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[13:10] amette__ polom
[13:10] amette__ quick question: it's impossible to install a Tiki 12 from SVN due to broken externals like jquery.s5 and such!? Any way around this or should I change to a tarball for this?
[13:13] amette__ oh, that's a Tiki 9 I'm talking about... meant to use it as a stepping stone on my way to Tiki 12.
[13:26] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r59121 10trunk/ 10templates/trackerinput/files.tpl 10lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php
[13:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Usability WYSIWYCA: don't show the button to Browse files in a tracker input form to users in groups without the perm to view the file gallery (e.g. anonymous in uses cases in which you only want them to upload a file, but not viewing the contents of the file gallery). Thanks bsfez and marclaporte.
[13:26] xavi_ polom. sorry amette__, no idea. use tarball 9.x from sf instead?
[13:27] jonnyb pomopm
[13:27] amette__ hi xavi_, thanks for coming back to me! I'm now trying to do a direct upgrade from 6 to 12... I mean: what could possibly go wrong!? ;)
[13:27] amette__ heya jonnyb :)
[13:28] xavi_ yes, that's what I would do: 6->12
[13:28] xavi_ hi jonnyb
[13:28] amette__ xavi_: k, cool!
[13:28] jonnyb hi amette__, xavi_and all... 6 to 12 should be ok i think
[13:28] amette__ nice, cheers
[13:29] amette__ 12 checks out cleanly from svn *thumbsup*
[13:30] amette__ (well, yes, it should, since it's still supported, but I felt the need to say it now ;) )
[13:32] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r59122 10branches/ 1015.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php 1015.x 1015.x/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl 1015.x/templates
[13:32] Tiki-KGB [bp/r59121][FIX]Usability WYSIWYCA: don't show the button to Browse files in a tracker input form to users in groups without the perm to view the file gallery (e.g. anonymous in uses cases in which you only want them to upload a file, but not viewing the contents of the file gallery). Thanks bsfez and marclaporte.
[13:32] amette__ db upgrade went smoothly, too... looks almost good... but:
[13:33] amette__ What went wrong, when after an upgrade I have > in my wiki pages instead of > ?
[13:33] xavi_ were you using utf8 in your 6.x db or latin* or similar?
[13:34] xavi_ sorry, just a quick guess, maybe it has nothing to do with your issue.
[13:34] * xavi_ back to urgent stuff to finish today
[13:34] amette__ yeah, it doesn't really feel like a character encoding issue... but I'll still check that first, good point
[13:35] jonnyb i think the is_html thing pre tiki 12 was all wrong, you probably need to set allow html in each page?
[13:36] amette__ oh, ok, that makes kiindssense
[13:36] amette__ kinda sense even
[13:36] amette__ (db is all utf-8 btw as you would expect from me)
[13:36] jonnyb :)
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[13:39] amette__ hmmm... I think this is going into the right direction, but not really the issue.. changing to "Allow HTML" on a per page basis didn't fix it... and it's not HTML actually... the problematic stuff looks like this: {GROUP(groups=>Members)}
[13:41] jonnyb ew, right - that rings a bell...
[13:42] amette__ ok, sounds promising... :)
[13:42] jonnyb in the 6 data is was just groups=>Members i guess?
[13:42] amette__ yup
[13:44] jonnyb hmmmm, think that was the tiki 9.0 mess... "someone" rebuilt the parser during the release process, it was a nightmare (i was away on holiday ;) )
[13:44] amette__ right, sounds like the Tiki way :P
[13:44] jonnyb but i think the initial problem was my fault (and it should have been rolled back and done properly)
[13:45] amette__ Further down in the same page someone created a list with "->" as bullet points... those are broken in the same way.
[13:45] amette__ so what's the fix? Edit all the pages, search, replace and save?
[13:45] jonnyb think i would do a global replace in the database to replace => with just = in the wiki page data column, probably in the exported text dump
[13:45] jonnyb then upgrade again
[13:46] amette__ ah, ok... the plugins don't need the greater than any more? can be just an equals sign?
[13:55] jonnyb i think the => syntax stopped being needed around tiki 2 or 3 :)
[13:56] amette__ right.... old habits die hard, I guess *g*
[13:56] jonnyb :D
[14:13] RadoS I'm setting up a clean (naked) system with 15.2, when calling the main page, it produces: Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /data/wiki-test/tiki-15.2/vendor/symfony/config/Symfony/Component/Config/Util/XmlUtils.php:52
[14:14] RadoS I guess I miss some php modules/ libs, but no clue which one/s.
[14:14] * RadoS sitting on ubuntu.
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[14:18] RadoS Uhm... ubuntu16 is using php7, does 15.2 work with that?
[14:20] jonnyb hi RadoS
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[14:20] jonnyb https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Class+'DOMDocument'+not+found&ia=qa
[14:22] jonnyb RadoS: so you need to install the php5-dom module in your tiki
[14:22] jonnyb (doesn't tiki-check check for this?)
[14:23] RadoS jonnyb, it doesn't even startup!
[14:23] RadoS That's what I get when I access the / page.
[14:24] jonnyb what does tiki-check.php say?
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[14:31] RadoS jonnyb, dom	bad	Not available	This extension is needed for many features such as:
[14:31] RadoS bigbluebutton, machine translation, SCORM & meta-data in file galleries, wiki importers, custom search, Kaltura and others.
[14:32] jonnyb yes, just changing that message - it is need to core features now (since about tiki 12 i think)
[14:34] RadoS Somehow I had made it work on ubu14, but I killed that machine before starting over (assuming it would works seamless as before).
[14:37] * RadoS re-installing ubu14...
[14:38] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r59123 10trunk/tiki-check.php
[14:38] Tiki-KGB [FIX] tiki-check: The dom extension is required for Tiki since the dependency injection system was implemented (i think in Tiki 13?).
[14:38] Tiki-KGB Tiki won't work without it now - thanks RadoS
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[17:05] xavi_ mmm, question about local perms
[17:06] xavi_ how can I check for object perms on a file gallery within a template?
[17:06] xavi_ using $tiki_p_view_file_gallery I seem to be affected by global perms only, even if the local file gallery has no perm granted for that user group
[17:07] xavi_ this is to improve r59122
[17:10] jonnyb hi xavi_
[17:11] jonnyb i was looking at that one this morning, you can't really do it inside the tpl, needs to be in the php...
[17:11] xavi_ ok, in the tpl works for the global perms, then, right?
[17:11] jonnyb i have a fix but then elFinder doesn't load, if global view is denied, so i got stuck and have to get to other stuff
[17:11] jonnyb er, sometimes :)
[17:12] jonnyb if it's a filegal page then it will be theat gallery's perms, but in a tracker field it uses globals for that
[17:12] xavi_ oh, ok. May I say let's leave as-is? I modified the site for the client so that view perm is not granted to anonymous (undesired anyway )
[17:13] jonnyb if i can fix the elfinder bit i'll commit, but won't be today i think
[17:13] xavi_ and tracker works as expected right now for anons (button to "Browse files" is not displayed from the tracker field Files)
[17:13] jonnyb better than nothing as it is now i guess
[17:14] xavi_ yep, my commit improved the thing a bit (enough for the production site)
[17:14] RadoS jonnyb, my issues from before originated in apache2 misconfig, which didn't break apache-server from starting but made it misbehave.
[17:14] xavi_ may I say that don't invest too much time on this (if any more)? There are plenty of wonderful things to be developed (besides fixes) out there... you know ;-)
[17:15] * RadoS had bad "Listen ..." value.
[17:15] Jyhem_laptop polom
[17:15] jonnyb hi all
[17:15] xavi_ hi Jyhem_laptop
[17:16] Jyhem_laptop I just saw some "jacascript detection failed, try again" pop-up while doing reinstalls.
[17:16] xavi_ btw, question for you Jyhem_laptop: if you plan to use PluginR in Tiki15+, there is some visual glitch needing fixing...
[17:16] Jyhem_laptop Very nice !
[17:16] jonnyb xavi_: i bet you'll want it fixing one day, probably in a hurry! :)
[17:16] Jyhem_laptop haha, jonnyb knows xavi_ :-D
[17:16] jonnyb coo, glad it worked Jyhem_laptop
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[17:17] xavi_ jonnyb: :-) that might be the case, you know how Life is at times... even if I foresee a low probability for that one ;-)
[17:17] Jyhem_laptop xavi_: thanks for the tip, but there is no sign of wikispiral.org upgrading yet :-(
[17:17] xavi_ ok :-)
[17:18] xavi_ btw, jonnyb, plugin chartjs didn't work at all for me in trunk, so I'd better move to the PluginR way for that common client of us....
[17:18] * Jyhem_laptop investigating some footnote regression :-(
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[17:36] RadoS With a new/ fresh installation of v15.2 and creating new databases automatically by the installation routing, the server check reports: character_set_server latin1 ugly
[17:36] RadoS Why isn't this set to a sane value by the installer?
[17:37] RadoS Also: collation_server latin1_swedish_ci ugly
[17:37] jonnyb good question RadoS - i thought i used to do that
[17:37] jonnyb latin1_swedish_ci is the default for mysql sadly
[17:43] Jyhem_laptop RadoS: character_set_server is the value set at the OS level. Tiki is not supposed to change this, as it might break aother applications on the same server
[17:43] Jyhem_laptop Plus, Tiki installer would need root permissions
[17:44] Jyhem_laptop The real value Tiki uses is the one in the second column, which is hopefully not latin1
[17:46] jonnyb ah, good point Jyhem_laptop, i thought RadoS said the database created was latin, which would be wrong
[17:48] Jyhem_laptop sorry, I meant not second column. I meant I believe the _server values are not really used, so presumably your Tiki is still fully utf8
[17:48] Jyhem_laptop I feel he speaks of tiki-check.php
[17:49] Jyhem_laptop I also have character_set_server 	latin1 	ugly  on my server. It's no problem
[17:49] Jyhem_laptop Just our opinion on mysql's dumb default
[17:50] jonnyb except if you create the databases yourself and forget to pick utf-8
[17:50] jonnyb :)
[17:50] Jyhem_laptop yes, but nobody ever do^H^H admits to having done that :)
[17:51] jonnyb :P
[17:52] Jyhem_laptop anyway, http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/53263 seems to have broken duplicate footnotes detection :-(
[17:53] Jyhem_laptop I might as well add sameId together with broken-by-design "sameas" option
[17:57] RadoS Jyhem_laptop, thanks for clarification, then the output is just a bit irritating/ worrying. ;)
[17:59] Jyhem_laptop RadoS: yes, ugly means aestetically disturbing. It is not always a sign of something actually buggy
[18:01] Jyhem_laptop "bad" is the ones you need to fix
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[18:40] Jyhem_laptop I thought someone asked about grouping footnotes in separate footnoteareas but I can't find it in the dev list. Was it on IRC?
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[19:33] Jyhem_laptop ahhh, found it: https://tiki.org/forumthread51947
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[20:36] RadoS Jyhem_laptop, by chance you remember what in lib/usersslib.php had to be changed for the group-sync with LDAP/AD to work?
[20:36] RadoS I knew I've forgotten something not documented/ fixed yet.
[21:07] RadoS Anyway... I re-found "Ticket ID 5657", but that alone doesn't seem to help, I still get blank page when LDAP-Users want to login.
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[22:05] erika hello
[22:06] Guest30638 Hello I have some questions about Tikiwiki anybody here that might help me?
[22:10] Jyhem_laptop hello Guest30638 , it depends on the question, really :)
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