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[09:19] fabricius polom
[09:20] fabricius pedro_morgan hello
[09:21] fabricius u looked for somebody yesterday - u r still here?
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[10:04] Emenems Jyhem_laptop, svn version ? even for production ?
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[12:44] fabricius four times the same notifications ( for three variations of the sites domains) ... ist tsr
[12:44] fabricius it is really annoying
[12:44] fabricius can't we do anything about t,hat?
[13:21] chibaguy Hi fabricius
[13:22] chibaguy I think if the multiple display of the forum posts can't be fixed, it should be turned off here.
[13:22] fabricius Hi chibaguy
[13:22] chibaguy But I don't know why is in charge or who knows what to do.
[13:22] chibaguy why -> who
[13:40] fabricius caarrie is
[13:40] fabricius but caarrie sais, it is the fault of Tiki, not the scripts fault
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[14:03] chibaguy That's right, so I don't know who on the Tiki side will handle this.
[14:14] fabricius I did have a look, but I did not find a hook
[14:14] fabricius maybe a bug or a missing part related to rss feeds
[14:32] chibaguy I had a look at tiki.org's feeds admin but didn't see anything to change there.
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[15:24] Emenems Hello :-) I was thinking : is there such thing as intermediate version ? like 10.1 ?
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[15:39] msaad Emenems: not sure, but I don't think so :)
[15:40] Emenems msaad, ok :-) so, as Jyhem_laptop was saying, it's better to use a daily snapshot, or the svn version, even in production ?
[15:41] Emenems or at least have a "pre-production" with svn
[15:41] msaad Emenems: yes. But introduce changes with baby steps.
[15:41] msaad exactly
[15:41] msaad have a pre-production where you can merge incoming patches
[15:41] msaad see if it's all good.
[15:41] msaad merge to production
[15:41] msaad It's safer.
[15:42] Emenems so.. i was also thinking : would it be possible to have multiple wikis (ie databases, files) with only one instance of the main code...
[15:42] Emenems ?
[15:42] Emenems (im not sure if i'm clear)
[15:43] msaad You want your production site to be connected to multiple DB's?
[15:44] Emenems No, several production sites, each one has its own DB, and its own configuration file(s), but the majority of the tiki code is the same for each site... hum
[15:44] msaad I'm sure there is a way to inter-connect them
[15:45] msaad chibaguy, amette, luciash ^ (you guys are way more experienced than I am)
[15:45] Emenems Like hum... the Multisite possibilities in wordpress
[15:46] msaad Emenems: hopefully one of them will be able to help you out. I started contributing not a long ago hehehe :]
[15:46] Emenems okok :)
[15:46] Emenems you are already a big help
[15:47] chibaguy Emenems, there's the "MultiTiki" feature. https://doc.tiki.org/MultiTiki
[15:47] chibaguy hi msaad.
[15:47] msaad hi chibaguy :), thanks for your reply on the email.
[15:47] chibaguy Oh, sure.
[15:48] msaad Emenems: Chibaguy for the win! +1
[15:48] Emenems \o/
[15:48] chibaguy Emenems, with MultiTiki, you use one database and one set of files, but use perspectives to have the appearance of more than one domain.
[15:48] Emenems chibaguy, yes, looks like what i would use... i'll take alook :)
[15:50] chibaguy So you can have different themes, content, modules, etc. at one installation and one IP address.
[15:50] Emenems cool
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[15:54] chibaguy Oh, actually looking at the doc page, I was thinking of a different feature than MultiTiki. With MultiTiki, you do have more than one database.
[15:56] chibaguy I was thinking of "multi-domain" feature - https://doc.tiki.org/Multi-domain
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[15:56] chibaguy In the case of multi-domain, there's just one database.
[15:57] msaad The scary world of android fragmentation -> http://opensignal.com/reports/2014/android-fragmentation/
[16:00] Emenems chibaguy, no, multitiki is ok for me. One set of files, but different configuration and DBs for different wiki.
[16:00] chibaguy Ok :-).
[16:01] Emenems chibaguy, i will have different (separate) groups of students, and we offer a collaboration tool.
[16:01] chibaguy I see.
[16:03] chibaguy wow, msaad, that's a lot of android variations.
[16:04] msaad chibaguy: tell me about it. Look at the OS comparison. I love how apple just slams their stick on the table and say "You must update or you shall not have phone" whilst android goes like "Heyyy cutie, we have a new version , would you like to update?"
[16:05] chibaguy yep, apple's world is tightly controlled.
[16:06] chibaguy I was surprised that the next iOS version is supposed to be compatible with my iPhone 4s. I still haven't upgraded from iOS 6.
[16:08] chibaguy I'm not an apple fan especially, but when we got these phones, there was a lot of talk about malware on andriod at the time.
[16:08] chibaguy And it was a kind of family phone package upgrade.
[16:09] chibaguy Didn't want to be hassling with four phones' malware problems. ;-)
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[16:26] msaad chibaguy: Yeah. I had the first iphone, then moved away from its strict environment.
[16:26] msaad I'm using an LG G3 now.. quite a phone (4k display yatta yatta yatta)
[16:26] msaad But yeah, android is finicky.
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[16:52] gezza polom
[16:53] chibaguy hi gezza
[16:56] gezza hi chibaguy
[16:57] gezza i was thinking about how join in with the documentation/decisions about the bootstrap standards for Tiki
[16:57] gezza do you have some workflow in mind about this?
[16:57] gezza i mean there is that dev page and the themes page
[16:58] gezza is there a vote needed about anything or just write down what seems best?
[16:59] gezza or we pick a best practice form?
[17:00] gezza put a screenshot and explain why these and those solutions are used
[17:26] chibaguy There are some points that probably need a consensus on, so maybe a vote, such as label position. I'm not looking forward to that, really, because I know people have different preferences so I'm not sure how everyone will be happy/satisfied with the result.
[17:28] chibaguy Working towards a best practices for forms, probably we could start a tentative list of points (practices). And if anyone disagrees with or wants to modify a point, there can be a discussion.
[17:30] gezza I think we should pick a form where we can demonstrate
[17:31] gezza eg: tiki-edit_article.tpl
[17:31] chibaguy Yes, there needs to be probably more than one form, because we have several types in terms of layout, etc.
[17:31] chibaguy So several examples.
[17:31] gezza right
[17:32] chibaguy I like how it is done on bootstrap's example page - you can see the implemented form and the code.
[17:32] gezza so maybe first group them
[17:32] chibaguy Yes, whatever makes sense.
[17:33] gezza dev or themes subsite?
[17:38] chibaguy There's a https://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices, so I just made a https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices .
[17:38] chibaguy The templates page is way out of date.
[17:39] chibaguy But since this is info for devs, probably the devs site is best.
[17:39] gezza ok, I will add info there
[17:39] gezza thanks!
[17:40] chibaguy We want to keep the page clear and free from discussion, I think, or maybe discussion is ok while the best practices are being decided, but the end result should be just a doc page, similar to Bootstrap's.
[17:40] chibaguy IMO
[17:41] chibaguy Maybe a second page linked to this one, like Forms Best Practices Discussion, to keep this page clean. ?
[17:41] chibaguy Anyway, time to take the dog out here. I'll be back in a while.
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[17:54] jonnyb polom
[17:59] gezza hi jonnyb
[17:59] jonnyb hi gezza
[18:00] gezza decided about the file upload?
[18:00] jonnyb not completely, was hoping for some more input - my feeling is to go for the jquery one
[18:01] jonnyb but composer.tiki.org is still being uncooperative ;)
[18:01] gezza both look good on the demo
[18:02] jonnyb yes, but i think the jq one does a bit more, and the bootstrap one would be hard to backport into 12 if it's deemed a good idea
[18:02] gezza but the devil hides in the details - mirror translation from hungarian :)
[18:04] gezza sure you want to backport?
[18:05] jonnyb not me particularly
[18:05] jonnyb luciash was also looking into it some more i think?
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[18:20] chibaguy I added a rough outline of possible content.
[18:27] jonnyb polom chibaguy
[18:28] jonnyb on https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices do you mean?
[18:28] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[18:28] chibaguy yep
[18:28] jonnyb thanks :)
[18:29] * jonnyb wonders how we could make this all "optional"
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[18:31] chibaguy_ jonnyb, do you mean the form practices?
[18:31] jonnyb yes, only kidding really - think it would be impractical
[18:32] jonnyb but was sort of thinking about how the tracker fields have a same row option (sometimes)
[18:32] chibaguy_ Well, the forms could be all over the park, but I'm not sure how good the user experience would be. ;-)
[18:33] jonnyb i was thinking of a pref for stacked or grid forms and some sort of css fix that changes it globally - probably a nightmare
[18:33] chibaguy_ I imagine trackers are a special case, since they're being created for various purposes that maybe can't be anticipated.
[18:33] jonnyb indeed
[18:33] chibaguy_ The Tiki admin pages are a more stable set.
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[18:39] gezza jonnyb: for trackers custom wishes would be solved having a form builder
[18:39] jonnyb :D
[18:39] gezza that we will do after the UUID thing :)
[18:40] gezza so I would not worry about tracker layout
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[23:21] pedro_morgan hey any hardocre tikwiki devs here....
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