+)
[16:56] fabricius cool jonnyb
[16:57] jonnyb seems tha Tiki-KGB isn't reportgin commits anymore? (or which ever one it was)
[16:58] fabricius ohh yes ... do you know who is in charge?
[16:58] fabricius actually I have to go off ... need to do some work out of the house (shouldn't be here at all at all now)
[16:58] luciash :)
[16:58] jonnyb It's Oliver, i'll email
[16:59] jonnyb trouble is there are 3000+ items in there was mangled county values, so we'll need to fix them somehow...
[16:59] jonnyb was/with
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[19:19] davidgs I posted about this to the forums, but it was suggested I come here. Can't login to my new installation. And it won't send a password reset email
[19:23] gezza hi davidgs
[19:24] gezza the default password (admin) does not wok?
[19:24] gezza work
[19:27] davidgs Nope. And I even went in to phpMyAdmin and ran UPDATE `users_users` SET `password`='admin', `hash`= md5('admin') WHERE `login`='admin'; with no luck
[19:27] davidgs And if I ask it to send an email, no email ever comes.
[19:29] luciash davidgs: anything in the logs? did you try if you fullfill all the requirements by going to tiki-check.php?
[19:29] gezza hm, strange, is it a local installation?
[19:31] davidgs No, it's on my hosting providers' box. and tiki-check.php says I don't have permission to use that feature since I'm not logged in
[19:31] davidgs Don't see anything in the server logs either.
[19:31] gezza ais it an autoinstaller like softacolous?
[19:31] davidgs yes, I used softaculous to install
[19:32] gezza hm, i often use it, did not have problems so far
[19:32] davidgs And I deleted and re-installed, and get the same behaviour
[19:33] gezza in softacolous tiki install there is a field to set admin password
[19:33] gezza did you set there something?
[19:33] gezza which Tiki version is it?
[19:34] davidgs right. I used that to set it to a known password (failed) and then tried again leaving the default (also failed)
[19:34] davidgs version 12.4
[19:35] gezza let me try a new install, brb
[19:35] luciash sounds like .htaccess (redirect) problem to me
[19:36] luciash do you use the provider original .htaccess or did you enable the _htaccess provided by tiki ?
[19:36] davidgs I hadn't touched anything in the install directory
[19:38] luciash can you see a file .htaccess there? (with dot)
[19:39] luciash if not, then it must be something else
[19:40] gezza hm, i just did a fresh install on my softacoulus, Tiki12.4, set password to "admin"
[19:40] gezza it works fine, I can log in
[19:41] gezza Powered By Softaculous 4.6.4
[19:41] davidgs I just did a re-install ... same behaviour
[19:41] davidgs and there is an _htaccess but no .htaccess
[19:43] davidgs I DO have a .htaccess file in the sites main directory, but that only has a re-write rule to redirect http-->https
[19:44] davidgs feel free to take a look at mine ... http://psikick.org/tiki10
[19:47] davidgs Got it!! the redirect from http to https is the culprit. As soon as I turned that off, it started working again. But that's a huge problem for me ...
[19:49] jonnyb davidgs: you can set your tiki to use https and then it should be ok again (i think), once you've logged in
[19:51] davidgs seems as soon as I turn on the http-->https redirection in my top-level .htaccess the loginceases to function
[19:51] jonnyb on admin/login called "Use HTTPS login"
[19:51] jonnyb either that or override it in your tiki .htaccess and let tiki do it for you
[19:52] davidgs But that disables https for the rest of the site.
[19:54] jonnyb can't you do a similar redirect in your /tiki/.htaccess that disables it while leaving it on for the parent directory?
[19:56] davidgs So I had to turn re-direction off, then in the admin settings, chose "require https login" and then turn redirection back on and that seems to work. Non-obvious, for sure.
[19:57] jonnyb nice one, that's what i was trying to suggest, as you say, a bit obscure
[19:57] jonnyb wonder if we can add a note to the troubleshooting pages to help others?
[19:57] davidgs seems like if the installation is to a host using https then the login using https should be set on by default.
[19:58] jonnyb are you a coder? ;)
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[20:03] jonnyb bye for now, more tomorrow...
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[21:56] fabricius polom
[21:56] fabricius Hi davidgs
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[22:05] davidgs Hi fabricius. Yes, I solved the problem
[22:05] fabricius cool
[22:06] fabricius so a good hint to come here to the IRC?
[22:06] davidgs An excellent hint! we tracked it all down.
[22:07] davidgs very odd case. don't install on an https server. enable https AFTER you set "require https login" in the admin gui
[22:20] fabricius or temporarily set https off, then activate in tiki and then reactivate on the server?
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