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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r58506 10trunk/templates 10trunk
[MRG] Automatic merge, branches/15.x 58490 to 58504
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jonnybhi chibaguy [12:44]
xavi_hi jonnyb and chibaguy [12:46]
jonnybhi xavi_ [12:48]
chibaguyhi jonnyb and xavi_ [12:51]
jonnybHi Xavi, also looking at https://dev.tiki.org/item5920...
Interesting idea it could be due to the zend engine - I seem to have "Zend Engine v3.0.0" locally (now on php7)
but sendmail works on all version of php for me 		[12:52]
xavi_I switched back to php 5.6 on an upgraded Ubuntu 16.04 [12:54]
jonnyband it works now? (on ZE 2.6?) [12:54]
xavi_and no sendmail nor smtp sending [12:54]
jonnybby the way, when it doesn't work (testing using admin/general page) does it work ok in the test in the installer? [12:55]
xavi_on that upgraded laptop. reproduced in another upgraded laptop to ubuntu 16.06
didn't try. I'll try right now 		[12:55]
jonnybmy client with this issue finds the installer one works ok, but not the admin/general or other notifications [12:55]
xavi_nope, but at least the installer provides hints... check sendmail_path in php.ini, etc.
I'll check that 		[12:57]
jonnybsomewhat grasping at straws, this bug might be related https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=65590
it suggests disabling opcache.fast_shutdown in php.ini - might be worth trying? 		[12:57]
xavi_mmmm, weird, in my case, it seems I didn't have sendmail
but using smtp seemed to fail also for me 		[13:00]
jonnybwell that would slow it down a bit :) [13:00]
luciashpolom [13:03]
jonnybpolom luciash [13:03]
luciashjonnyb: I use md- because I saw sometimes the desktop layout did not fit even on some laptops with 1024px resolution, but maybe you are right that sm- is better... I will try from now on ;)
jonnyb: I agree that specifying sm or md would be more flexible in the plugin alias too 		[13:04]
jonnybsometimes i've seen both used on the same layout to have different breakpoints / column layouts for different screens [13:06]
luciashyep
that would require some trickery 		[13:06]
chibaguyI don't know your context, but a while back I was thinking that maybe layouts should be using sm- more and md- not so much. [13:11]
luciashI guess adding them all and then having empty values for not needed ones could work too (should not hurt having xs- sm-3 md-6 lg- e.g.)
chibaguy: yep, that is what jonny suggested to me
chibaguy: I was using md- all the time
lunch time, bbl 		[13:11]
chibaguyBut Bootstrap grid examples shows md- in the basic layout. I think that's the influence on me. [13:12]
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jonnybfor me i usually find sm is better for simple 2 or 3 column layouts as those work fine on my tablet, and using md means the tablet view looks all weird and fullwidth on everything [13:14]
chibaguyYeah, IIRC that was my impression too. BTW, Bootstrap 4 adds another breakpoint, but I don't recall where exactly. [13:15]
jonnybhmmm, interesting... [13:15]
chibaguyExtra small
<544px Small
≥544px Medium
≥768px Large
≥992px Extra large
≥1200px
(oops, ratchet each label up one px value) 		[13:16]
jonnybthought it looked odd :) is this for BS 4? [13:17]
chibaguyyes
http://v4-alpha.getbootstrap.com/layout/grid/
Currently... Extra small devices Phones (<768px) Small devices Tablets (≥768px) Medium devices Desktops (≥992px) Large devices Desktops (≥1200px)
So the 544px breakpoint is new, looks like. "We’ve added a new grid tier to better target mobile devices" 		[13:17]
jonnybi guess some phones are getting such high resolution that < 544px lets you target old phones (like mine ;) ) [13:28]
chibaguy:) [13:29]
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jonnybneed to go for a while, bbl
hi and bye fabricius :) 		[13:35]
Jyhempolom [13:36]
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chibaguyHi Jyhem and fabricius [13:36]
fabriciushi chibaguy
and hi Jyhem 		[13:37]
JyhemI saw this: [01/05/2016 22:13] <tikizorro> hi Everyone, quick question: what's the reasonable timeframe for the Tiki website admins to accept new user registration? I think mine was sent ~2 weeks ago, no response caught on my radar.
but I find no "zorro" in tiki.org's user base 		[13:39]
chibaguyNo idea. I wonder if he registered with a different name.
But I don't really know how the registration process works except that I thought fabricius was manually OKing people. 		[13:44]
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Jyhemhi jonnyb [15:10]
jonnybhi Jyhem - how are you? [15:11]
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jonnyb...and polom nelsonko [15:11]
Jyhemchibaguy, luciash: I'm looking at layout options for a customer of mine. It seems the have an option for fixed-width with a fixed value, but no bootstrap-style fixed-width
jonnyb: having fun making tiki sites nice :)
s/nice/look nice/ 		[15:12]
jonnybyes, i was seeing even tiki.org is looking quite handsome now - pages like https://tiki.org/Demo are really quite impressive these days (thanks to chibaguy and gezza) [15:15]
Jyhemhttp://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-intro says « Rows must be placed within a .container (fixed-width) or .container-fluid (full-width) for proper alignment and padding. » but we kill this with our tiki_base.css:
body:not(.fixed_width) .container {
padding-left: 15px;
padding-right: 15px;
width: auto;
}
jonnyb: yes, I really enjoy it and I get nice feedback :-D 		[15:15]
jonnybtiki-pagehistory.php is so broken though, how can it have got into such a state in 15.x? totally unusable imho [15:16]
Jyhemtiki-pagehistory.php works fine for me [15:19]
chibaguyJyhem, if you turn off fixed-width, then you get the full-width page. The body:not(.fixed_width) .container is to provide 15px side padding, essentially the same as using a .container-fluid class in place of .container.
So content doesn't hit the side margins.
(If I understand your comment.) 		[15:20]
JyhemYou do understand my comment. [15:22]
chibaguyI'm not sure what the problem is, then. [15:23]
JyhemMy point is, I'd like to reproduce the advertised behaviour of .container without emulating the behaviour of .container-fluid [15:23]
chibaguyAh, sorry, I have to eat while the noodles are hot. Will be back shortly. [15:24]
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JyhemRight now, they use centered width: 80% as they did before bootstrap. So obviously when screens become all small, this is a horrible waste of space. I suggested they just center #middle and let bootstrap control the white space in margins
chibaguy: no hurry. Enjoy your hot noodles :)
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chibaguy: I got to reproduce the expected behaviour by setting "fixed width" with an empty "Layout width" value [15:43]
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chibaguyBack. Yep, the noodles get soggy/wet if they sit too long. ;-)
Jyhem, there are media queries to specify the container width depending on the display size.
Hmm, I'm not sure I'm understanding or replying appropriately. 		[15:45]
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JyhemI guess I'm just wondering why we don't have a choice between .container and .container-fluid instead of twisting .container to behave like .container-fluid
The more people understand bootstrap, the more people will find our way confusing 		[15:58]
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New Forum Posts: "index needs rebuilding" after brand new tiki install & first login? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59462
New Forum Posts: Group Selection Advice - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59456
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Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5920
Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5921 		[17:12]
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Jyhem, I think we didn't consider the need to use .container-fluid, at first. Then later we realized we needed the side padding. Then it was easier to make a CSS rule than to add switches in the .tpl files.
But you have a good point. It's something to re-consider. 		[17:51]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r58508 10branches/ 1015.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.pagination_links.php 1015.x/templates/tiki-pagehistory.tpl 1015.x/tiki-pagehistory.php
Revert r49450: [ENH] Unwanted parameters are removed from tiki-pagehistory.php URL($_GET) to avoid long & ugly url Ref:http://dev.tiki.org/item4943
While this commit did make the urls shorter it was by using a POST method (sometimes) which means you couldn't share the diff url as requested in the wish item.
I will find another way to shorten the urls once other bugs are fixed... (thanks marclaporte) 		[19:14]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: "index needs rebuilding" after brand new tiki install & first login? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59462
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r58509 10branches/15.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.query.php
[FIX] php7: It seems the $_GET and $_POST arrays get assigned by reference rather than copied now, so make an explicit copy in a new array to prevent the original request vars being modified here (for instance, this was causing tiki-pagehistory.php pagination to fail badly) 		[19:42]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: "index needs rebuilding" after brand new tiki install & first login? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59462
New Forum Posts: Group Selection Advice - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59456
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r58510 10branches/15.x/templates/tiki-pagehistory.tpl * [FIX] pagehistory: Show pagination checkbox when not paginating [19:46]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r58511 10branches/ 1015.x/templates/tiki-pagehistory.tpl 1015.x/tiki-pagehistory.php
[FIX] pagehistory: Remove some of the unnecessary parameters from the GET request and use the session instead where needed (TODO more) 		[20:26]
03jonnybradley r58512 10branches/ 1015.x/templates/tiki-pagehistory.tpl 1015.x/tiki-pagehistory.php * [FIX] pagehistory: Fixes for show edit session mode (show_all_versions=n)
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New Forum Posts: "index needs rebuilding" after brand new tiki install & first login? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59462
New Forum Posts: Group Selection Advice - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=59456
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