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luciashpolom
any pics from the FrOSCon TikiFest ?
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Emenemsquestion... in /tiki-objectpermissions.php is there something to control the "creation of pages" ?
i don't find :/
bonjour :)
btw
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Jyhembonjour Emenems It's tiki_p_edit
creation and edition is the same
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fidel_hey - is it possible to link to categories - like i am linking to internal pages aswell?
or are they only identified by id?
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EmenemsJyhem, ok :-)
"If you are storing your files in the database, you need to check this MySQL variable:" <-- how do i know that ? :-D
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WTF.
Tiki broke. It keeps going on the installer
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JyhemEmenems: apache error logs ? [15:23]
EmenemsJyhem, nothing :-( [15:24]
Jyhemfidel_: mostly, they are identified by id. What do you call "link to categories"? [15:24]
EmenemsJyhem, is there an automatic update ? [15:25]
JyhemNo, no automatic updates
apache or nginx ?
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EmenemsJyhem, i found ! problem with mysql reloading ^^ But tiki was acting like "there is no installation".. and not like "can not connnect database"..
now i need to understand why i can not upload files ^^
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JyhemYes, that error-handling has been bugging me since that part of the code went from "spagetti-code" to "proper error-handling with exceptions". We seem to have lost some detail in handling various errors in more varied ways :-(
there are many ways of not being able to upload files… ^^
are they stored in database of file system ?
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EmenemsJyhem, good question :-)
Jyhem, it's the default setting. I did not change something
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Jyhemthen presumably in database [15:35]
EmenemsJyhem, in databse.
i found the setting.
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JyhemHave you had a look at tiki-check.php ? [15:35]
Emenemsbetter in database ? or as a file ? [15:35]
Jyhemfilesystem makes more sense. Except on cloud-based VMs or on limited hosting with no access to filesystem [15:37]
EmenemsJyhem, ok tiki -check.. i need to take a closer look ^^
ok thx
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Jyhemjust don't forget to back it up :) [15:37]
EmenemsJyhem, ok.. i switch to file system. But i still can not upload... i take a look at the system a keep you updated
I have a notice
PHP (5.5.9-1ubuntu4.11) NOTICE (E_NOTICE):
File: lib/smarty_tiki/block.title.php
Line: 62
Type: Undefined variable: class
i don't know if it's "important"
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Jyhemunimportant. just a notice for coders [15:43]
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EmenemsJyhem, to upload a file, a "gallery" is mandatory ? [16:04]
JyhemYes
You already have a root gallery, but that is where they go
so I guess "no", no need to create one but you really should if you don't want everything in the root
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msaadtiki-notepad_read.php has to be the worst form UI so far. [16:09]
Jyhemthat one must be nearly 10 years old and unused/unmaintained [16:10]
EmenemsJyhem, the idea is to use categories [16:10]
JyhemEmenems: then you need file galleries and you categorize the file galleries [16:11]
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Emenemsah [16:13]
msaadjonnyb: glad you're here :p. Would like to check with you, if by any chance you know which components we are not maintaining anymore / should be announced as deprecated. I'd like to start a thread about what to do with them :) [16:14]
jonnybhi msaad
there is a list somewhere that probably needs updating... 1 mo
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Jyhemhi Jonny [16:15]
jonnybhi Jyhem
https://dev.tiki.org/Endangered+features would probably be a good place to start msaad
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msaadThanks jonnyb!
most of it dates back from 5x 6x :O
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EmenemsQuiz for example ?
well.
Quiz is "experimental" :-) is it "endangered" ?
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msaadNope. experimental is something quite new, may be unstable or not tested throughly. [16:21]
jonnybit's very hard and scary getting rid of stuff from tiki - good thing to do at a TikiFest when there is safety and confidence in numbers! :) [16:21]
msaadendangered is on the other end, where it had a good life but may not be needed anymore due to replacements. [16:21]
jonnybquiz is old and probbly should be described as neglected or deprecated [16:22]
msaadjonnyb: indeed, it must involve people who are well versed in tiki.. what bothers me the most right now is that we have tons of functionalities, but I couldn't find any visual signs or deprecation announcements on releases.
I would like to handle that in a better way =)
like when we were talking about galleries..
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EmenemsMaybe... you could have a "survey" on the tiki website main page (or somewhere else) to ask "what feature do you *actually* use" .. [16:23]
msaad(image galleries) [16:25]
Emenemsok.. zen
Jyhem, update on tiki files!!! ... Remember, i tried the multisite and i'm using svn. i MUST create a gallery to upload files, even if i don't use it (and use the main gallery).
More : I choose "use file system" to store files.. and the file go anyway in database :-D
I'll check is it's linked to multitiki
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jonnybEmenems: i find file galleries work fine in the file system on multitiki sites for me, at least i haven't ever noticed a problem [16:28]
Jyhemmaybe there is a need for "clear all caches" ?
«i MUST create a gallery to upload files, even if i don't use it (and use the main gallery)». I can't decide if it's «a bug» or if it's «enforcing good practices»
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EmenemsJyhem, :-D
Jyhem, ok for clear all caches. I will try again on the other instance. About "creating a gallery..." ...
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Jyhemalso, make sure you use «file galleries» and not the old «image galleries» feature (which also has a "store to disk" option) [16:34]
EmenemsJyhem, in my use case, ..
Jyhem, ok... hum. so:
Jyhem, When someone upload a file, it must choose the "category". If i can "hide" this selection, then it's ok. Because when the user upload it can choose the gallery.
Then i can attach a gallery to a category.
The other option is "the user upload a file in the root gallery and select the category"
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JyhemEmenems: yes, I also feel this category selection thing should go away from file uploads. :-( I even wonder if it does something useful
jonnyb: are you using the category selection thing from file uploads?
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EmenemsJyhem, well... when i (as a user) choose to see a category, i see "pages" and "files"..
Jyhem, if i MUST use "gallery" then I will see "pages" and "galleries" then only when cliking on galleries, i see files.
More: i need to create 20 galleries, like my 20 categories.
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Jyhemhmm, maybe I think in terms of filesystems too much [16:49]
jonnybsry, phone [16:50]
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EmenemsJyhem, ok.. :) so.. when i delete the file... the file is still on the file system :)
Jyhem, i have /var/www/tiki/files then "normally" subdirectories for multiki. but all files are in tiki/files
ok.. i'll check later
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JyhemI have zero experience with multitiki :-(
Jyhem needs to get afk, then needs to focus on a preprod → prod migration.
(and yes, I noticed it is friday)
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msaadJyhem: Golden rule, never deploy on friday hahahahahahaha [17:08]
jonnybok, back - definitely Friday :)
Jyhem: to answer your previous question, categorising files when i upload, almost only for testing - most people don't even know it's there
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Guest27494Coming to tikiwiki as a newbie can anyone share a resource for configuring the permisions, I am slowly adding and removing to test access, would be easier if their was more documentation, thks [17:39]
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jonnybhi Guest27494 - have you looked at https://doc.tiki.org/Permissions ?
also http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/tiki-index.php?page=Configuring+Group+Permissionsmight be useful
gottagomorelatersoon!
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Guest27494Thanks for the responces, Brian [19:47]
fabriciuspolom
Guest27494: just saw you
hi Guest27494
Brian, right?
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Guest27494Correct, We are just no starting to work with this product.
confussion on assign permissions that limit different groups to work within just their areas
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luciashamette: Jyhem: any pics from the latest TikiFest?
e.g. pic of the booth maybe? ;)
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