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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
New Forum Posts: Bootstrapping Best Practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56813
New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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fabriciuspolom
pedro_morgan hello
u looked for somebody yesterday - u r still here?
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EmenemsJyhem_laptop, svn version ? even for production ? [10:04]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
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New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
New Forum Posts: Bootstrapping Best Practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56813
New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
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New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
New Forum Posts: Bootstrapping Best Practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56813
New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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fabriciusfour times the same notifications ( for three variations of the sites domains) ... ist tsr
it is really annoying
can't we do anything about t,hat?
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chibaguyHi fabricius
I think if the multiple display of the forum posts can't be fixed, it should be turned off here.
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fabriciusHi chibaguy [13:22]
chibaguyBut I don't know why is in charge or who knows what to do.
why -> who
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fabriciuscaarrie is
but caarrie sais, it is the fault of Tiki, not the scripts fault
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
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New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
New Forum Posts: Bootstrapping Best Practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56813
New Forum Posts: Database upgrade from 13.1 to 14.0 fails with 'TikiDb_Exception' with message 'Unknown column 'pageSlug' in 'field list'' - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=56807
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chibaguyThat's right, so I don't know who on the Tiki side will handle this. [14:03]
fabriciusI did have a look, but I did not find a hook
maybe a bug or a missing part related to rss feeds
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chibaguyI had a look at tiki.org's feeds admin but didn't see anything to change there. [14:32]
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EmenemsHello :-) I was thinking : is there such thing as intermediate version ? like 10.1 ? [15:24]
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msaadEmenems: not sure, but I don't think so :) [15:39]
Emenemsmsaad, ok :-) so, as Jyhem_laptop was saying, it's better to use a daily snapshot, or the svn version, even in production ?
or at least have a "pre-production" with svn
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msaadEmenems: yes. But introduce changes with baby steps.
exactly
have a pre-production where you can merge incoming patches
see if it's all good.
merge to production
It's safer.
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Emenemsso.. i was also thinking : would it be possible to have multiple wikis (ie databases, files) with only one instance of the main code...
?
(im not sure if i'm clear)
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msaadYou want your production site to be connected to multiple DB's? [15:43]
EmenemsNo, several production sites, each one has its own DB, and its own configuration file(s), but the majority of the tiki code is the same for each site... hum [15:44]
msaadI'm sure there is a way to inter-connect them
chibaguy, amette, luciash ^ (you guys are way more experienced than I am)
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EmenemsLike hum... the Multisite possibilities in wordpress [15:45]
msaadEmenems: hopefully one of them will be able to help you out. I started contributing not a long ago hehehe :] [15:46]
Emenemsokok :)
you are already a big help
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chibaguyEmenems, there's the "MultiTiki" feature. https://doc.tiki.org/MultiTiki
hi msaad.
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msaadhi chibaguy :), thanks for your reply on the email. [15:47]
chibaguyOh, sure. [15:47]
msaadEmenems: Chibaguy for the win! +1 [15:48]
Emenemso/ [15:48]
chibaguyEmenems, with MultiTiki, you use one database and one set of files, but use perspectives to have the appearance of more than one domain. [15:48]
Emenemschibaguy, yes, looks like what i would use... i'll take alook :) [15:48]
chibaguySo you can have different themes, content, modules, etc. at one installation and one IP address. [15:50]
Emenemscool [15:50]
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chibaguyOh, actually looking at the doc page, I was thinking of a different feature than MultiTiki. With MultiTiki, you do have more than one database.
I was thinking of "multi-domain" feature - https://doc.tiki.org/Multi-domain
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chibaguyIn the case of multi-domain, there's just one database. [15:56]
msaadThe scary world of android fragmentation -> http://opensignal.com/reports/2014/android-fragmentation/ [15:57]
Emenemschibaguy, no, multitiki is ok for me. One set of files, but different configuration and DBs for different wiki. [16:00]
chibaguyOk :-). [16:00]
Emenemschibaguy, i will have different (separate) groups of students, and we offer a collaboration tool. [16:01]
chibaguyI see.
wow, msaad, that's a lot of android variations.
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msaadchibaguy: tell me about it. Look at the OS comparison. I love how apple just slams their stick on the table and say "You must update or you shall not have phone" whilst android goes like "Heyyy cutie, we have a new version , would you like to update?" [16:04]
chibaguyyep, apple's world is tightly controlled.
I was surprised that the next iOS version is supposed to be compatible with my iPhone 4s. I still haven't upgraded from iOS 6.
I'm not an apple fan especially, but when we got these phones, there was a lot of talk about malware on andriod at the time.
And it was a kind of family phone package upgrade.
Didn't want to be hassling with four phones' malware problems. ;-)
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msaadchibaguy: Yeah. I had the first iphone, then moved away from its strict environment.
I'm using an LG G3 now.. quite a phone (4k display yatta yatta yatta)
But yeah, android is finicky.
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chibaguyhi gezza [16:53]
gezzahi chibaguy
i was thinking about how join in with the documentation/decisions about the bootstrap standards for Tiki
do you have some workflow in mind about this?
i mean there is that dev page and the themes page
is there a vote needed about anything or just write down what seems best?
or we pick a best practice form?
put a screenshot and explain why these and those solutions are used
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chibaguyThere are some points that probably need a consensus on, so maybe a vote, such as label position. I'm not looking forward to that, really, because I know people have different preferences so I'm not sure how everyone will be happy/satisfied with the result.
Working towards a best practices for forms, probably we could start a tentative list of points (practices). And if anyone disagrees with or wants to modify a point, there can be a discussion.
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gezzaI think we should pick a form where we can demonstrate
eg: tiki-edit_article.tpl
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chibaguyYes, there needs to be probably more than one form, because we have several types in terms of layout, etc.
So several examples.
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gezzaright [17:31]
chibaguyI like how it is done on bootstrap's example page - you can see the implemented form and the code. [17:32]
gezzaso maybe first group them [17:32]
chibaguyYes, whatever makes sense. [17:32]
gezzadev or themes subsite? [17:33]
chibaguyThere's a https://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices, so I just made a https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices .
The templates page is way out of date.
But since this is info for devs, probably the devs site is best.
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gezzaok, I will add info there
thanks!
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chibaguyWe want to keep the page clear and free from discussion, I think, or maybe discussion is ok while the best practices are being decided, but the end result should be just a doc page, similar to Bootstrap's.
IMO
Maybe a second page linked to this one, like Forms Best Practices Discussion, to keep this page clean. ?
Anyway, time to take the dog out here. I'll be back in a while.
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gezzahi jonnyb [17:59]
jonnybhi gezza [17:59]
gezzadecided about the file upload? [18:00]
jonnybnot completely, was hoping for some more input - my feeling is to go for the jquery one
but composer.tiki.org is still being uncooperative ;)
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gezzaboth look good on the demo [18:01]
jonnybyes, but i think the jq one does a bit more, and the bootstrap one would be hard to backport into 12 if it's deemed a good idea [18:02]
gezzabut the devil hides in the details - mirror translation from hungarian :)
sure you want to backport?
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jonnybnot me particularly
luciash was also looking into it some more i think?
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I added a rough outline of possible content. [18:20]
jonnybpolom chibaguy
on https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices do you mean?
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chibaguyhi jonnyb
yep
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jonnybthanks :)
jonnyb wonders how we could make this all "optional"
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jonnyb, do you mean the form practices?
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jonnybyes, only kidding really - think it would be impractical
but was sort of thinking about how the tracker fields have a same row option (sometimes)
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chibaguy_Well, the forms could be all over the park, but I'm not sure how good the user experience would be. ;-) [18:32]
jonnybi was thinking of a pref for stacked or grid forms and some sort of css fix that changes it globally - probably a nightmare [18:33]
chibaguy_I imagine trackers are a special case, since they're being created for various purposes that maybe can't be anticipated. [18:33]
jonnybindeed [18:33]
chibaguy_The Tiki admin pages are a more stable set. [18:33]
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gezzajonnyb: for trackers custom wishes would be solved having a form builder [18:39]
jonnyb:D [18:39]
gezzathat we will do after the UUID thing :)
so I would not worry about tracker layout
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
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New Forum Posts: slideshow/coursel/slider plugin with fade option? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56814
New Forum Posts: Bootstrapping Best Practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=56813
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pedro_morganhey any hardocre tikwiki devs here.... [23:21]
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