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pedro_morgan: golang is the strategic decision, for goroutines and a compiled think with no silly "missing parts".. same "app logic", just a fifferent client o same db.....
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luciash: <u>pedro_morgan</u>: sorry, no idea what golang is :)
pedro_morgan: <u>luciash</u>: https://tour.golang.org/welcome/1
fabricius: a coding/programming language - what is the connection with Tiki pedro_morgan ?
pedro_morgan: I celebrated my 50th earlier this ear..
luciash: ah :) I guess I cannot wrap my head around it, sorry
pedro_morgan: And I got some tikiwiki's running.. and working sweet.. like this one http://anahata-retreat.org.nz/
luciash: (not crazy enough probably)
pedro_morgan: and also some tikiwiki on a "lan" with some manuals.. and alike.. and thanks to tiki tewam.. they are a reliable olde system.. and thanks all.....
luciash: cool
pedro_morgan: In concert I also write pyqt applications... = living.. as a db app/developer mainly python...
<br> So snag is that I'm now writing "API" with golang..
<br> So what I want to do is basically write a "golang" interface into tikiwiki, mainy to parse contents etc etc.. server side.....
<br> Simple stuff would be updating tikiwikki.. as a backend into the db.. (avoiding tikiwiki)... but a lot of the magix happens in tiki wiki..
luciash: fabricius might give you some hints about the existing Wiki/Jison parser maybe to not reinvent the wheel? It is called wikiLingo or something...
<br> I have no idea how it is supposed to work and barely nobody uses it in Tiki though so it seems to be destined for extinction in the end...
pedro_morgan: well the json interface is exactly what I am after.. a way to removely "enquire" from remote service=tw..
luciash: sorry, maybe it is totally unrelated: https://doc.tiki.org/wikiLingo
<br> probably not what you are looking for
<br> I did not mean json (jison != json)
pedro_morgan: quick question.. as I dive through php.. where is the "wiki parser" ??
luciash: lib/
<br> what Tiki version?
<br> lib/parser/parserlib.php
pedro_morgan: git ?
luciash: we are still struggling on it: https://dev.tiki.org/Wiki+Parser+Revamp
<br> nope, sf.net SVN repo
pedro_morgan: ok am into a challenge.. never writtena parser in my life.. but having a stab..........
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fabricius: <u>pedro_morgan</u>: still there?
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<br> polom
luciash: bolow
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<br> polom
chibaguy: polomagain
jonnyb: hi chibaguy - just did a little css fix, hope it was right :)
chibaguy: ah, ok, if it works, that's fine.
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chibaguy: There's a mix of styles in the Bootstrapified forms that probably should be fixed: when the label and input are in a row, sometimes the label is left-aligned, and sometimes right-aligned. Bootstrap docs and some best practices I've read say the labels should be right-aligned to make it clear which label is for which input.
<br> So there's minimal whitespace between the label and input. But this also makes a ragged left margin which looks messy to some people apparently.
<br> So we have some forms one way and some the other.
<br> Seems like they should be consistent. Any suggestions?
<br> I'll post it to the artwork list.
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jonnyb: sorry chibaguy - distraction(s)
<br> i'd go for following the bootstrap standard by default, others can override locally if they really need to imho
chibaguy: You don't mind the ragged left margin?
jonnyb: one nice one i've spotted in a similar vein is the size of the left (labels) "column" varying, particulalry for instance on the registration form with user tracker fields and captcha added, they're all different!
<br> no, right aligned for labels make sense to me
<br> https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php for example (of both things)
<br> i thnk it's the reg fields labels width that needs to be reduced from col-md-4 to col-md-3
<br> however the registration ones also have col-sm-3 so i got scared and ran away :)
chibaguy: Hmm, yeah, we should have a forms style guide.
<br> I made a page long ago about bootstrapifying forms but didn't suggest any widths.
<br> or grid classes
<br> I wonder what the thinking is regarding col-md-3 vs col-sm-3, etc. I need to do some more research.
jonnyb: i think leaving the tracker plugins ones alone would be best and make the reg ones match (and antibot)
chibaguy: Yeah, there's also the variability of the input field width.
jonnyb: and different * positions for the mandatory ones, it's a chewey one! :)
chibaguy: yep, well, I'll research and make a wiki page as a start.
<br> gotta take the dog out now. bbl.
luciash: I tend to agree.
<br> hi jonny :)
jonnyb: polom luciash
luciash: about your CSS fix I just wondered why it is limited to .col1 and not all the tables with .table-responsive class in all module zones too
jonnyb: yes, was wondering that too - but the commit before by chibaguy was deliberately only for the col1, it just only has some of the grid widths set
<br> also not really sure why the bootstrap definition isn't good enough ;)
chibaguy: ah, when we had just the bootstrap definition, the tables would run under the right column because the @media breakpoint was wider (.container width) than the column containing the table.
<br> It seems the Bootstrap rule assumes a table directly in the .container.
<br> Or anyway in some div the same width.
jonnyb: ah, fair enough, thanks chibaguy
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chibaguy: Of course simpler is better, so if things still display nicely after your simplification, that's good.
jonnyb: <u>fabricius</u>: are you about? just fixed the tracker country user pref field so https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php should now get a dropdown menu when it updates (to r55989+)
fabricius: cool jonnyb
jonnyb: seems tha Tiki-KGB isn't reportgin commits anymore? (or which ever one it was)
fabricius: ohh yes ... do you know who is in charge?
<br> actually I have to go off ... need to do some work out of the house (shouldn't be here at all at all now)
luciash: :)
jonnyb: It's Oliver, i'll email
<br> trouble is there are 3000+ items in there was mangled county values, so we'll need to fix them somehow...
<br> was/with
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<br> I posted about this to the forums, but it was suggested I come here. Can't login to my new installation. And it won't send a password reset email
gezza: hi davidgs
<br> the default password (admin) does not wok?
<br> work
davidgs: Nope. And I even went in to phpMyAdmin and ran UPDATE `users_users` SET `password`='admin', `hash`= md5('admin') WHERE `login`='admin'; with no luck
<br> And if I ask it to send an email, no email ever comes.
luciash: <u>davidgs</u>: anything in the logs? did you try if you fullfill all the requirements by going to tiki-check.php?
gezza: hm, strange, is it a local installation?
davidgs: No, it's on my hosting providers' box. and tiki-check.php says I don't have permission to use that feature since I'm not logged in
<br> Don't see anything in the server logs either.
gezza: ais it an autoinstaller like softacolous?
davidgs: yes, I used softaculous to install
gezza: hm, i often use it, did not have problems so far
davidgs: And I deleted and re-installed, and get the same behaviour
gezza: in softacolous tiki install there is a field to set admin password
<br> did you set there something?
<br> which Tiki version is it?
davidgs: right. I used that to set it to a known password (failed) and then tried again leaving the default (also failed)
<br> version 12.4
gezza: let me try a new install, brb
luciash: sounds like .htaccess (redirect) problem to me
<br> do you use the provider original .htaccess or did you enable the _htaccess provided by tiki ?
davidgs: I hadn't touched anything in the install directory
luciash: can you see a file .htaccess there? (with dot)
<br> if not, then it must be something else
gezza: hm, i just did a fresh install on my softacoulus, Tiki12.4, set password to "admin"
<br> it works fine, I can log in
<br> Powered By Softaculous 4.6.4
davidgs: I just did a re-install ... same behaviour
<br> and there is an _htaccess but no .htaccess
<br> I DO have a .htaccess file in the sites main directory, but that only has a re-write rule to redirect http-->https
<br> feel free to take a look at mine ... http://psikick.org/tiki10
<br> Got it!! the redirect from http to https is the culprit. As soon as I turned that off, it started working again. But that's a huge problem for me ...
jonnyb: <u>davidgs</u>: you can set your tiki to use https and then it should be ok again (i think), once you've logged in
davidgs: seems as soon as I turn on the http-->https redirection in my top-level .htaccess the loginceases to function
jonnyb: on admin/login called "Use HTTPS login"
<br> either that or override it in your tiki .htaccess and let tiki do it for you
davidgs: But that disables https for the rest of the site.
jonnyb: can't you do a similar redirect in your /tiki/.htaccess that disables it while leaving it on for the parent directory?
davidgs: So I had to turn re-direction off, then in the admin settings, chose "require https login" and then turn redirection back on and that seems to work. Non-obvious, for sure.
jonnyb: nice one, that's what i was trying to suggest, as you say, a bit obscure
<br> wonder if we can add a note to the troubleshooting pages to help others?
davidgs: seems like if the installation is to a host using https then the login using https should be set on by default.
jonnyb: are you a coder? ;)
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jonnyb: bye for now, more tomorrow...
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fabricius: polom
<br> Hi davidgs
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<br> Hi fabricius. Yes, I solved the problem
fabricius: cool
<br> so a good hint to come here to the IRC?
davidgs: An excellent hint! we tracked it all down.
<br> very odd case. don't install on an https server. enable https AFTER you set "require https login" in the admin gui
fabricius: or temporarily set https off, then activate in tiki and then reactivate on the server?
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