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Jyhemwhoever remains, have a good night. It's 2am and I need some sleep.
the show script is somewhere near half-way. I'll get back to it tomorrow end of afternoon
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Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57227 10branches/6.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 6.15
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Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57232 10branches/9.x/README * [REL] Update README file for 9.11
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New Forum Posts: Using TRACKERLIST within wiki template page - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58072
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New Forum Posts: Blank page problem again, with a temporary quick fix, but unfortunately not stable. - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58073
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New Forum Posts: Trying to create short answer quiz that can only be taken once - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=58074
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Trying to create short answer quiz that can only be taken once - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=58074
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New Forum Posts: Trying to create short answer quiz that can only be taken once - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=58074
New Forum Posts: Blank page problem again, with a temporary quick fix, but unfortunately not stable. - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58073
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nelsonkopolom jonnyb, not sure if Jyhem is back from lunch yet [14:29]
jonnybHi nelsonko - considering it's France i would guess not ;) [14:29]
nelsonkowhat is your mac php version btw?
(I replied to the composer bug report about the certificate issue we faced yesterday but not sure abt your php verison.
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jonnybyes, just saw that - thanks, checking the bug report too
that's odd - i have php 5.5.30 burt thought i have 5.6 (for ages)
jonnyb thinks it must have been a dream
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nelsonkook updated my comment
perhaps you have a different version for web vs CLI? (but otherwise it's a dream lol)
btw I am thinking whether I should regenerate the copyright.txt for tiki 6 and retag
[14:32]
jonnybno, both 5.5.30 - will try 5.6 one day :)
well, all the copyright notices are technically out of date now, i wouldn't bother
it's past it's enf of life andway
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nelsonkook I'll leave it
what bat tiki 9, it generates 314 members on SourceForge.net, 314 of those people who made at least one code commit , better but still weird.
I still haven't tagged yet
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jonnybi think svn updates have made parts of that script break
Jyhem and i did some fixes in 14 & trunk last time we looked into it
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nelsonkobecause for tiki 14 it looks fine :) [14:39]
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nelsonkotiki 12 not so bas, but not if I use the mirror (using without mirror is ok)
I don't think it's worth time fixing - I'll just tag and generate proper packages for tiki 9.
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jonnybyes, there was something in there about whether it's a file:// url or http - think we changed it several ways but not sure it's not 100%
great, i agree - if we had more time/people/etc maybe but this just needs to get done
a new comment just appeared on https://github.com/composer/composer/issues/4782 - looks like a fix maybe
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nelsonkoperhaps, are you able to confirm? I'll try too [14:43]
jonnybchecking
perfect, now running fine on my clean install
updated to version 8375af268c57894055be351e2326e757c26eafcb
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nelsonkoworking here too [14:45]
jonnybi said "wait until tomorrow" and it would work! :) [14:45]
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and jonnyb: as for Tiki 12 vendor/smarty/smarty/distribution/libs/Smarty.class.php vs vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php confusion, I checked my local tiki 12 an it used to point at distribution
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jonnybSo i take it the new tarballs are only on release.t.o so far?
Yes, the smarty path changed at some point and maybe some backports got muddled...
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nelsonkoright - new tar balls are only on release.t.o so far [14:56]
Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57240 03tags/9.11 * [REL] Tagging release [14:58]
nelsonkojonnyb: looking at r56799
"Another attempt as getting composer to run properly in 12.x - seems ok to me but you may need to delete vendors/smarty and rerun composer install"
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jonnybjonnyb looks
https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/56799 looks different to me
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nelsonkohttp://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/56798 sorry
wait
that was earlier, and then http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/56806
so it looks to me like we settled on the new location for smarty...
right? (I will change the release script as it has the path hardcoded there) and I did a grep it's the only place where it's hardcoded, I think everywhere else in tiki it autoloads
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jonnybah, ok - sounds good, thanks [15:12]
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Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57242 10branches/12.x/changelog.txt * [REL] Update changelog.txt for 12.5 [15:18]
jonnybnelsonko: while we're on this (and if there's any "spare" time) it would be really good to get the incremental release script working again - i think it's doc/devtools/tikireleasediff.sh [15:19]
nelsonkowell I don't have any spare time till tikifest, and I got to leave soon [15:19]
Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57243 10branches/12.x/copyright.txt * [REL] Update copyright.txt for 12.5 [15:20]
nelsonkoCould you assist in creating the release notes pages for the various versions? [15:20]
jonnybyes, me too - just a "nice to have again" thing :)
am downloading the bz2 tarballs for a quick check
tested tiki-6.15.tar.bz2 - unpacked and setup ok, upgrade seems to go ok
logged in, saved a page, all good :)
same for tiki-9.11.tar.bz2
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nelsonkotiki12 on the way [15:28]
jonnybjust seen 12.5 appear :) [15:28]
Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57244 03branches/12.x/db/tiki-secdb_12.5_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 12.5
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nelsonkook zipping complete [15:32]
jonnybthanks - will also test ~/tikipack/12.5/tiki-12.5.tar.bz2 [15:32]
nelsonkoI'm working on 14 now [15:36]
jonnybsuper, 12 looking fone so far
also fine :)
6 definitely runs the quickest!
tiki-12.5.tar.bz2 also fine
nelsonko: i need to go out for a little while, but when i get back (30/40 mins) i'll test 14 and then upload them all to sf.net and do a mail to the devlist (only so far) - sound ok?
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nelsonkook - can you help create the release notes pages? (the README file points to them) [15:40]
jonnybok, will do
jonnyb has never read the readme
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nelsonkoShould I be doing a more broad announcement this afternoon my time?
btw I get PHP Fatal error: Class 'lessc' not found in /home/workspace/releases/release_14/14.x/lib/core/Tiki/Composer/BootstrapCompiler.php on line 20 at the endwhen running composer, does not seem to matter though
for tiki14
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jonnybi thought we should get a little feedback from the devs - having more of the trballs testing would be good
also to make sure they arrive on sf.net ok etc
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nelsonkoI have to run it twice
then it disappears
ok - I will check with the team before publishing anything broader them
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jonnybyes, i was saying yesterday there's a pre-update script set which uses some of the files added by composer, so it's bound to fail first time
i don't see 14.2 in tikipack yet - still working on it? (i guess)
should go now, see you later or tomorrow - thanks for all this nelsonko, it's been a biggie! :)
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Tiki-KGB03nkoth r57246 10branches/14.x/lang/ 10(52 files in 52 dirs) * [REL] Update language.php files for 14.2
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03nkoth r57248 03branches/14.x/db/tiki-secdb_14.2_mysql.sql * [REL] SecDB for 14.2
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r57250 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Composer/BootstrapCompiler.php
[FIX] composer: Test for lessc class before using it in the mysterious BootstrapCompiler class (does anyone know what this is supposed to do?)
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[FIX] composer: Lock file changes only having run update with --no-dev specified, might help?
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r57252 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Composer/CleanVendors.php
[FIX] composer: html5shiv has stopped adding loads of extra unnecessary dependents so no need to remove /components any more.
We continue to delete vendors/components so we remain in control over the version so jquery and bootstrap.
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jonnybpolom Jyhem - good lunch? ;) [18:17]
Jyhemyes, very good, couple other stuff with teaching my parents about their new smartphone :-D [18:18]
jonnybha ha, well done
looks like Nelson did all the releases eventually, and i uploaded them to sf.net
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amette_Good job, guys!
Amazing though how complicated a release has become with composer, huh!?
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jonnybhi amette_
we were unlucky they added a fatal bug just for us yesterday!
and the issues with php versions and platform etc was caused (imho) by people carelessly adding stuff that tiki doesn't use, just because they use it
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Jyhemhi amette_ : there are 3 new geocaches right inside ULB campus :-) [18:32]
jonnybbut then that's a problem all over tiki ;) [18:32]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: New releases, woo! (please test) - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58082
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amette_ok, so next release should be better again, I gather from that
jonnyb : wouldn't some kind of Continuous Integration help with that..? Like Jenkins packaging a release after each commit!?
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jonnybnext release is always better :D
yes, basically
changi had that set up in the old days i believe, probably on the ovh server
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amette_Jyhem : ULB? Brussel, I guess..?! I'm not there sadly. :-/ But wishing you lots of fun!
jonnyb : hehe, then it never gets worse, sounds good ;)
Yep, if that Jenkins already did that... I need to look into it...
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jonnybit always takes ages though it seems, there's always something [18:43]
amette_Yeah, we should be able to release within an hour at any point in time. [18:44]
JyhemOh, you won't ? :-( Too bad, I was just about to point out the placement of our stand: https://fosdem.org/2016/stands/
Seemingly right beside Jenkins
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amette_oh, yeah, that would be great. *sigh*
But I can't afford to come. My budget is too tight right now.
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: New releases, woo! (please test) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58082
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amette_Oh, I see, I was listed as confirmed further down the page... I only looked at the first "Committed" list before, sorry. [18:49]
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amette_Ehm... hang on... I might come after all... I just found a flight for 17,94€.. o.O :) [18:52]
jonnybbargain amette_ i'll buy you a beer! :D [18:54]
amette_How much is entry to FosDem? [18:54]
jonnyb(zero presumably ;) )
it's all free i think
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amette_ok, cool, that helps a lot :) [18:55]
jonnybat least it was last year (wasn't it Jyhem) [18:55]
JyhemIt's all Free and free :) [18:55]
amette_Jyhem : ok, that's really good then! :)
Jyhem : yoou stay one night longer in another place then?
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Jyhemalso, we stay at a flat, so we might slip some supplementary person at no extra fee, I guess [18:58]
jonnybisn't there one of these cheap fast european trains there we hear so much about? [18:58]
amette_None of those trains can beat Ryanair, I'm afraid. [18:58]
jonnybyes, i think the tikihouse is on a pay as you can basic
good old Ryanair
basic/basis
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Jyhemcan't beat 18€ with a train which goes through nearly all germany
No, I don't think I stay 1 night extra
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jonnybstrange isn't it - how come flying is cheaper than flying... can't be right [18:59]
Jyhemwe have the place for 5 nights and I leave the following day
very strange jonnyb, I've wondered about it also
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jonnybodd thing is people that run airoplanes make money too... [19:01]
amette_right... the table on the wiki page says "the night that starts tuesday the second", so the last day is Wednesday the 3rd [19:01]
jonnybthat's good cos my flight home is on the 3rd [19:02]
JyhemI've read studies saying that on the whole, through history, commercial transport has not been a beneficiary thing. Some make money, a lot lose/lost money [19:03]
amette_ok, let me see... returning wednesday the 34d doesn't cost a cent more, w00p :) [19:03]
JyhemBut I have not checked the calculations [19:03]
amette_And you guys arrive on 29th, right? [19:15]
Jyhemyes :) [19:16]
amette_alright :)
booked :)
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JyhemAnd the place is right near Fosdem, so no need for organizing car pools in the morning [19:17]
amette_18,34€ - that's an offer I can't refuse, even without a horse's head ;)
Awesome, good job!
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JyhemIt mght make it harder to meet the other people at the bars in the evening, but that's easy: we are fully awake on evenings :) [19:19]
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amette_hehe, sounds like a plan *g*
This makes me really happy, guys! Just an hour ago I didn't imagine going to Brussels and now we'll soon meet again. :)
I should check caches around the places we are! :P
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JyhemI already did :)
and stored them
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amette_can you export the list somehow? [19:28]
Jyhemnot really in a practical way I know...
and there's only 5-6 of them
You might want to find an offline map for Brussels
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amette_Yeah, offline map is a good idea. [19:40]
Jyhemwe need to discuss airplane fares. I see I paid 174€ :-(
(not 17.4)
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amette_well, it was 18,34 in the end... but still...
... on the other hand I think that only Ryanair can do this... any other airline was muuuch more expensive here, too.
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Jyhemhahaha, my first attempt started at 127.57€ and it was 223.36€ at the end :-(
so I was rather happy with the 174€ until 1 hour ago :-D
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amette_still ok, isn't it?!
223.36 is worse ;)
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Jyhemexactly :) [19:44]
amette_:) [19:44]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r57253 10trunk/ 10templates/cookie_consent.tpl 10lib/setup/javascript.php
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