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[11:45] Jyhem polom
[11:45] jonnyb polomjyhem
[11:46] Jyhem So… I may have freed myself. When is the roundtable?
[11:46] jonnyb good question :)
[11:47] Jyhem apart from "not tonight"
[11:47] jonnyb i was sort of expecting Bernard to pick a date...
[11:47] jonnyb 13:00 utc has most votes i think
[11:48] Jyhem so in about 3 hours
[11:48] jonnyb yup, i guess i'll have to do a mail...
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[12:53] chibaguy polom
[12:54] jonnyb hi chibaguy
[12:54] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[12:55] jonnyb nice early roundtable meeting today, should make a change ay!?
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[12:56] chibaguy yes, a nice change. :-)
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[13:34] chibaguy Does anybody know anything about a user at tiki.org with username "admin"?
[13:34] chibaguy The user's user info says Last login:
[13:34] chibaguy Thu 30 Oct 2003 01:27 CET
[13:34] chibaguy but this user posted a comment on a wiki page in the last day or so.
[13:35] chibaguy Shouldn't this name be changed or the account removed, or both?
[13:35] chibaguy And shouldn't "admin" be a reserved term, regarding usernames?
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[14:46] Bsfez polom
[14:46] Bsfez I understood we meet on live.tiki.org ?
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[14:58] jonnyb hi all
[14:58] nelsonko hello
[14:58] jonnyb meeting at https://live.tiki.org now! :)
[14:59] jonnyb hi nelsonko
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[16:53] xavi polom
[16:53] jonnyb pompom xavi
[16:53] xavi something weird is going on in tiki.org community site indeed....
[16:53] jonnyb btw, how did you get that smiley face next to your status on BBB?
[16:53] xavi https://tiki.org/blogs shows no blogs to me when I'm logged in as admin, while as plain registrered user, shows 2 blogs to me
[16:54] xavi smiley: because I was smiling ;-)
[16:55] xavi http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/overview/overview.html#emote-icons
[16:55] jonnyb :D
[16:55] jonnyb aha, i didn't click that because i didn't want to put my hand up ;)
[16:56] xavi I was reviewing the bbb 1.0 docs, and I found that :-)
[16:56] xavi I also tried (silently) the live polling module, but it seemed that nobody noticed :-)
[16:56] jonnyb i'm also seeing odd 500 errors on tiki.org
[17:01] xavi mmmm, some issue with perspectives probably, as you suggested in the trm (bbb) meeting
[17:02] jonnyb something seems to be doing and invalid search for forums
[17:02] xavi now I see as admin also the site in redish color (no more in blueish as in the homepage) and modules showed up, as well as the whole list of blogs
[17:14] Bsfez polom
[17:14] xavi hi Bernard
[17:14] Bsfez Hey Xavi
[17:14] jonnyb pompom
[17:14] Bsfez I need an englishman :)
[17:14] Bsfez {tr}Published At:{/tr} {$listpages[ix].publishDate|tiki_short_datetime}
[17:15] Bsfez to be changed to :
[17:15] Bsfez {tr}Published{/tr} {$listpages[ix].publishDate|tiki_short_datetime}
[17:15] Bsfez Is nive for timeago, not for the other cases
[17:15] Bsfez nice
[17:15] Bsfez Am I wrong ?
[17:16] jonnyb i think it's ok, like: "Published 19th May 2016" makes sense for me
[17:17] Bsfez okido :)
[17:19] Bsfez And another one for a spanishman
[17:19] Bsfez :D :D :D
[17:19] Bsfez that knows more than me about structures
[17:19] Bsfez at https://tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=Branding%20and%20Marketing%20Creative%20Brief%202016&page_ref_id=1013
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[17:20] Bsfez I would like a toc (table of content)
[17:20] Bsfez {toc maxdepth="2,3" shownum="0"} doesn't work...
[17:24] chibaguy xavi: I saw "yes" and "no" buttons at the screen bottom in BBB, and wondered how they appeared. :-)
[17:24] xavi yes, it was me :-)
[17:25] xavi Bsfez: ok, there I go to have a look....
[17:25] chibaguy Bsfez, yes, just {tr}Published{/tr} is good.
[17:26] chibaguy (I agree with the Englishman jonnyb.)
[17:26] jonnyb thanks chibaguy, i was mainly agreeing with you :)
[17:26] chibaguy :)
[17:27] jonnyb by the way, i'm updating the wishes search on dev a bit and wondering how to get a submit button to be "attached" onto the end of the text input?
[17:27] xavi @chibaguy: http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/overview/overview.html#pre-configured-choices
[17:28] chibaguy I see, thanks.
[17:28] xavi @ Bsfez: there are no child pages, that's why nothing is shown for that {toc}
[17:29] xavi maybe you meant just {maketoc} for that single page?
[17:29] * xavi confused
[17:35] RadoS xavi, moin, I checked profiles, couldn't find one matching my needs. Looking at "structures", I haven't figured out how to create new empty pages from existing dead-links to be put automatically into a structure (and with respective settings into its category), any clues what I might be missing? I added category permission to edit structures and created one as admin for templ:_:proj1 (group templ:_:proj1, category templ:_:proj1).
[17:36] RadoS What steps do you need to make to create a new page auto-added to an existing structure?
[17:44] jonnyb RadoS: sorry, not sure - maybe you could make a custom module to simulate the "add page" form at the top of a structure page?
[17:46] xavi RadoS: edit the structure to add pre-existing pages to the structure
[17:47] Bsfez yes just maketoc
[17:48] xavi RadoS: play with the profile "structured master documents" first, I would say? it will help you learn the basics, maybe?
[17:49] Bsfez tks Xavi ! :)
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[17:54] RadoS xavi, jonnyb, in docs/Structure it says "with permissions above you can have new subpages be created and automatically added to structure and its category"... I thought it would work without extras...
[17:55] jonnyb if you use the form at the top of the page it will do that, yes
[17:55] xavi RadoS: that works for new pages, as far as I know. For pre-existing pages, there was a regression bug introduced a while back which prevent them from being added to the structure (as I say, if that page existed already)
[17:56] xavi annoying bug in production sites such as doc.t.o and others
[17:58] xavi for the record: https://dev.tiki.org/item5464
[17:58] xavi "Add existing pages to structures at page edition time through the structures header box" (introduced at some point in 2014)
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[18:28] RadoS jonnyb, for the button shown in the docs I need to add a module?
[18:29] RadoS xavi, I prefer to have it work with new pages rather than existing ones, because the users shall fill their space all by themselves, no pre-work.
[18:29] jonnyb RadoS: which button in which docs?
[18:29] xavi RadoS: no need for a module. Play with that profile, please, so that you get the basics from yourself
[18:30] RadoS jonnyb, http://doc.tiki.org/Structures
[18:30] xavi RadoS: Thanks for your undestanding
[18:30] RadoS xavi, well...
[18:31] RadoS I how do you mean "look": apply it or read the profile-page?
[18:31] xavi and help fixing the documentation, whenever you find something wrong, etc
[18:31] xavi see https://profiles.tiki.org
[18:32] xavi see also: https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Profiles&structure=Tiki%20Reference%20Guide
[18:32] xavi thks
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[18:39] RadoS xavi, in "profile" admin page what shall I type in the "Profile name" field (where is has "Find..." preset)? When I enter "structure" it doesn't find anything (this being v15.x).
[18:41] xavi yes, as you can see, usability is something which has lots of room for improvement in Tiki. You can get it easily through the PRofiles Wizard: https://doc.tiki.org/Profiles+Wizard#Demo_of_Other_Interesting_Use_Cases
[18:42] xavi Profiles Wizard? yes, one of those buttons for Wizards that you were probably presented when you logged in admin when you first installed tiki (old fashioned wizard, but expected to help new tiki site admins) to get things done when they are learning how to take profit of the basic features, etc.
[18:44] RadoS xavi, the wizards opens the profiles page with auto-filled "Structured Master Documents", yet when I hit "find" nothing happens... what should have happened?
[18:45] xavi scroll down below, and there should be a button to "apply profile"
[18:45] RadoS Hmm, maybe php needs a proxy-config?
[18:45] xavi jonnyb , chibaguy etc : ^usability issue I?ve been reporting for months
[18:46] xavi RadoS: yes, if you are behind a firewall, you need to add the info of your proxy
[18:46] xavi yu can do so in the installer (in Tiki 15), or search for "proxy" in the admin panels
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[18:46] xavi s/admin panels/control panels
[18:47] RadoS added proxy, still no "apply" button.
[18:48] RadoS Guess I'm stuck here regarding profiles.
[18:49] xavi another usability issue: you need to refresh the profiles list
[18:49] xavi which is hidden (not your fault)
[18:50] xavi yes, I know that feeling of willing to do easy things and finding it (as a newcomer) extremely complicated the first time
[18:50] RadoS xavi, ahh, much better.
[18:51] xavi if you code, you could add some warning in that php script to tell you : "if you are behind a firewall, add the proxy info here (link) to make profiles work"
[18:51] xavi or something like that
[18:51] xavi s/php script/tpl file corresponding to that php script
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[18:55] RadoS xavi, when changing auth-type from "tiki" to "tiki + ldap" you need to clean the tiki-system cache, too.
[18:56] xavi please RadoS, help the community by means of improving the documentation pages with your findings, if you didn't find that info in whatever pages you looked for it in (thanks)
[18:59] RadoS You mean on the docs webserver or in the code?
[19:00] xavi both, if you can
[19:00] xavi proxy info: code?, ldap auth: doc site?
[19:00] xavi or wherever you consider that it's best
[19:01] xavi see: https://tiki.org/model
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[19:10] RadoS Hmm, I thought I read somewhere tikiwiki has section editing, but the docs-wiki doesn't provide it?
[19:10] xavi RadoS: welcome to Tiki. Maybe the doc page needs update?
[19:11] xavi you can find it in some of the https://doc.tiki.org/Profiles+Admin pages
[19:15] RadoS xavi, not sure where to put the hint with the proxy for profiles.
[19:27] xavi wherever you would have expected to find it? maybe at the interface /control Panel for Profiles, somewhere there where it would have been helpful for you?
[19:27] xavi ^ RadoS
[19:39] RadoS There you go.
[19:39] * RadoS wonders why updates are so slow... server overloaded?
[19:42] xavi c u (off for today)
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[19:50] RadoS Hmm, as admin I want to change permissions, but they don
[19:51] RadoS 't get saved/ accepted anymore ... cleared cache already... what's wrong?
[19:51] RadoS else can be wrong. ;)
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