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[11:30] nelsonko amette, jyhem hi
[11:32] nelsonko ok
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[12:30] Jyhem nelsonko, fabricius1 : hi. Leaving home now :-)
[12:31] nelsonko Jyhem: hello. Amette just mailed me to say he is going for a workout - will be back in bat 90 min
[12:31] nelsonko Jyhem: do you know of room situation in base camp?
[12:33] Jyhem no, I just now where to go, and that's my plan currently
[12:33] * Jyhem going offline now
[12:34] nelsonko alright, till later Jyhem
[12:34] * Jyhem 's computer still logging but no human :-)
[14:23] amette polom
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[14:31] nelsonko polom amette
[14:31] amette hi nelsonko :)
[14:32] amette I'm just reading the wiki page, trying to grasp the issue.
[14:39] amette So, yeah, I think I get it and yes, I think that script should move.
[14:42] nelsonko amette, so sync2git is a script that is right now on ovh, at /usr/local/bin/sync2git
[14:43] nelsonko it's this https://github.com/dpocock/sync2git
[14:43] nelsonko but I have a feeling we don't have the latest
[14:43] amette It just needs cron there to run, right? And then it connects to sf.net and github.com.
[14:43] amette Should I try to upgrade and move to one of the amse-servers?
[14:44] nelsonko it needs configurations in /etc/sync2git
[14:45] nelsonko there are 2 configs there right now, check them out, pretty simple
[14:45] nelsonko then when it runs, it checks if there is already a git version locally of the svn repo
[14:46] nelsonko it stores those in /var/lib/sync2git
[14:46] nelsonko to avoid having to recreate them (takes a long time), you should copy those too when migrating
[14:47] amette Ok, sounds good, there's a project for me.
[14:47] nelsonko if it's there, it simply updates them from SVN if there are any new commits
[14:47] amette I think amse4 might be a good fit for this as there's nothing too resource-critical.
[14:47] nelsonko The problem with the authors.txt file is....
[14:48] nelsonko it was generated using a variant of https://github.com/dpocock/sync2git/blob/master/svn-authors-extract
[14:48] nelsonko I have put in under /usr/local/bin/svn-authors-extract
[14:48] nelsonko the basic version simply generates a file and does not replace it if it already exists
[14:49] amette Ah, I see.
[14:49] amette Have you sent a pull-request?
[14:50] nelsonko no, I was editing it locally
[14:51] amette ok, I'll get it from there
[14:51] nelsonko Later on, when we migrate to GIT proper, we should have an authors.txt that contains real names and email addresses
[14:51] nelsonko that matches GIT account emails
[14:52] amette yes, that sounds rather necessary
[14:52] nelsonko that way proper credit is given to past commiters
[14:52] nelsonko I have added to https://dev.tiki.org/What+ToDo+When+Migrating+To+Git a link to http://danielpocock.com/checking-authors.txt-before-migrating-to-github
[14:52] nelsonko which explains it quite well
[14:53] amette cool
[14:53] nelsonko But for our current mirror we are just generating pretty boring authors.txt, check it out
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[14:54] nelsonko I think I am pretty poor at trying to edit svn-authors-extract to do what I want (bash is not my strong suit )
[14:55] nelsonko I'm trying to make it save authors.txt.new instead of simply exiting when authors.txt exist
[14:55] nelsonko and then file compare authors.txt and authors.txt.new
[14:55] nelsonko if authors.txt.new has more lines then it should replace authors.txt
[14:55] nelsonko That way we can run this eveytime before running sync2git
[14:57] amette Right, I see. How about using "wc -l"?
[14:58] nelsonko almost there, give me 5 min
[14:59] amette no worries, I'll have to make a plan for installing on amse4
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[15:18] nelsonko amette:
[15:18] nelsonko OLD_LINES=$(wc -l "${OLD_DEST_FILE}")
[15:18] nelsonko NEW_LINES=$(wc -l "${DEST_FILE}")
[15:18] nelsonko if [ ${OLD_LINES} -eq ${NEW_LINES} ];
[15:18] nelsonko what's wrong with this?
[15:18] amette The last semicolon?
[15:19] nelsonko line 37: [: too many arguments
[15:20] nelsonko oh I suppose i need to make it integer
[15:20] amette first thing: use "cat $OLD_DEST_FILE | wc -l" or you'll get the filename in there
[15:21] amette I think that's it... so yeah: make it integer so to say.
[15:23] nelsonko ok I think I got it now
[15:23] amette cool
[15:24] amette I'm almost done with copying over stuff.
[15:24] nelsonko now to make this run before running sync2git
[15:24] * msaad gets jealous because of bash. Wishes he knew bash.
[15:25] nelsonko I don't really want to edit sync2git because if someone replaces it (trying to upgrade?) it will wipe out ocal changes
[15:25] amette Don't we just put it in front of the cron job?
[15:26] nelsonko ok.that will work
[15:27] nelsonko let me make more changes to it to loop through the projects folder
[15:28] amette ok, I'll be resizing amse4 disks or something to fit the temp-repo on it
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[15:30] chibaguy polom
[15:33] amette heya chibaguy
[15:33] chibaguy hi amette
[15:40] nelsonko amette: I have renamed svn-authors-extract sf--svn-authors-extract to avoid confusion with the file that is in the upstream project
[15:41] amette ok, maybe even call it tiki-svn-authors-extract
[15:42] nelsonko ok I'll rename it that
[15:43] amette and I now managed to get the svn-repo copied over.. only took tikinew, then it fit
[15:43] nelsonko what do you mean "fit"?
[15:44] amette sizewise on the disk
[15:44] amette and I renamed it to tiki
[15:45] nelsonko should I reactivate the cron job on ovh?
[15:45] nelsonko or not
[15:46] amette no, we can run it on amse4 now, right?
[15:46] nelsonko right
[15:46] amette where was the cronjob?
[15:46] amette found it
[15:46] nelsonko I haven't added tiki-svn-authors-extract yt
[15:46] nelsonko you can add that
[15:47] amette ok, I just copied it over
[15:49] nelsonko an y clue if there is a usual tiki roundtable meeting today?
[15:49] amette hmm, no idea
[15:49] amette I'm now running the scripts manually for testing...
[15:49] amette ... don't we need to add an ssh-key to tikiorg@github to be able to commit?
[15:50] nelsonko yeah, something like that
[15:51] nelsonko right now it's using changi's account
[15:51] nelsonko I don't see where the credentials are saved though...
[15:51] nelsonko Maybe it is authenticating using a key that is attached to his account or something like that
[15:52] amette Yes, I'm quite sure that it's an ssh key.
[15:52] nelsonko let me add you as admin to tikiorg github account...
[15:52] amette ok
[15:54] nelsonko that github migration blog post probably has some idea how to mass migrate svn  users to match github accounts
[15:54] nelsonko (but we need the email addresses probably)
[15:57] amette Hmmm, yes, that will be a bit of manual work.
[15:57] amette Also I think we can use the occasion to remove the people that were forced into becoming committers (i.e. those that never committed even once).
[15:59] nelsonko hmm roundtable time is 2000 CEST right?
[16:00] nelsonko I'm trying to see it's a good chance to have one of the scheduled discussions (abt GIT process perhaps) connected live to tikifest
[16:01] amette Yes, that would be a good thing actually.
[16:02] nelsonko have you guys got beers at the base camp?
[16:02] nelsonko (just in case you were planning on going out...)
[16:02] amette Yeah, we can get some from the reception.
[16:03] nelsonko perhaps should wait for JM to arrive before announcing
[16:03] amette Yeah, good idea maybe. ;)
[16:03] amette He's on an immobile train somewhere in Germany... no new ETA yet.
[16:07] nelsonko amette: are you thinking of  stopping the syncing of changi's tiki mirror?
[16:07] amette Good point, I just took it out.
[16:07] amette it's /etc/cron.d/tiki - nothing else to take care of, right?
[16:08] nelsonko righ
[16:09] nelsonko now we just need to wait for a new commit to tell if it works on amse4 right?
[16:11] amette still setting it up, but looks good so far
[16:11] * amette is a bit concerned about sync2git logging something about deleting branches....?!
[16:12] nelsonko on amse4?
[16:12] amette yep
[16:12] amette but seems to be happening in the temporary git-checkout
[16:13] * amette taking care of the commit-rights on github.com now
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[16:22] amette hmmm.... to do this properly, we will have to create a dedicated account for this on github... otherwise it will be using my account, which is ok, but means handing over my github-identity to anyone having access to amse4
[16:23] amette not fully, I think.. as with the key people can't change my account, but they can commit in my name
[16:25] amette trying with my key now first
[16:26] amette ok, that worked, "Everything up-to-date" it claims... so now we wait for a commit to svn :)
[16:27] * amette will meanwhile go to the toilet, get another tea and think about creating an account for this
[16:35] msaad hope you don't go to the toilet to get some tea :P
[16:36] amette no, the toilet is just for the thinking. ;P
[16:41] msaad ahahahah glad we cleared that out ;D
[16:42] amette :)
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[16:50] amette Feels like an awful lot of overhead to create an account with a dedicated e-mail address like github@tiki.org just for this... better ideas are welcome!
[16:51] amette We'll have a break now, go shop some food at the grocery store and continue later.
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[19:25] amette nelsonko: we're back, that was a bit of a mission
[19:26] amette looks like we'll sit outside and enjoy the last rays of sun though while waiting for the others to arrive
[19:28] nelsonko amette: cool
[19:48] refizul an email address for github? sounds good :-)
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[20:34] refizul fabricius has quit 20:32 CEST - WTF?
[20:35] refizul Does this mean he's starting *now*?
[20:35] refizul so ETA 0100 CEST?
[20:36] refizul I cannot believe that...
[20:37] amette refizul: had sms from jyhem, he should be here any time soon as far as I understood
[20:37] refizul J.-M. is held hostage by German train service ;-)
[20:38] amette (sms were from a while ago, 20 min or so)
[20:38] amette yeah, one thing German railways is famous for. ;)
[20:38] refizul They are advised to keep als refugees from France ;-)
[20:39] refizul all, not als
[20:39] amette hrhr, yeah, and indeed fabricius is starting about now
[20:39] amette that's how I would interpret that
[20:40] refizul really? that's my guess, but I hoped it to be a joke.
[20:40] refizul That would make it to be 30 hours late.
[20:41] amette nice round number
[20:41] refizul Let's watch Star Wars - Threads Of Destiny
[20:41] amette and one of these days it had to become more than 1d
[20:41] amette Operation Wurstbrot running nicely btw
[20:42] refizul LOL
[20:42] refizul when admins go crazy... how to translate Wurstbrot into English?
[20:43] amette eeehm... sausage sandwich?! :P
[20:44] refizul sausage is what you use for hot dog, isn't it? What is a slice of ... called?
[20:46] amette sausage?
[20:47] refizul dict.cc says: sliced (German) sausage sandwich
[20:48] amette qed *g*
[20:48] refizul but this does not inckude liverwurst / liver sausage
[20:48] refizul include
[20:48] amette anyways: "sauasge sandwich is now a member of Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware!" as github would like to point out :P
[20:50] amette nelsonko: https://github.com/tikisvn2git will be taking care of syncing the repos
[20:59] nelsonko amette: nice
[21:03] nelsonko amette, refizul, how is the room situation at base camp? I mean are you still dependent on fabricius to bring the tent?
[21:19] refizul one hostage is free now
[21:19] refizul J.-M. arrived :-)
[21:20] refizul nelsonko: no tent, we'll be able to have the rooms all nights for four persons
[21:20] nelsonko refizul, oh perfect even for Sat?
[21:21] refizul nelsonko: yes, as fat as I understood. We left our sleeping bags at home.
[21:21] refizul as far
[21:22] refizul new problems...
[21:22] nelsonko refizul: you are at base camp right? so the person there must be able to confirm right?
[21:23] refizul we are at basecamp, and we were told to have all nights
[21:23] refizul one bed is folded up und it won't get down...
[21:24] nelsonko refizul: lol, must be fixable
[21:24] refizul yes, shouls be, we need a small tool from the staff
[21:25] refizul wouldn't need one if amette was a Jedi ;-)
[21:26] refizul only one missing now - a TikiFest never to be forgotten
[21:27] refizul If I had a beamer I could show some movies to the folks here
[21:34] amette all good, Jean-Marc and his bed have landed
[21:53] amette We just came up with this, so here's for all the other ThinkPad fans, too: http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-time-to-think <- links to the surveys in there, still possible to vote. ;)
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[22:04] amette is there a bbb-hangout scheduled for now?
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[22:52] nelsonko gtg zoo, catch you tomorrow
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